Who is interested in localizing Boot to Gecko (a.k.a. B2G and Firefox OS)?

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Staś Małolepszy

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Jul 18, 2012, 9:39:47 AM7/18/12
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Hi all,

As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing
a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.

It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented
in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5
apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery,
Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.

See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
information about the architecture and codenames.

We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.

The plan is this:

- the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
- the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
- the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
- the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).

Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
they won't be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some additions,
but I'll do my best to limit changes to already localized strings.

What's the workload? We don't really know yet for sure, as not all the
UI has landed yet. Today's numbers are this:

~500 strings in Gaia
~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there's a good chance that we will be
able to reuse Mobile translations here.

(FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
is ~5000 strings.)

Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for
the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can't ship B2G
with more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for
testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of
having langpacks for B2G.

So, who's in? :)

Best,
-stas

Percy Cabello - Mozilla Perú

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Jul 18, 2012, 9:43:53 AM7/18/12
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I'm in and definitely more are coming to take this into Spanish. Do we know
what will be the localization platform? Narro, Verbatim?

Waiting for the signal!
Percy

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Staś Małolepszy <st...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing a
> mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented in
> HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5 apps,
> like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery, Camera,
> Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/**Architecture#Terminology<https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology>for more
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>

Michael Bauer

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Jul 18, 2012, 9:45:19 AM7/18/12
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I'd rather be in from the start with Scots Gaelic assuming that l10n
WILL be part of the deal, it keeps the volume down over time.

What format will l10n take? As in, Pootle server or somesuch? Or just
like Firefox?

Cheers

Michael

18/07/2012 14:39, sgrìobh Staś Małolepszy:

Alexander L. Slovesnik

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Jul 18, 2012, 9:50:47 AM7/18/12
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I would like to translate it in Russian.

> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing
> a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented
> in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5
> apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery,
> Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> information about the architecture and codenames.
>
> We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
> they won't be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
> and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
> to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
> then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some additions,
> but I'll do my best to limit changes to already localized strings.
>
> What's the workload? We don't really know yet for sure, as not all the
> UI has landed yet. Today's numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there's a good chance that we will be
> able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
> is ~5000 strings.)
>
> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for
> the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can't ship B2G
> with more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for
> testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of
> having langpacks for B2G.
>
> So, who's in? :)
>
> Best,
> -stas
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n
>


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Peter Pin-Guang Chen

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Jul 18, 2012, 9:52:07 AM7/18/12
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zh-TW +1 please.

Peter

2012/7/18 Staś Małolepszy <st...@mozilla.com>

> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing a
> mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented in
> HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5 apps,
> like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery, Camera,
> Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/**Architecture#Terminology<https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology>for more
> ______________________________**_________________
> dev-l10n mailing list
> dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/**listinfo/dev-l10n<https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n>
>

flod

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Jul 18, 2012, 9:58:27 AM7/18/12
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Italian is interested ;-)

Francesco

Toni Hermoso Pulido

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Jul 18, 2012, 10:08:23 AM7/18/12
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Hi Stas,

great news.

Count me in for ca.

There are not too many strings in the end, but will the strings in
kaze repository be reused?

Cheers,

P.D.: Crossing fingers for a better l10n outcome than in Firefox for Android :(


2012/7/18 Staś Małolepszy <st...@mozilla.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing a
> mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented in
> HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5 apps,
> like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery, Camera,
> Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> _______________________________________________
> dev-l10n mailing list
> dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n



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Sander Lepik

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Jul 18, 2012, 10:20:16 AM7/18/12
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18.07.2012 16:39, Staś Małolepszy kirjutas:
> Hi all,
>
> [...]
>
> So, who's in? :)
New stuff is always interesting. Estonian (et) is in :)

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Romi Hardiyanto

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Jul 18, 2012, 10:33:49 AM7/18/12
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Please add Indonesian into the loop.

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Cheers,
Romi
> So, who's in? :)
>

Dwayne Bailey

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Jul 18, 2012, 10:40:50 AM7/18/12
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On 18/07/2012 14:43, Percy Cabello - Mozilla Perú wrote:
> I'm in and definitely more are coming to take this into Spanish. Do we know
> what will be the localization platform? Narro, Verbatim?
From what I understand, apart from the new .properties plural forms
moz2po should work so these can be hosted on Verbatim. I'll be looking
at things to if we can put up PO files at mozilla.locamotion.org for the
Firefox localisers that work there.
>
> Waiting for the signal!
> Percy
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Staś Małolepszy <st...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing a
>> mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>>
>> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
>> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented in
>> HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5 apps,
>> like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery, Camera,
>> Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>>
>> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/**Architecture#Terminology<https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology>for more
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> dev-l10n mailing list
>> dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
>> https://lists.mozilla.org/**listinfo/dev-l10n<https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dev-l10n mailing list
> dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n


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Robert Kaiser

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Staś Małolepszy schrieb:
> So, who's in? :)

I'm surely interested in helping that system any way I can, would love
to at least help with the German L10n. :)

Robert Kaiser


Eduardo Trápani

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Jul 18, 2012, 12:47:33 PM7/18/12
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> So, who's in? :)

Esperanto (eo) is in.

Eduardo.

Théo Chevalier

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Jul 18, 2012, 12:52:41 PM7/18/12
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> So, who's in? :)
I'm a new member of the french l10n team, and I'll do my best to
translate B2G ! We're in :)

Cheers, Th�o

Khaled Hosny

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Jul 18, 2012, 2:30:24 PM7/18/12
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The Arabic team (ar) is definitely interested.

Regards,
Khaled

mak

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Jul 18, 2012, 6:55:22 PM7/18/12
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> So, who's in? :)
>

To be with things from the beginning feels great! Regardless, when we can
expect device in our region, we'll start localization of FirefoxOS right
away.

Bengali (bn-BD) is in.


regards
mak_
Mozilla Bengali (Bangladesh) Localization Coordinator.

marsf

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Jul 19, 2012, 12:52:55 AM7/19/12
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I'd like to work for Japanese (ja).

marsf

2012年7月18日水曜日 22時39分47秒 UTC+9 Staś Małolepszy:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing
> a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented
> in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5
> apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery,
> Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> information about the architecture and codenames.
>
> We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
> they won&#39;t be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
> and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
> to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
> then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some additions,
> but I&#39;ll do my best to limit changes to already localized strings.
>
> What&#39;s the workload? We don&#39;t really know yet for sure, as not all the
> UI has landed yet. Today&#39;s numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there&#39;s a good chance that we will be
> able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
> is ~5000 strings.)
>
> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for
> the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can&#39;t ship B2G
> with more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for
> testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of
> having langpacks for B2G.
>
> So, who&#39;s in? :)
>
> Best,
> -stas

Hasse

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Jul 19, 2012, 2:58:27 AM7/19/12
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If Swedish (sv-SE) is an interesting locale to have, I can do that.

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文少华

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Jul 19, 2012, 4:34:36 AM7/19/12
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+1 for zh-CN.

Br.
Holy

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Staś Małolepszy <st...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing a
> mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented in
> HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5 apps,
> like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery, Camera,
> Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/**Architecture#Terminology<https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology>for more
> information about the architecture and codenames.
>
> We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that they
> won't be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages and rare
> and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer to freeze
> what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right then. For the
> second string freeze we will probably see some additions, but I'll do my
> best to limit changes to already localized strings.
>
> What's the workload? We don't really know yet for sure, as not all the UI
> has landed yet. Today's numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there's a good chance that we will be
> able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile is
> ~5000 strings.)
>
> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for the
> first release. This does not mean, however, that we can't ship B2G with
> more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for testing
> everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of having
> langpacks for B2G.
>
> So, who's in? :)
>
> Best,
> -stas
>

Besnik Bleta

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Jul 19, 2012, 6:29:28 AM7/19/12
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I'd like to cover the localization into sq.

cheers

Më 07/18/2012 04:39 PM, Staś Małolepszy shkrojti:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards
> releasing a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to
> Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace
> layer, with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps
> implemented in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will
> consist of HTML5 apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser,
> Email, Gallery, Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> _______________________________________________
> dev-l10n mailing list
> dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n
>

Rajesh Ranjan

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Stas,

I am here for Hindi.


Please try to release Hindi :-)


Rajesh


   

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Ani Peter

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Stas,

Please count me in for Malayalam (ml).

Thanks
Ani
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Krishnababu Krothapalli

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Hi,
I wish to contribute for 'Telugu [te]' localization.
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n
>
Regards,
Krishna.

Marcelo Poli

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El 18/07/12 10:39, Staś Małolepszy escribió:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing
> a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>

Count me in.
Argentina should have a localization as it will be one of the first
countries where Telefónica will sell phones with B2G.

deusdet...@hotmail.com

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Quarta-feira, 18 de Julho de 2012 10:39:47 UTC-3, Staś Małolepszy escreveu:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing
> a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented
> in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5
> apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery,
> Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> information about the architecture and codenames.
>
> We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
> they won&#39;t be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
> and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
> to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
> then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some additions,
> but I&#39;ll do my best to limit changes to already localized strings.
>
> What&#39;s the workload? We don&#39;t really know yet for sure, as not all the
> UI has landed yet. Today&#39;s numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there&#39;s a good chance that we will be
> able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
> is ~5000 strings.)
>
> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for
> the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can&#39;t ship B2G
> with more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for
> testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of
> having langpacks for B2G.
>
> So, who&#39;s in? :)
>
> Best,
> -stas

Fernando Pereira Silveira

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Hi Staś,

You can count on Brazilian Community, of course! ;-)

Our localization mailing list:
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n-pt-br

Em quarta-feira, 18 de julho de 2012 10h39min47s UTC-3, Staś Małolepszy escreveu:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing
> a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented
> in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5
> apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery,
> Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> information about the architecture and codenames.
>
> We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
> they won&#39;t be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
> and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
> to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
> then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some additions,
> but I&#39;ll do my best to limit changes to already localized strings.
>
> What&#39;s the workload? We don&#39;t really know yet for sure, as not all the
> UI has landed yet. Today&#39;s numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there&#39;s a good chance that we will be
> able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
> is ~5000 strings.)
>
> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for
> the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can&#39;t ship B2G
> with more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for
> testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of
> having langpacks for B2G.
>
> So, who&#39;s in? :)
>
> Best,
> -stas

tonn...@gmail.com

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Hi Stas,

Please count Dutch/nl in.

Ton

Manoj Giri

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Hi,
I'm interested to do it for Odia (or) Localization.
Please consider me in.
Thanks,
Manoj
On 18/07/12 19:09, Staś Małolepszy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards
> releasing a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to
> Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace
> layer, with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps
> implemented in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will
> consist of HTML5 apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser,
> Email, Gallery, Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> information about the architecture and codenames.
>
> We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
> they won't be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
> and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
> to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
> then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some
> additions, but I'll do my best to limit changes to already localized
> strings.
>
> What's the workload? We don't really know yet for sure, as not all the
> UI has landed yet. Today's numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there's a good chance that we will
> be able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
> is ~5000 strings.)
>
> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese
> for the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can't ship
> B2G with more locales available, for users in the said geographies,
> and for testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the
> feasibility of having langpacks for B2G.
>
> So, who's in? :)
>
> Best,
> -stas
>

Keko

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Hi.

Galician (gl) is in.

keko


El miércoles, 18 de julio de 2012 15:39:47 UTC+2, Staś Małolepszy escribió:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing
> a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented
> in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5
> apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery,
> Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> information about the architecture and codenames.
>
> We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
> they won&#39;t be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
> and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
> to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
> then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some additions,
> but I&#39;ll do my best to limit changes to already localized strings.
>
> What&#39;s the workload? We don&#39;t really know yet for sure, as not all the
> UI has landed yet. Today&#39;s numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there&#39;s a good chance that we will be
> able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
> is ~5000 strings.)
>
> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for
> the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can&#39;t ship B2G
> with more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for
> testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of
> having langpacks for B2G.
>
> So, who&#39;s in? :)
>
> Best,
> -stas

Julen Ruiz Aizpuru

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Hi,

I have some questions/doubts regarding this. Comments inline.

az., 2012.eko uztren 18a 15:39(e)an, Staś Małolepszy(e)k idatzi zuen:
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
> they won't be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
> and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
> to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
> then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some additions,
> but I'll do my best to limit changes to already localized strings.

Is the second freeze a strict freeze? I don't think I'm the only one who
is tired of suffering broken string freezes (did I read mobile?), so
it's important to know if this is going to be treated as a serious
deadline for any string changes.

> What's the workload? We don't really know yet for sure, as not all the
> UI has landed yet. Today's numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there's a good chance that we will be
> able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
> is ~5000 strings.)

Any estimates on the word count? That gives a more accurate estimation
of the amount of work to be done.

> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for
> the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can't ship B2G
> with more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for
> testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of
> having langpacks for B2G.

What are the plans to market the devices? I ask this because in case
B2G-enabled devices are not available around soon, people could opt to
prioritize other l10n work. This is specially true for those who are
localizing into small languages.

Funtomas

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On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:39:47 PM UTC+2, Staś Małolepszy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably very well know, Mozilla is gearing up towards releasing
> a mobile OS based on Gecko and HTML, codenamed Boot to Gecko, or B2G.
>
> It is a stack comprised of a Linux kernel and low-level userspace layer,
> with Gecko running on top of it, and all UI and other apps implemented
> in HTML and JS. Gaia is the name of the UI, which will consist of HTML5
> apps, like the Homescreen, Dialer, Contacts, Browser, Email, Gallery,
> Camera, Clock, Calculator, Lockscreen, Settings etc.
>
> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture#Terminology for more
> information about the architecture and codenames.
>
> We will be soon kicking off the localization effort for B2G.
>
> The plan is this:
>
> - the UX freeze this Friday, July 20th,
> - the first string freeze the next Friday, July 27th,
> - the second string freeze TBD, probably the first week of August,
> - the deadline will be Tuesday, August 21st (more than 3 weeks total).
>
> Why two string freezes? We are already hearing from developers that
> they won&#39;t be able to freeze everything by 7/27 (think error messages
> and rare and unexpected paths the interaction might follow). We prefer
> to freeze what we can early (7/27) and start the localization right
> then. For the second string freeze we will probably see some additions,
> but I&#39;ll do my best to limit changes to already localized strings.
>
> What&#39;s the workload? We don&#39;t really know yet for sure, as not all the
> UI has landed yet. Today&#39;s numbers are this:
>
> ~500 strings in Gaia
> ~200 strings in Gecko/toolkit, but there&#39;s a good chance that we will be
> able to reuse Mobile translations here.
>
> (FYI, the entire Firefox Desktop with toolkit is ~6600, Firefox Mobile
> is ~5000 strings.)
>
> Lastly, keep in mind that the first devices will be marketed in South
> America, so we will be focusing on Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese for
> the first release. This does not mean, however, that we can&#39;t ship B2G
> with more locales available, for users in the said geographies, and for
> testing everywhere else. We are also investigating the feasibility of
> having langpacks for B2G.
>
> So, who&#39;s in? :)
>
> Best,
> -stas

Definitely interested, so count on me (cs-CZ).

Cheers!

Tom

Funtomas

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Matjaz Horvat

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Slovenian (sl).

-Matjaž

Ibraahiima SAAR

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Hi
Been waiting for this announcement. Definitely interesting in localizing
into Fulah (ff). Already localized Fennec and Firefox.
Regards
Ibrahima SARR
Fulah Team Lead

2012/7/20 Matjaz Horvat <matjaz...@gmail.com>

> Slovenian (sl).
>
> -Matjaž
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Funtomas <funt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

Tomer Cohen

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Please count me in for Hebrew support. Also, please keep in mind that the current state of RTL UI in b2g isn't at its best.

Tomer Cohen

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