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Marcelo Ghelman

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Mar 9, 2021, 8:48:46 AM3/9/21
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Hi,

I have a request that I believe will help us all.
When we need to change a specific word or term, the search results include
all strings that have it in all suggestions.
If Pontoon have an "Approved Only" extra filter, the results would show
only the strings that have that word or term in their approved suggestion.
With this filter it will be easier to know which string still need to be
changed.

Thanks for the improvements on Pontoon,
Marcelo

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> 1. Re: Pontoon questions (Matjaz Horvat)
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> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 13:29:59 +0100
> From: Matjaz Horvat <mat...@mozilla.com>
> To: Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <baurth...@gmail.com>
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> Thanks, Baurzhan!
>
> I agree about the word count. It's particularly useful for projects with
> long strings (I'm looking at you, Mozilla.org).
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> We already collect word counts for each source string, and we have yet to
> aggregate that per project, locale and project-locale as hinted at in
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621290.
>
> Feel free to file a bug to expose word counts in Pontoon UI.
>
> -Matja?
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> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 5:49 AM Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <
> baurth...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi Matjaz,
> >
> > Apologies for delay.
> >
> > 1) Filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1696722 I have
> > checked one more time, and clarified the description so that it refers
> > to the cases when message consisting of several fields is being
> > translated (2 or more fields at once, label+accesskey, for example).
> > 2) Filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1696723
> >
> > Also, is there a plan to have word counters in place? Having such a
> > metric would be great in addition to the messages metric, when
> > planning translation work.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:41 PM Matjaz Horvat <mat...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Baurzhan,
> > >
> > > Thanks for reporting the issues and providing suggestions!
> > >
> > > Could you please file bugs for 1) and 2) here
> >
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Webtools&component=Pontoon
> > ?
> > >
> > > We'll need to take 1) into account when addressing bug 1406576.
> > >
> > > 3) is already tracked at
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350542, you can CC
> yourself
> > to follow it.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Matja?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:33 AM Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <
> > baurth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I have 3 small questions on the usability of Pontoon.
> > >>
> > >> 1) Can the edit fields autogrow when translation of a large string is
> > >> copied to it?
> > >> 2) When saving the translation, can the notification message appear on
> > >> the right corner, instead of taking the whole width of a window? Or
> > >> modified in other ways, so that it is less distracting?
> > >> 3) Can we have a (configurable) pane to quickly enter common symbols,
> > >> like (_,%,$), that could be useful for keyboard layouts that do not
> > >> have it?
> > >>
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> From: Matjaz Horvat <mat...@mozilla.com>
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> Subject: Introducing "Missing without Unreviewed" filter in Pontoon
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> Hi,
>
> We've just added a new "Missing without Unreviewed" filter to Pontoon,
> which lists all missing strings that don't have any unreviewed suggestions
> or fuzzy strings present.
>
> The filter should be particularly useful when you have multiple missing
> strings and many of them already have suggestions. Now you can list only
> the ones for which you still need to submit suggestions.
>
> You can find the new filter in the Extra section:
>
> https://pontoon.mozilla.org/projects/all-projects/all-resources/?extra=missing-without-unreviewed
>
> Thanks to Vishal <https://github.com/vishalcr7/> for the implementation!
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> We hope you'll find the new feature useful!
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> Thanks,
> Matja?
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Matjaz Horvat

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Mar 10, 2021, 3:48:29 AM3/10/21
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Hi Marcelo!

Thanks for the suggestion!

We already track a similar idea, which changes the default search behaviour
when filters are applied. If you filter Translated, we only search
Translated, if you filter Untranslated, we only search Untranslated, etc.

See more details in the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1399839

Would that be a sufficient solution for your request?

-Matjaž

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Marcelo Ghelman

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Mar 10, 2021, 6:53:14 AM3/10/21
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Hi Matjaz,

My request is exactly that Théo asked for in 1399839 bug.
I failed to say: "When we need to change the *translation* of a specific
word or term".
I mean, sometimes we need to change a term translation in all strings that
already have an approved translation.
It happens when there are older localizations we want to normalize to use
the same translation, or when a new conflicting term appears.
For example, we used to translate "offline" as "*desconectado*". Then, the
term "disconnected" showed up meaning a device not connected to a Firefox
Account.
I needed to change all previous translations that had "*desconectado*", but
the search results included all strings, including those already fixed.
In terms of UI, my best thought was to add an extra filter named "Approved
Only", but maybe there is a better way.

Best,
Marcelo

Em qua., 10 de mar. de 2021 às 05:48, Matjaz Horvat <mat...@mozilla.com>
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Matjaz Horvat

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Mar 10, 2021, 7:14:22 AM3/10/21
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Thanks for clarifying, Marcelo!

Let's continue the discussion in the bug. I've put it on our radar:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Pontoon#Non-Roadmap_goals

-Matjaž

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