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Yu Rachel Zhang

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Sep 12, 2008, 4:32:26 AM9/12/08
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Hi Experts,

Would you please help?
I need to fix a translation issue for thunderbird.desktop on Solaris.
There are 13 languages' comments which need to be updated.
It would be great that you can help with the one in your native language
(or you know how to translate it).

Thanks a lot!
(It's a little urgent and answers are expected *by end of next week*.)


New English message is:
Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*

Old English message and 13 language translation (some translated message
seem not using plural like "emails", please confirm that) are here:
Comment[en]=Read emails, blogs and usenet newsgroups
Comment[cz]=C(tení pos(ty, blogu* a diskuzních skupin
Comment[de]=Lesen von E-Mails, Blogs und Newsgroup
Comment[es]=Leer correo electrónico, blogs y grupos de noticias de Usenet
Comment[fr]=Lire les e-mails, blogs et forums de discussion Usenet
Comment[it]=Leggi posta elettronica, blog e gruppi di discussione
Comment[ja]=??????????usenet ???????????
Comment[ko]=?? ??, ??? ? ??? ???? ??
Comment[pl]=Czytac' wiadomos'ci, blogi oraz grupy dyskusyjn
Comment[pt_BR]=Ler e-mails, blogs e fóruns de discussão da Usenet
Comment[ru]=?????? ?????, ???????? ?????? ? ????????? ????? usenet
Comment[sv]=Läs e-post, bloggar och usenet-diskussionsgrupper
Comment[zh_CN]=?????????? usenet ???
Comment[zh_TW]=??????????? Usenet ????

Regards,
Rachel

Gen Kanai

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Sep 12, 2008, 4:35:50 AM9/12/08
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On Sep 12, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Yu Rachel Zhang wrote:

> Would you please help?
> I need to fix a translation issue for thunderbird.desktop on Solaris.
> There are 13 languages' comments which need to be updated.
> It would be great that you can help with the one in your native
> language
> (or you know how to translate it).
>
> Thanks a lot!
> (It's a little urgent and answers are expected *by end of next week*.)
>
>
> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*

Rachel, the old ja did not come across (it was all "???")

Can you give us a little more information about where this text will
be? Is it in the software? Where in the software?

Gen


flod (Francesco Lodolo)

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Sep 12, 2008, 4:47:20 AM9/12/08
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> I need to fix a translation issue for thunderbird.desktop on Solaris.
> There are 13 languages' comments which need to be updated.
>
> Comment[it]=Leggi posta elettronica, blog e gruppi di discussione
Italian is ok (foreign words are invariant in Italian).

Francesco

João Miguel Neves

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Sep 12, 2008, 5:03:01 AM9/12/08
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Yu Rachel Zhang escreveu:

> Hi Experts,
>
> Would you please help?
> I need to fix a translation issue for thunderbird.desktop on Solaris.
> There are 13 languages' comments which need to be updated.
> It would be great that you can help with the one in your native language
> (or you know how to translate it).
>
> Thanks a lot!
> (It's a little urgent and answers are expected *by end of next week*.)
>
>
> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*
>
>
If you want to add pt-PT:
Comment[pt_PT]=Ler correio electrónico, blogs, grupos de notícias e agenda

Best regards,
João Miguel Neves

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Yu Rachel Zhang

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Sep 12, 2008, 5:05:15 AM9/12/08
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Sorry for confusion.
Send the old translation again in UTF-8.

Comment[en]=Read emails, blogs and usenet newsgroups

Comment[cz]=Čtení pošty, blogů a diskuzních skupin


Comment[de]=Lesen von E-Mails, Blogs und Newsgroup
Comment[es]=Leer correo electrónico, blogs y grupos de noticias de Usenet
Comment[fr]=Lire les e-mails, blogs et forums de discussion Usenet

Comment[it]=Leggi posta elettronica, blog e gruppi di discussione

Comment[ja]=電子メール、ブログ、usenet ニュースグループを読む
Comment[ko]=전자 메일, 블로그 및 유즈넷 뉴스그룹 읽기
Comment[pl]=Czytać wiadomości, blogi oraz grupy dyskusyjn


Comment[pt_BR]=Ler e-mails, blogs e fóruns de discussão da Usenet

Comment[ru]=Чтение почты, просмотр блогов и новостных групп usenet


Comment[sv]=Läs e-post, bloggar och usenet-diskussionsgrupper

Comment[zh_CN]=阅读电子邮件、博客和 usenet 新闻组
Comment[zh_TW]=讀取電子郵件、部落格和 Usenet 新聞群組

On 09/12/08 16:32, Yu Rachel Zhang wrote:
> Hi Experts,
>
> Would you please help?
> I need to fix a translation issue for thunderbird.desktop on Solaris.
> There are 13 languages' comments which need to be updated.
> It would be great that you can help with the one in your native language
> (or you know how to translate it).
>
> Thanks a lot!
> (It's a little urgent and answers are expected *by end of next week*.)
>
>
> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*
>

> Old English message and 13 language translation (some translated message
> seem not using plural like "emails", please confirm that) are here:
> Comment[en]=Read emails, blogs and usenet newsgroups
> Comment[cz]=C(tení pos(ty, blogu* a diskuzních skupin
> Comment[de]=Lesen von E-Mails, Blogs und Newsgroup
> Comment[es]=Leer correo electrónico, blogs y grupos de noticias de Usenet
> Comment[fr]=Lire les e-mails, blogs et forums de discussion Usenet

> Comment[it]=Leggi posta elettronica, blog e gruppi di discussione

> Comment[ja]=??????????usenet ???????????
> Comment[ko]=?? ??, ??? ? ??? ???? ??
> Comment[pl]=Czytac' wiadomos'ci, blogi oraz grupy dyskusyjn
> Comment[pt_BR]=Ler e-mails, blogs e fóruns de discussão da Usenet
> Comment[ru]=?????? ?????, ???????? ?????? ? ????????? ????? usenet
> Comment[sv]=Läs e-post, bloggar och usenet-diskussionsgrupper
> Comment[zh_CN]=?????????? usenet ???
> Comment[zh_TW]=??????????? Usenet ????
>
> Regards,
> Rachel

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>

Gen Kanai

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Sep 12, 2008, 5:25:23 AM9/12/08
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On Sep 12, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Yu Rachel Zhang wrote:

> Sorry for confusion.
> Send the old translation again in UTF-8.
>


I sent the ja to Rachel directly.

Gen

Cédric Corazza

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Sep 12, 2008, 11:52:58 AM9/12/08
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Yu Rachel Zhang a écrit :

>> Comment[fr]=Lire les e-mails, blogs et forums de discussion Usenet
Comment[fr]=Lire les e-mails, blogs, forums de discussion Usenet et l'agenda


Regards

Cédric

Axel Hecht

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Sep 12, 2008, 1:06:02 PM9/12/08
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AFAICT, Rachel (hi Rachel) is looking for the string with calendaring added.

Axel

Asrail

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Sep 12, 2008, 10:10:37 PM9/12/08
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Yu Rachel Zhang, 12-09-2008 05:32:

> Hi Experts,
>
> Would you please help?
> I need to fix a translation issue for thunderbird.desktop on Solaris.
> There are 13 languages' comments which need to be updated.
> It would be great that you can help with the one in your native language
> (or you know how to translate it).
>
> Thanks a lot!
> (It's a little urgent and answers are expected *by end of next week*.)
>
>
> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*
>
> Old English message and 13 language translation (some translated message
> seem not using plural like "emails", please confirm that) are here:
> ...

> Comment[pt_BR]=Ler e-mails, blogs e fóruns de discussão da Usenet

Ler e-mails, blogs, fóruns de discussão da Usenet e agenda

Hasse

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Sep 13, 2008, 4:00:29 AM9/13/08
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In article <mailman.2105.12212...@lists.mozilla.org>, Yu Rachel Zhang wrote...

> Comment[sv]=Läs e-post, bloggar och usenet-diskussionsgrupper

Comment[sv]=Läs e-post, bloggar, usenet-diskussionsgrupper och kalendern

"e-post" is used for both the singular and plural form.

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Hasse
sv-SE l10n team

Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez

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Sep 13, 2008, 6:23:41 AM9/13/08
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Yu Rachel Zhang escribió:

> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*
>
> Old English message and 13 language translation (some translated message
> seem not using plural like "emails", please confirm that) are here:
> Comment[en]=Read emails, blogs and usenet newsgroups
> Comment[es]=Leer correo electrónico, blogs y grupos de noticias de Usenet


Comment[es]=Leer correo electrónico, blogs, grupos de noticias de
Usenet y calendarios

Regarding the plural in "emails", Spanish word "correo" refers to the
whole e-mail activity, not each individual message, so there is no
need to put it in plural. If, anyway, you feel that it is better the
plural form, it would be "correos electrónicos".

As for the calendar thing, the literal translation would be "...y los
calendarios", but I feel that somehow awkward; it would sound more
natural at the beginning of the phrase:

Comment[es]=Leer los correos electrónicos, blogs, grupos de noticias
de Usenet y calendarios

So, my recommended translation is the first one. If you need the
maximum consistency with the original english, then choose the last one.

Ricardo

Alexander L. Slovesnik

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Sep 13, 2008, 7:07:20 AM9/13/08
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Hi Yu Rachel Zhang

12.09.2008 13:05 you wrote:

> Comment[ru]=Чтение почты, просмотр блогов и новостных групп usenet

Comment[ru]=Чтение почты, просмотр блогов, новостных групп usenet и
календарей


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Pavel Cvrcek

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Sep 13, 2008, 7:30:34 AM9/13/08
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Yu Rachel Zhang napsal(a):

> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*
>
> Old English message and 13 language translation (some translated message
> seem not using plural like "emails", please confirm that) are here:
> Comment[cz]=C(tení pos(ty, blogu* a diskuzních skupin

Comment[cz]=Čtení pošty, blogů, diskusních skupin a kalendáře

Best regards,

Pavel Cvrček (JasnaPaka)

Alexander Ihrig

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Sep 13, 2008, 12:37:27 PM9/13/08
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Yu Rachel Zhang schrieb:

> Comment[en]=Read emails, blogs and usenet newsgroups
This would be:
Comment[de]=Lesen von E-Mails, Blogs und Newsgruppen

>> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*

This would be (including calendar):
Comment[de]=Lesen von E-Mails, Blogs, Newsgruppen und des Kalenders

Regards
Alex Ihrig

Robert Kaiser

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Sep 13, 2008, 12:38:07 PM9/13/08
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Yu Rachel Zhang wrote:
> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*

> Comment[de]=Lesen von E-Mails, Blogs und Newsgroup

New German:
Comment[de]=Lesen von E-Mails, Blogs, Newsgroups und Kalender

Robert Kaiser

Alexander Ihrig

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Sep 13, 2008, 12:39:24 PM9/13/08
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Robert Kaiser schrieb:

For *Thunderbird* it has to be "Newsgruppen" - not "Newsgroups".

Regards
Alex Ihrig

Robert Kaiser

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Sep 13, 2008, 1:12:12 PM9/13/08
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Alexander Ihrig wrote:
> For *Thunderbird* it has to be "Newsgruppen" - not "Newsgroups".

Hrm, OK, you know better owning Thunderbird... I for myself hate those
completely mixed Denglisch words. ;-)

Robert Kaiser

Rimas Kudelis

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Sep 15, 2008, 1:47:06 AM9/15/08
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Hi,

Yu Rachel Zhang rašė:


> Hi Experts,
>
> Would you please help?
> I need to fix a translation issue for thunderbird.desktop on Solaris.
> There are 13 languages' comments which need to be updated.
> It would be great that you can help with the one in your native language
> (or you know how to translate it).
>
> Thanks a lot!
> (It's a little urgent and answers are expected *by end of next week*.)
>
>
> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*

In case you are willing to add a language that is not there:

Comment[lt]=Jūsų el. paštas, tinklaraščiai, naujienų grupės ir kalendorius

Translated back to English, that would be "Your e-mail, blogs,
newsgroups and calendar". I don't think you are actually READING the
calendar, so I changed the semantics a little.

RQ

Stefan Plewako

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Sep 15, 2008, 7:35:57 AM9/15/08
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Yu Rachel Zhang wrote:
> Hi Experts,
>
> Would you please help?
> I need to fix a translation issue for thunderbird.desktop on Solaris.
> There are 13 languages' comments which need to be updated.
> It would be great that you can help with the one in your native language
> (or you know how to translate it).
>
> Thanks a lot!
> (It's a little urgent and answers are expected *by end of next week*.)

> New English message is:
> Comment[en]=Read email*s*, blogs, usenet newsgroups *and the calendar*

> Old English message and 13 language translation (some translated message

> Comment[pl]=Czytac' wiadomos'ci, blogi oraz grupy dyskusyjn

For polish that would be:
Comment[pl]=Czytaj wiadomości, blogi, grupy dyskusyjne oraz korzystaj z kalendarza


Regards,
Stefan Plewako

P.S. don't know the context but the old translation string is quite buggy anyway - it was automatic translation? no qa?

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Rimas Kudelis

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Sep 15, 2008, 7:58:30 AM9/15/08
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Stefan Plewako rašė:

not too buggy, I guess. Quoting the followup:

> Comment[pl]=Czytać wiadomości, blogi oraz grupy dyskusyjn

RQ

Michael Wolf

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Sep 15, 2008, 9:13:39 AM9/15/08
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Robert Kaiser napisa:

> Hrm, OK, you know better owning Thunderbird... I for myself hate those
> completely mixed Denglisch words. ;-)

Me, too. But English "Newsgroups"? Why not "Diskussionsgruppen"? But I
don't want to provoke a discussion and let me call a purist!

Regards,
Michael

Stefan Plewako

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Sep 15, 2008, 9:42:05 AM9/15/08
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On 15.09.2008 13:58, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
> Stefan Plewako rašė:

>> P.S. don't know the context but the old translation string is quite
>> buggy anyway - it was automatic translation? no qa?
>>
>
> not too buggy, I guess. Quoting the followup:
>
>> Comment[pl]=Czytać wiadomości, blogi oraz grupy dyskusyjn

If you describe one simple string with two bugs as 'not too buggy' usually, then probably yes.


Stef

Robert Kaiser

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Sep 15, 2008, 11:42:45 AM9/15/08
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Michael Wolf wrote:
> Robert Kaiser napisa:
>> Hrm, OK, you know better owning Thunderbird... I for myself hate those
>> completely mixed Denglisch words. ;-)
>
> Me, too. But English "Newsgroups"? Why not "Diskussionsgruppen"?

Well, it's not "discussion groups", and "newsgroups" are not translated
in most technical media I see - but then, I'm a geek who reads more
English than German nowadays ;-)

Robert Kaiser

Rimas Kudelis

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Sep 16, 2008, 1:49:45 AM9/16/08
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2008.09.15 16:42, Stefan Plewako rašė:
> On 15.09.2008 13:58, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
>> Stefan Plewako rašė:
>>> P.S. don't know the context but the old translation string is quite
>>> buggy anyway - it was automatic translation? no qa?
>>>
>>
>> not too buggy, I guess. Quoting the followup:
>>
>>> Comment[pl]=Czytać wiadomości, blogi oraz grupy dyskusyjn
>
> If you describe one simple string with two bugs as 'not too buggy'
> usually, then probably yes.

OK, I'm shut. :D

RQ

Tim Babych

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Sep 16, 2008, 6:16:59 AM9/16/08
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Hello. In case you want to add Ukrainian string here it comes:

Comment[uk]=Читайте пошту, блоги та групи новин
> > Regards,
> > Rachel
> > _______________________________________________
> > dev-l10n mailing list
> > dev-l...@lists.mozilla.org
> >https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n

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