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Michael Wolf
Jun 21, 2015, 7:14:41 AM6/21/15
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Hello,
new Pootle has been started now and it looks pretty good. But, I dislike
that the number of critical errors is so conspicuous. In fact, often
there are no critical errors. Most of the so-called critical errors are
just shown as critical errors because the syntax of the translated
strings is compared with this of the English strings. Translators have
to check the translated strings needlessly. Maybe two or three strings
really have errors but most strings have no error. The syntax check is
misleading because it shows errors where no errors are.
Regards,
Michael
new Pootle has been started now and it looks pretty good. But, I dislike
that the number of critical errors is so conspicuous. In fact, often
there are no critical errors. Most of the so-called critical errors are
just shown as critical errors because the syntax of the translated
strings is compared with this of the English strings. Translators have
to check the translated strings needlessly. Maybe two or three strings
really have errors but most strings have no error. The syntax check is
misleading because it shows errors where no errors are.
Regards,
Michael
Ibrahima SARR
Jun 21, 2015, 11:20:19 AM6/21/15
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Hi Friedel
Is the new Pootle on Locamotion?
Yeah Friedel I dislike that too. It might appear as ignorant arrogance for
English to think if something does not look like, it's probably wrong. I
have usually wasted a lot of time checking those perfect Fulah strings
marked as errors.
Chers
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Is the new Pootle on Locamotion?
Yeah Friedel I dislike that too. It might appear as ignorant arrogance for
English to think if something does not look like, it's probably wrong. I
have usually wasted a lot of time checking those perfect Fulah strings
marked as errors.
Chers
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Emin Mastizada
Jun 21, 2015, 11:29:54 AM6/21/15
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The new one is something like transifex clone, also I can't find my
lovely page, goals (/lang/firefox/goals)
Emin Mastizada
Mozilla Representative @ Mozilla Corparation
Computer Engineering @ Istanbul Technical University
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Axel Hecht
Jun 22, 2015, 4:21:24 AM6/22/15
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Please don't complain about the fact that localizers make mistakes and
us infra guys write tools to find them.
If you find a false positive, open an issue. The current list on
https://github.com/translate/translate/labels/checks doesn't seem to be
exhaustive.
The fact that they're now less easy to overlook is good for you, you
should embrace that change with joy.
Axel
us infra guys write tools to find them.
If you find a false positive, open an issue. The current list on
https://github.com/translate/translate/labels/checks doesn't seem to be
exhaustive.
The fact that they're now less easy to overlook is good for you, you
should embrace that change with joy.
Axel
Michael Wolf
Jun 22, 2015, 4:52:32 AM6/22/15
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Axel Hecht schrieb:
>
> If you find a false positive, open an issue. The current list on
> https://github.com/translate/translate/labels/checks doesn't seem to be
> exhaustive.
That's a joke, isn't it? A false positive! A false positive is here if
translators find a real error! Localizers created a new Pootle, that's
OK, but why did they take over this useless syntax check?
>
> The fact that they're now less easy to overlook is good for you, you
> should embrace that change with joy.
Do you mock translators? The syntax check is useless and they should
embrace the change that errors that are not errors are displayed so
conspicuously. The new Pootle would have been a chance to introduce a
useful syntax check or, if not possible, to give it up.
Michael
> Please don't complain about the fact that localizers make mistakes and
> us infra guys write tools to find them.
I didn't complain, I critized. That's a difference.
> us infra guys write tools to find them.
>
> If you find a false positive, open an issue. The current list on
> https://github.com/translate/translate/labels/checks doesn't seem to be
> exhaustive.
translators find a real error! Localizers created a new Pootle, that's
OK, but why did they take over this useless syntax check?
>
> The fact that they're now less easy to overlook is good for you, you
> should embrace that change with joy.
embrace the change that errors that are not errors are displayed so
conspicuously. The new Pootle would have been a chance to introduce a
useful syntax check or, if not possible, to give it up.
Michael
Michael Bauer
Jun 22, 2015, 5:27:58 AM6/22/15
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Which syntax check exactly are we talking?
It's true there are some long term annoyances in there which affect most
locales (plurals as FP, SimplePlurals, use of caps) but most are locale
specific (like use of ' though that's going away with our switch to ’)
and I think it's hard to come up with a system that fits all the target
locales well. I think at some point most of us just grit our teeth and
click the FP away.
M
Sgrìobh Michael Wolf na leanas 22/06/2015 aig 09:52:
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It's true there are some long term annoyances in there which affect most
locales (plurals as FP, SimplePlurals, use of caps) but most are locale
specific (like use of ' though that's going away with our switch to ’)
and I think it's hard to come up with a system that fits all the target
locales well. I think at some point most of us just grit our teeth and
click the FP away.
M
Sgrìobh Michael Wolf na leanas 22/06/2015 aig 09:52:
>
> Do you mock translators? The syntax check is useless and they should
> embrace the change that errors that are not errors are displayed so
> conspicuously. The new Pootle would have been a chance to introduce a
> useful syntax check or, if not possible, to give it up.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
--
> Do you mock translators? The syntax check is useless and they should
> embrace the change that errors that are not errors are displayed so
> conspicuously. The new Pootle would have been a chance to introduce a
> useful syntax check or, if not possible, to give it up.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
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Jordi Serratosa
Jun 22, 2015, 7:45:24 AM6/22/15
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Hi all
About:
"...but most are locale specific (like use of ' though that's going away
In Catalan locale the use of ' is very common in contractions. Switching to
’ is suboptimal, since the physical keyboard key is for ', not for ’
salut,
jordi s
El dia 22/06/2015 11:28, "Michael Bauer" <fi...@akerbeltz.org> va escriure:
> Which syntax check exactly are we talking?
>
> It's true there are some long term annoyances in there which affect most
> locales (plurals as FP, SimplePlurals, use of caps) but most are locale
> specific (like use of ' though that's going away with our switch to ’) and
> I think it's hard to come up with a system that fits all the target locales
> well. I think at some point most of us just grit our teeth and click the FP
> away.
>
> M
>
> Sgrìobh Michael Wolf na leanas 22/06/2015 aig 09:52:
>
>>
About:
"...but most are locale specific (like use of ' though that's going away
with our switch to ’) "
Can you elaborate on this?
In Catalan locale the use of ' is very common in contractions. Switching to
’ is suboptimal, since the physical keyboard key is for ', not for ’
salut,
jordi s
El dia 22/06/2015 11:28, "Michael Bauer" <fi...@akerbeltz.org> va escriure:
> Which syntax check exactly are we talking?
>
> It's true there are some long term annoyances in there which affect most
> locales (plurals as FP, SimplePlurals, use of caps) but most are locale
> specific (like use of ' though that's going away with our switch to ’) and
> I think it's hard to come up with a system that fits all the target locales
> well. I think at some point most of us just grit our teeth and click the FP
> away.
>
> M
>
> Sgrìobh Michael Wolf na leanas 22/06/2015 aig 09:52:
>
>>
>> Do you mock translators? The syntax check is useless and they should
>> embrace the change that errors that are not errors are displayed so
>> conspicuously. The new Pootle would have been a chance to introduce a
>> useful syntax check or, if not possible, to give it up.
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> embrace the change that errors that are not errors are displayed so
>> conspicuously. The new Pootle would have been a chance to introduce a
>> useful syntax check or, if not possible, to give it up.
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
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> Iomadh rud eadar prògraman oifis, brabhsairean, predictive texting,
> geamannan is mòran a bharrachd. Tadhail oirnn aig www.iGàidhlig.net
Michael Bauer
Jun 22, 2015, 8:01:00 AM6/22/15
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Hi Jordi
Yes, it's a touch annoying to input but I usually enter it via ALT 0146
once and then copy-paste. The other option I have used too is to take a
po file and do a replace (not global replace because I don't trust that
in such files) but in apps like Notepad++ you can use keyboard shortcuts
to accept and go to next so it's relatively fast.
The one benefit I have found, apart from avoiding all those FP checks is
that (although that's less of a problem on Mozilla) I don't get as many
bug reports for having to escape " or '.
So overall, I find it takes more time to enter but it saves as much time
overall.
Michael
Sgrìobh Jordi Serratosa na leanas 22/06/2015 aig 12:45:
Yes, it's a touch annoying to input but I usually enter it via ALT 0146
once and then copy-paste. The other option I have used too is to take a
po file and do a replace (not global replace because I don't trust that
in such files) but in apps like Notepad++ you can use keyboard shortcuts
to accept and go to next so it's relatively fast.
The one benefit I have found, apart from avoiding all those FP checks is
that (although that's less of a problem on Mozilla) I don't get as many
bug reports for having to escape " or '.
So overall, I find it takes more time to enter but it saves as much time
overall.
Michael
Sgrìobh Jordi Serratosa na leanas 22/06/2015 aig 12:45:
Besnik Bleta
Jun 23, 2015, 4:35:29 AM6/23/15
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Më 06/22/2015, 03:00 PM, Michael Bauer shkroi:
Cheers,
Besnik
> Hi Jordi
>
> Yes, it's a touch annoying to input but I usually enter it via ALT 0146
> once and then copy-paste. The other option I have used too is to take a
> po file and do a replace (not global replace because I don't trust that
> in such files) but in apps like Notepad++ you can use keyboard shortcuts
> to accept and go to next so it's relatively fast.
>
> The one benefit I have found, apart from avoiding all those FP checks is
> that (although that's less of a problem on Mozilla) I don't get as many
> bug reports for having to escape " or '.
>
> So overall, I find it takes more time to enter
One can also customize her/his keyboard to input ’ instead of '
>
> Yes, it's a touch annoying to input but I usually enter it via ALT 0146
> once and then copy-paste. The other option I have used too is to take a
> po file and do a replace (not global replace because I don't trust that
> in such files) but in apps like Notepad++ you can use keyboard shortcuts
> to accept and go to next so it's relatively fast.
>
> The one benefit I have found, apart from avoiding all those FP checks is
> that (although that's less of a problem on Mozilla) I don't get as many
> bug reports for having to escape " or '.
>
> So overall, I find it takes more time to enter
Cheers,
Besnik
Jordi Serratosa
Jun 23, 2015, 4:46:13 PM6/23/15
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Hi Michael,
I think I misunderstood your inicial comment (reading too fast):
understand that you're referring to your specific locale.
I thought Mozilla was planning to change ' to ’ globally.
Sorry about that!
salut
jordi s
El 22/06/2015 a les 14:00, Michael Bauer ha escrit:
> Hi Jordi
>
> Yes, it's a touch annoying to input but I usually enter it via ALT
> 0146 once and then copy-paste. The other option I have used too is to
> take a po file and do a replace (not global replace because I don't
> trust that in such files) but in apps like Notepad++ you can use
> keyboard shortcuts to accept and go to next so it's relatively fast.
>
> The one benefit I have found, apart from avoiding all those FP checks
> is that (although that's less of a problem on Mozilla) I don't get as
> many bug reports for having to escape " or '.
>
I think I misunderstood your inicial comment (reading too fast):
> "...but most are locale specific (like use of ' though that's going away
> with our switch to ’) "
I misunderstood that by "our switch" you meant "Mozilla", and now I
> with our switch to ’) "
understand that you're referring to your specific locale.
I thought Mozilla was planning to change ' to ’ globally.
Sorry about that!
salut
jordi s
El 22/06/2015 a les 14:00, Michael Bauer ha escrit:
> Hi Jordi
>
> Yes, it's a touch annoying to input but I usually enter it via ALT
> 0146 once and then copy-paste. The other option I have used too is to
> take a po file and do a replace (not global replace because I don't
> trust that in such files) but in apps like Notepad++ you can use
> keyboard shortcuts to accept and go to next so it's relatively fast.
>
> The one benefit I have found, apart from avoiding all those FP checks
> is that (although that's less of a problem on Mozilla) I don't get as
> many bug reports for having to escape " or '.
>
Michael Bauer
Jun 24, 2015, 5:58:25 AM6/24/15
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Ah ok, sorry for the confusion. No, I don't speak on behalf of Mozilla :)
Michael
Sgrìobh Jordi Serratosa na leanas 23/06/2015 aig 21:46:
Michael
Sgrìobh Jordi Serratosa na leanas 23/06/2015 aig 21:46:
> I misunderstood that by "our switch" you meant "Mozilla", and now I
> understand that you're referring to your specific locale.
> I thought Mozilla was planning to change ' to ’ globally.
> Sorry about that!
>
> salut
> jordi s
> understand that you're referring to your specific locale.
> I thought Mozilla was planning to change ' to ’ globally.
> Sorry about that!
>
> salut
> jordi s
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Roberto Alvarado
Jun 24, 2015, 12:50:01 PM6/24/15
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Hello,
I'm Roberto Alvarado colaborating in es-MX, I just have to say that I
really like the new Pootle. Great work!
Greetings.
Roberto Alvarado.
I'm Roberto Alvarado colaborating in es-MX, I just have to say that I
really like the new Pootle. Great work!
Greetings.
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Biraj Karmakar
Jun 24, 2015, 1:22:51 PM6/24/15
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New pootle is really cool for translation system. We can track many things
from that. I guess it is now fast than older. Yes ! Security is also there.
Great work!
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015, Roberto Alvarado <ral...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm Roberto Alvarado colaborating in es-MX, I just have to say that I
> really like the new Pootle. Great work!
>
> Greetings.
>
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n
>
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from that. I guess it is now fast than older. Yes ! Security is also there.
Great work!
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015, Roberto Alvarado <ral...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm Roberto Alvarado colaborating in es-MX, I just have to say that I
> really like the new Pootle. Great work!
>
> Greetings.
>
> 2015-06-24 4:57 GMT-05:00 Michael Bauer <fi...@akerbeltz.org <javascript:;>
> >:
>
> > Ah ok, sorry for the confusion. No, I don't speak on behalf of Mozilla :)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Sgrìobh Jordi Serratosa na leanas 23/06/2015 aig 21:46:
> >
> >> I misunderstood that by "our switch" you meant "Mozilla", and now I
> >> understand that you're referring to your specific locale.
> >> I thought Mozilla was planning to change ' to ’ globally.
> >> Sorry about that!
> >>
> >> salut
> >> jordi s
> >>
> >
> > --
> > *Akerbeltz <http://www.faclair.com/>*
> > Goireasan Gàidhlig air an lìon
> > Fòn: +44-141-946 4437
> > Facs: +44-141-945 2701
> >
> > *Tha Gàidhlig aig a' choimpiutair agad, siuthad, feuch e!*
> > Iomadh rud eadar prògraman oifis, brabhsairean, predictive texting,
> > geamannan is mòran a bharrachd. Tadhail oirnn aig www.iGàidhlig.net
> <http://www.xn--igidhlig-0ya.net>
> > <http://www.xn--igidhlig-0ya.net> <http://www.iGaidhlig.net/>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > dev-...@lists.mozilla.org <javascript:;>
> >:
>
> > Ah ok, sorry for the confusion. No, I don't speak on behalf of Mozilla :)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Sgrìobh Jordi Serratosa na leanas 23/06/2015 aig 21:46:
> >
> >> I misunderstood that by "our switch" you meant "Mozilla", and now I
> >> understand that you're referring to your specific locale.
> >> I thought Mozilla was planning to change ' to ’ globally.
> >> Sorry about that!
> >>
> >> salut
> >> jordi s
> >>
> >
> > --
> > *Akerbeltz <http://www.faclair.com/>*
> > Goireasan Gàidhlig air an lìon
> > Fòn: +44-141-946 4437
> > Facs: +44-141-945 2701
> >
> > *Tha Gàidhlig aig a' choimpiutair agad, siuthad, feuch e!*
> > Iomadh rud eadar prògraman oifis, brabhsairean, predictive texting,
> > geamannan is mòran a bharrachd. Tadhail oirnn aig www.iGàidhlig.net
> <http://www.xn--igidhlig-0ya.net>
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> >
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>
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>
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<http://birajkarmakar.wordpress.com/>*
Twitter :*@birajkarmakar*
droid...@gmail.com
Jun 25, 2015, 3:18:03 AM6/25/15
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Only thing that sucks for me is that my friends email adress is down so i can't re activate my pootle account, but he said he would try to fix it this weekend, if he does not get it up and running can anyone change my email adress on the bittin account into hackerbittin at googlemail.com ?
But i know all your guys is busy in Whistler atm so its not a hurry maybe my friends mailserver is back up when i am back from Helsinki vacation on Tuesday :)
But i know all your guys is busy in Whistler atm so its not a hurry maybe my friends mailserver is back up when i am back from Helsinki vacation on Tuesday :)
droid...@gmail.com
Jun 25, 2015, 6:17:27 AM6/25/15
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On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:18:03 AM UTC+2, droid...@gmail.com wrote:
> Only thing that sucks for me is that my friends email adress is down so i can't re activate my pootle account, but he said he would try to fix it this weekend, if he does not get it up and running can anyone change my email adress on the bittin account into hackerbittin at googlemail.com ?
>
> But i know all your guys is busy in Whistler atm so its not a hurry maybe my friends mailserver is back up when i am back from Helsinki vacation on Tuesday :)
Got the problem sorted now thanks Arky for your help
> Only thing that sucks for me is that my friends email adress is down so i can't re activate my pootle account, but he said he would try to fix it this weekend, if he does not get it up and running can anyone change my email adress on the bittin account into hackerbittin at googlemail.com ?
>
> But i know all your guys is busy in Whistler atm so its not a hurry maybe my friends mailserver is back up when i am back from Helsinki vacation on Tuesday :)
=)
Dwayne Bailey
Jun 26, 2015, 3:40:55 PM6/26/15
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On 21 June 2015 at 08:29, Emin Mastizada <em...@mastizada.com> wrote:
> The new one is something like transifex clone, also I can't find my
> lovely page, goals (/lang/firefox/goals)
>
Not sure how to respond to that, but thanks ;) (Since this UI is actually
> The new one is something like transifex clone, also I can't find my
> lovely page, goals (/lang/firefox/goals)
>
older the Transifex)
Goals will be back.
They were ready for the upgrade but we hit a performance bottleneck, so it
was easier to deploy the current setup and bring goals back in a week or
two. So just hang in their a little and we'll get goals back. I think
you'll like them even more than the old goals system.
>
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Dwayne Bailey
Jun 26, 2015, 3:46:17 PM6/26/15
to Ibrahima SARR, dev-l10n, Michael Wolf
Hi All,
Some response on checks:
1. The checks are the same as old Pootle, they're just more exposed.
And the only reason they were hidden previously is that they were costly,
we always wanted translators to see them.
2. The only checks exposed on the Browse pages are critical and almost
always should be fixed and almost always are not language specific.
3. The checks on the editor are the same as before. The difference is
that critical checks will block your submission
4. You can Mute a check that does not apply (which you could also do
previously)
5. There are stylistic and functional tests that are likely not relevant
to your language. We can fix and remove those on a language by language
basis but we need to hear which those are and implement that in the code.
These do not block a submission and do not appear on the Browse pages.
They're there to catch silly mistakes such as breaking an acronym, leaving
out quotes, etc. They can be adapted to your language and we do e.g. types
of quotes, but again we need to hear.
Hope that gives some clarity
On 21 June 2015 at 08:19, Ibrahima SARR <ibrahi...@pulaagu.com> wrote:
> Hi Friedel
> Is the new Pootle on Locamotion?
> Yeah Friedel I dislike that too. It might appear as ignorant arrogance for
> English to think if something does not look like, it's probably wrong. I
> have usually wasted a lot of time checking those perfect Fulah strings
> marked as errors.
> Chers
> Ibrahima
>
> 2015-06-21 13:14 GMT+02:00 Michael Wolf <mil...@sorbzilla.de>:
>
Some response on checks:
1. The checks are the same as old Pootle, they're just more exposed.
And the only reason they were hidden previously is that they were costly,
we always wanted translators to see them.
2. The only checks exposed on the Browse pages are critical and almost
always should be fixed and almost always are not language specific.
3. The checks on the editor are the same as before. The difference is
that critical checks will block your submission
4. You can Mute a check that does not apply (which you could also do
previously)
5. There are stylistic and functional tests that are likely not relevant
to your language. We can fix and remove those on a language by language
basis but we need to hear which those are and implement that in the code.
These do not block a submission and do not appear on the Browse pages.
They're there to catch silly mistakes such as breaking an acronym, leaving
out quotes, etc. They can be adapted to your language and we do e.g. types
of quotes, but again we need to hear.
Hope that gives some clarity
On 21 June 2015 at 08:19, Ibrahima SARR <ibrahi...@pulaagu.com> wrote:
> Hi Friedel
> Is the new Pootle on Locamotion?
> Yeah Friedel I dislike that too. It might appear as ignorant arrogance for
> English to think if something does not look like, it's probably wrong. I
> have usually wasted a lot of time checking those perfect Fulah strings
> marked as errors.
> Chers
> Ibrahima
>
> 2015-06-21 13:14 GMT+02:00 Michael Wolf <mil...@sorbzilla.de>:
>
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Emin Mastizada
Jun 26, 2015, 4:08:00 PM6/26/15
to Dwayne Bailey, dev-l10n
Yeah, we tested it together 2 days ago, new goals page is much more
better. Thanks...
On 26.06.2015 12:40, Dwayne Bailey wrote:
> On 21 June 2015 at 08:29, Emin Mastizada <em...@mastizada.com
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better. Thanks...
On 26.06.2015 12:40, Dwayne Bailey wrote:
> On 21 June 2015 at 08:29, Emin Mastizada <em...@mastizada.com
> <mailto:em...@mastizada.com>> wrote:
>
> The new one is something like transifex clone, also I can't find my
> lovely page, goals (/lang/firefox/goals)
>
>
> Not sure how to respond to that, but thanks ;) (Since this UI is
> actually older the Transifex)
>
> Goals will be back.
>
> They were ready for the upgrade but we hit a performance bottleneck,
> so it was easier to deploy the current setup and bring goals back in a
> week or two. So just hang in their a little and we'll get goals
> back. I think you'll like them even more than the old goals system.
>
>
>
> On 21.06.2015 14:14, Michael Wolf wrote:
>
> The new one is something like transifex clone, also I can't find my
> lovely page, goals (/lang/firefox/goals)
>
>
> Not sure how to respond to that, but thanks ;) (Since this UI is
> actually older the Transifex)
>
> Goals will be back.
>
> They were ready for the upgrade but we hit a performance bottleneck,
> so it was easier to deploy the current setup and bring goals back in a
> week or two. So just hang in their a little and we'll get goals
> back. I think you'll like them even more than the old goals system.
>
>
>
> On 21.06.2015 14:14, Michael Wolf wrote:
> > dev-l10n mailing list
> > dev-...@lists.mozilla.org <mailto:dev-...@lists.mozilla.org>
> > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n
>
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> Computer Engineering @ Istanbul Technical University
> Software Developer @ Emlaktown.com
> +90 539 932 6639 <tel:%2B90%20539%20932%206639>
>
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