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qiangq...@gmail.com

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Jan 16, 2014, 4:39:48 AM1/16/14
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I do interested to contribute coding, translating and designing

- Languages I speak:
My mother language is Cantonese, I learn Mandarin in Primary School, English and Malay in High School.
- Cantonese / 廣府話 a.k.a 广东话 (Chinese Traditional)
- Mandarin / 普通话 (Chinese Simplified)
- Malay / Bahasa Malaysia
- British English
- US English

- Country where I reside
Malaysia

- Professional and technical background
I'm a Freelance Programmer, for the past five years I study VB6, VB.NET, VC++ and HTML. I'm working at a Computer Store in Repair & Services Department at Kuala Lumpur. I own these website (www.ran-yong.com, www.smkps.com, www.ran-planet.net) to help each other on pc problems. I also good in Photoshop.

- Why you want to join Mozilla l10n
I love to help people "And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them." Luke 6:31

Michael Bauer

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Jan 16, 2014, 7:07:39 AM1/16/14
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歡迎歡迎!
I think there are translation teams for all those except for Cantonese
and personally I would love to see a Cantonese Firefox. If you're
interested in doing that, I could set that up for you over on the
translation site http://mozilla.locamotion.org/ if you create an account
and let me know what it's called?

Michael

16/01/2014 09:39, sgrìobh qiangq...@gmail.com:

Amirol Ahmad

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Jan 16, 2014, 7:37:39 AM1/16/14
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Hi Qiangqiang,

I'm one of Malaysia Mozilla Member. Are you interested in contributing or
translating to l10n-ms? If so, please subscribe to our mailing list here:
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n-ms.

 

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On Thu 16/01/14 5:39 PM , qiangq...@gmail.com wrote:I do interested to
contribute coding, translating and designing

- Languages I speak:
My mother language is Cantonese, I learn Mandarin in Primary School,
English and Malay in High School.
- Cantonese / 廣府話 a.k.a 广东话 (Chinese Traditional)
- Mandarin / 普通话 (Chinese Simplified)
- Malay / Bahasa Malaysia
- British English
- US English

- Country where I reside
Malaysia

- Professional and technical background
I'm a Freelance Programmer, for the past five years I study VB6, VB.NET,
VC++ and HTML. I'm working at a Computer Store in Repair & Services
Department at Kuala Lumpur. I own these website (http://www.ran-yong.com
[3]" target="_blank">www.ran-yong.com, www.smkps.com, www.ran-planet.net)
to help each other on pc problems. I also good in Photoshop.

- Why you want to join Mozilla l10n
I love to help people "And as you wish that others would do to you, do so
to them." Luke 6:31
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dev-l10n mailing list
dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
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Peter Pin-Guang Chen

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Jan 16, 2014, 7:58:52 AM1/16/14
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Hi Qiangqiang ,

I've heard that Mozilla Hong Kong Community is creating a langpack[1] for
Firefox, you would probably also want to join them.

Sammy, could you make a brief intro for Qiangqiang?

Thanks,

Peter

[1] https://github.com/mozillahk/langpack-zh-HK

Michael Bauer

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Jan 16, 2014, 8:04:32 AM1/16/14
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That's a different locale/language though, that's zh-HK whereas
Cantonese proper would be yue or zh-yue or something. I just had a look
at their langpack and it is indeed Standard Chinese (aka Mandarin) but
for the Hong Kong locale.

Michael

16/01/2014 12:58, sgrìobh Peter Pin-Guang Chen:

Michael Bauer

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Jan 16, 2014, 8:39:13 AM1/16/14
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Hi Sammy,

I honestly can't see that. Take this:
<!ENTITY community.exp.end "。我們一起努力讓網路保持開放,任誰都可隨意使
用。">

I know we can quibble about the details until the cows come home but if
it was Cantonese, this sentence should start with 我哋, not 我們. I have
browsed around in the pack and it all looks like Standard Chinese,
perhaps with a Hong Kong flavour but certainly nothing a linguist would
call Cantonese/Yue.

Michael

16/01/2014 13:33, sgrìobh Sammy Fung:
> Hi,
>
> It's unofficial version and won't go mainstream.
>
> This Hong Kong langpack is aimed to promote open source, translators
> can work on translation for 'just-for-fun'. And it is
> Cantonese-related, not Mandarin. :)
>

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Michael Bauer

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Jan 16, 2014, 8:50:05 AM1/16/14
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Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up!

Michael

16/01/2014 13:45, sgrìobh Sammy Fung:
> Hi, Michael,
>
> It is just initial project starting this month, it was copied from
> Taiwan locale, and most of strings are not translated. :)
>
> And it is not planned to go mainstream due to some concern. :)

Peter Pin-Guang Chen

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Jan 16, 2014, 8:51:51 AM1/16/14
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Michael,

Indeed, It's quite complicated for Chinese language/writing systems, but I
don't think there's a simply zh-yue can satisfy all needs of
Cantonese-speaking users in different countries.

As Qiangqiang indicates that he speaks Cantonese and he knows both
Traditional and Simplified Chinese, I guess the zh-HK's langpack would be
an option for him.

It would be even better if he'd like to make a zh-MY/SG or zh-any locale,
but I'm just giving more options for him to choose.

(And of course, we're happy if he would like to contribute to zh-TW.) :)


Peter


2014/1/16 Michael Bauer <fi...@akerbeltz.org>
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Michael Bauer

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Jan 16, 2014, 9:14:16 AM1/16/14
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Why not, it works on Wikipedia (which also has Gan, Hakka, Wu and Min)?
At least zh-yue would be a starting point. It's a bit like saying that
we can't do Basque because it's split between France and Spain but yet
there it is in all its agglutinating glory.

Michael

16/01/2014 13:51, sgrìobh Peter Pin-Guang Chen:

Peter Pin-Guang Chen

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Jan 16, 2014, 12:24:41 PM1/16/14
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What I mean is that I don't think simply zh-yue would be enough as there're
quite some differences in history and custom for different spoken regions,
and no one could "represent" others. Sadly but true, political problems, a
example is that Wu Chinese is one of my mother tongue but I can hardly read
zh-wuu Wikipedia (even I read Simplified Chinese).

The current easy zh-CN and zh-TW categorization is a workaround for the
larger user groups in my opinion, we (MozTW) do want to promote Mozilla's
mission but we don't want to bring local-specific things to HK or Trad
Chinese users in other regions. I'm happy to see zh-yue-hk, or even
zh-nan-tw/cn locales happen in Mozilla like Wikipedia someday, when
there're much contributors/users.

I'm not familiar with the situation in Basque, they can probably be another
example, though.


Peter


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David Chan

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Jan 16, 2014, 12:44:57 PM1/16/14
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The Cantonese of Hong Kong / Guangzhou serves as a lingua franca across
Yue-speakers, and its use in writing is relatively common, so I think a
single localization would be possible.

One important thing would be to name the language used accurately (e.g.
廣東話口語 / Colloquial Cantonese), as this could avoid a lot of heated
arguments.

Thanks,


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Jan 17, 2014, 4:17:01 AM1/17/14
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胡振强

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Jan 17, 2014, 4:21:30 AM1/17/14
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That's just Chinese Sim to Tra by using Google Translate

胡振强

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Jan 17, 2014, 4:24:59 AM1/17/14
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Don't worry, Malaysian & Singaporean learn Proper Chinese (Mandarin) at school, so Malaysia & Singapore just use zh-CN.
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