Re: AccessFu.properties?

[Axel Hecht]

Hi Eitan, Alexander,

can you jump in here and help us out what the strings in AccessFu mean?

Thanks

Axel

On 18.04.12 08:16, Peter Chen wrote:
> Hi Axel and fellow localizers,
>
> I found with the landing of Bug 739498, the new added
> file dom/chrome/accessibility/AccessFu.properties[1]
> came with ~90 strings, but without description for the strings.
>
> Does anybody know how to deal with this file? Some of the strings are
> not easy to realize, especially for "grip".
>
>
> Peter
>
> [1]
> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/071ec7e17660/dom/locales/en-US/chrome/accessibility/AccessFu.properties

[flod]

Il 18/04/12 08.54, Axel Hecht ha scritto:

> Hi Eitan, Alexander,
> can you jump in here and help us out what the strings in AccessFu mean?

Strange, I didn't receive Peter's message.

Personally I think this file is a sort of glossary for UI elements (for
screen readers?), so "grip" should be that portion of the window you can
use to resize it. I used Microsoft's glossary[1] a lot as a reference,
not sure if that's available in your language.

Having said that, I'm not really sure about these strings:

* cycled: not sure how an element can be "cycled"
* outline: is this a generic "structure" or a specific UI element?
* flat equation: honestly no idea in this context

Francesco

[1] http://www.microsoft.com/Language/en-US/Default.aspx

[Peter Pin-Guang Chen]

2012/4/18 flod <fl...@lodolo.net>

> Il 18/04/12 08.54, Axel Hecht ha scritto:
>

> Hi Eitan, Alexander,
>> can you jump in here and help us out what the strings in AccessFu mean?
>>

> Strange, I didn't receive Peter's message.
>
>

I sent to dev-l10n using a wrong email address, sorry. :(
Just received Alexander's mail few minutes ago, will forward later.

> Personally I think this file is a sort of glossary for UI elements (for
> screen readers?), so "grip" should be that portion of the window you can
> use to resize it. I used Microsoft's glossary[1] a lot as a reference, not
> sure if that's available in your language.
>
> Having said that, I'm not really sure about these strings:
>
> * cycled: not sure how an element can be "cycled"
> * outline: is this a generic "structure" or a specific UI element?
> * flat equation: honestly no idea in this context
>
> Francesco
>

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[Peter Pin-Guang Chen]

Here comes the description for the file itself, and for "grip", "cycled".

Peter

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.a...@gmail.com>
Date: 2012/4/18
Subject: Re: AccessFu.properties?
To: Axel Hecht <l1...@mozilla.com>
Cc: Peter Chen <pete...@gmail.com>, ei...@monotonous.org

Hi, Axel. Those strings are used for speech generation, i.e are
> supposed to be pronounced by screen reader (current plans are android
> and b2g platforms).

First group of strings is widget names like button or menu bar.
> Second group of strings is the widget info like widget states
> ("checked", "not checked" in case of checkbox) or group position
> (there's a localization comment in the file for that).
> Third group of strings is text describing the invoked action of the
> widget. For example, if the user clicked a link (it has "jump" action)
> then he should hear "jumped", in case of button ("press" action) -
> "pressed".
> Hope, that makes things a little bit more clear.
> Thank you.
> Alex.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.a...@gmail.com>
Date: 2012/4/18
Subject: Re: AccessFu.properties?
To: Peter Chen <pete...@gmail.com>
Cc: Axel Hecht <l1...@mozilla.com>, ei...@monotonous.org

Hi, Peter.
> You can refer to nsIAccessibleRole to see widget roles descriptions.
> grip: Represents a special mouse pointer, which allows a user to
> manipulate user interface elements such as windows. For example, a
> user clicks and drags a sizing grip in the lower-right corner of a
> window to resize it.
> In case of grip you shouldn't really care about localization because
> this role (surprise!) is not used in Gecko.
> "cycled" is about XUL trees
> (https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XUL/treecol#a-cycler).
> Thank you.
> Alex.

[flod]

2012/4/18 Peter Pin-Guang Chen <pete...@mail.moztw.org>

> nsIAccessibleRole


Thanks,
I found everything I needed (outline and flat equation) here
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIAccessibleRole

Francesco