.NET CLR in the Firefox UA
Philip Chee
installing crapware) but someone sent us some feedback via our web
contact form and our PHP forwards the senders UA and today I saw this:
Browser Info: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011913 Firefox/3.0.6 (.NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR
1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR
3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
So not only does MS add to the UA string, it doesn't check and remove
previous versions. So eventually there will be a .netclr 4.0, 4.5, 5.0,
etc. I see no end to this and (for example in phpBB forums that expose
the posters UA) this exposes Firefox users to ridicule - or at least
embarrassment.
Phil
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timeless
> First let me say Yes I /know/ why this appears (microsoft silently
> installing crapware) but someone sent us some feedback via our web
> contact form and our PHP forwards the senders UA and today I saw this:
>
> Browser Info: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
> rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011913 Firefox/3.0.6 (.NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR
> 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR
> 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
>
> So not only does MS add to the UA string, it doesn't check and remove
> previous versions. So eventually there will be a .netclr 4.0, 4.5, 5.0,
> etc. I see no end to this and (for example in phpBB forums that expose
> the posters UA) this exposes Firefox users to ridicule - or at least
> embarrassment.
well, CLRs are like java, you get to collect as many incompatible
versions as you can.
so having 1.0, and 2.0, and 3.0 and 3.5 means you have those. If 1.1
really isn't compat w/ 1.0 (and it probably isn't), then you have it
too.
The two CLR 3.0's otoh seems like a valid bug. And you should be able
to complain to ms about it.
Sadly, fixing *that* doesn't help much. :)
Mike Beltzner
This (acknowledged and significant) issue is really more of a dev-apps-
firefox issue than a dev-planning issue. Let's please keep this list
clear for project planning issues and meeting announcements.
cheers,
mike
On 20-Feb-09, at 9:02 AM, timeless wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Philip Chee <phili...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> First let me say Yes I /know/ why this appears (microsoft silently
>> installing crapware) but someone sent us some feedback via our web
>> contact form and our PHP forwards the senders UA and today I saw
>> this:
>>
>> Browser Info: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
>> rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011913 Firefox/3.0.6 (.NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET
>> CLR
>> 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR
>> 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
>>
>> So not only does MS add to the UA string, it doesn't check and remove
>> previous versions. So eventually there will be a .netclr 4.0, 4.5,
>> 5.0,
>> etc. I see no end to this and (for example in phpBB forums that
>> expose
>> the posters UA) this exposes Firefox users to ridicule - or at least
>> embarrassment.
>
> well, CLRs are like java, you get to collect as many incompatible
> versions as you can.
>
> so having 1.0, and 2.0, and 3.0 and 3.5 means you have those. If 1.1
> really isn't compat w/ 1.0 (and it probably isn't), then you have it
> too.
>
> The two CLR 3.0's otoh seems like a valid bug. And you should be able
> to complain to ms about it.
>
> Sadly, fixing *that* doesn't help much. :)
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