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Philippe

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May 16, 2010, 5:09:37 PM5/16/10
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Hi there.

Some news from the transvision scripts aka localisation glossaries.

When you go to http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/ you'll find the
glossary for the 1.9.2 branch (comm, mozilla, mobile1.1 and various
other directories).

When you go to http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/trunk you'll find
the glossary for the trunk (comm, mozilla, mobile and various other
directories).

For this two url, you'll find a glossary, an alignement tool, a
duplicate search (for the trunk, the cache will be updated tomorrow).

The results for the glossary are now highlited and colors are used in
the first collumn.
You can now use regexp, *wildcard, make the search case sensitive, whole
word only and search on the entity names.


In beta : you can also get the results of the glossary via a webservice
via the url :
http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/fr/glossaire_webservice.php
with the same search options as the url:
http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/fr/index.php
(try a search on this page and look at the resulting url).
This part can be perfected on demand.


As a side effect, we propose now two mercurial repositories :
http://hg.frenchmozilla.fr/
who follow the 1.9.2 branch for all the products, and
http://hg_trunk.frenchmozilla.fr/
who follow the trunk.


You can get some informations on how the transvision tool can help you
make a better localisation in reading the two messages from goofy on the
babelzilla blog :
http://blog.babelzilla.org/2010/02/07/transvision-is-good-for-me/
and
http://blog.babelzilla.org/2010/03/07/transvision-progress/

The wiki page :
http://wiki.frenchmozilla.fr/wiki/index.php/Scripts_de_glossaire#Feedback.2C_questions.3F
can also be interesting, but perhaps a little outdated.

For the french locale, I've also made a term to term glossary automatically:
http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/fr/Term2Term/

This is done with Mathematica and take time (approximatly one hour) to
compute. It's not perfectly accurate, but, if I have time, I'll plan to
perfect the calculations.
From the localization perspective, I don't think it is really usefull
but it was fun to make. If someone from a different locale is interested
on the results, I can make on demand a term to term glossary (expect
time lag on the realisation).

I hope this will be usefull for you.

Philippe

Mad Maks

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May 19, 2010, 5:28:19 AM5/19/10
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Thank you and your team for this great tool! It is really great help in
making the translations beter!

Tim Maks

Tim Babych

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Jun 18, 2010, 9:34:55 AM6/18/10
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17.05.10 00:09, Philippe написав(ла):

> Hi there.
>
> Some news from the transvision scripts aka localisation glossaries.
>
> When you go to http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/ you'll find the
> glossary for the 1.9.2 branch (comm, mozilla, mobile1.1 and various
> other directories).
>
> When you go to http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/trunk you'll find
> the glossary for the trunk (comm, mozilla, mobile and various other
> directories).

Kudos, Philippe! Those are cool :)

smo

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Jun 19, 2010, 7:05:11 AM6/19/10
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On 18 jun., 15:34, Tim Babych <tim.bab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 17.05.10 00:09, Philippe написав(ла):
>
> > Hi there.
>
> > Some news from the transvision scripts aka localisation glossaries.
>
> > When you go tohttp://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/you'll find the

> > glossary for the 1.9.2 branch (comm, mozilla, mobile1.1 and various
> > other directories).
>

Maybe it is news to you, but you get the same kind of a concordance in
any decent CAT tool. Here the screenshot from OmegaT SL project for
Lanikai 1.9.2:

http://tinyurl.com/3adzjvm

The beauty (and the sweat) behind the two URLs are the TMX files,
created from the status in the repository. This is what would be of
big help to those who still use Notepad++ or similar (check the
suggestions ree translating in https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Bootstrapping_a_New_Locale).

Here's the URL for OmegaT, free open source Translation tool,
available for Win, OSX, Linux users, which SL group (among others) has
been using to localize:

www.omegat.org

You may also want to peek into the usergroup on yahoo

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Omegat/

or into the sourceforge for downloads, sources etc

http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/

Once you have the TMX (i.e. the existing translation memory in your
langauge), which I assume our French colleagues would have no problem
to make available, you should have no problem to kick off.

If there's any questions, feel free to touch base with me.

Regards

smo

Philippe

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Jun 20, 2010, 3:45:31 PM6/20/10
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Le 19/06/2010 13:05, smo a écrit :
> On 18 jun., 15:34, Tim Babych<tim.bab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 17.05.10 00:09, Philippe написав(ла):
>>
>>> Hi there.
>>
>>> Some news from the transvision scripts aka localisation glossaries.
>>
>>> When you go tohttp://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/you'll find the
>>> glossary for the 1.9.2 branch (comm, mozilla, mobile1.1 and various
>>> other directories).
>>
>
> Maybe it is news to you, but you get the same kind of a concordance in
> any decent CAT tool. Here the screenshot from OmegaT SL project for
> Lanikai 1.9.2:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3adzjvm
>

Yep, I know that omegaT can make this.
I first made the scripts to produce TMX files in fact, the web
glossaries came after.

The better thing behind these web glossaries is that they are updated
each day. So it is not necessary to download each day a new TMX and put
it in omegaT.
But I agree that omegaT have perhaps more functions than the transvision
web glossaries.

[...]

>
> Once you have the TMX (i.e. the existing translation memory in your
> langauge), which I assume our French colleagues would have no problem
> to make available, you should have no problem to kick off.


That's because I forgot to put the links to the tmx files in my previous
post.

For the 1.9.2 branch :
http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/TMX/

For the trunk :

http://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/trunk/TMX/

I can also on demand make TMX for different sources than en-US.

Philippe

smo

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Jun 22, 2010, 12:34:12 AM6/22/10
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On 20 jun., 21:45, Philippe <phili...@disque-monde.org> wrote:
> Le 19/06/2010 13:05, smo a écrit :
>
>
>
> > On 18 jun., 15:34, Tim Babych<tim.bab...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> 17.05.10 00:09, Philippe написав(ла):
>
> >>> Hi there.
>
> >>> Some news from the transvision scripts aka localisation glossaries.
>
> >>> When you go tohttp://www.frenchmozilla.fr/glossaire/you'llfind the

I knew something was missing (g). Very much appreciated.

Amicalement

Vito

Matjaz Horvat

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Jun 22, 2010, 3:47:42 AM6/22/10
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Exactly what I needed! Thank you very much, Philippe!

Matjaž

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