Feedback on new installer strings, comments needed?

[Axel Hecht]

Hi,

mind looking at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322206,
attachment
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=662088&action=diff ?

I'm curious, the BLURB strings don't tickle my spider senses as being to
cumbersome to translate, but I figured I'd check in with you guys before
that lands.

Axel

[Eduardo Trápani]

> I'm curious, the BLURB strings don't tickle my spider senses as being to
> cumbersome to translate, but I figured I'd check in with you guys before
> that lands.

The BLURB strings look a bit like the some of the stuff we've done for
the web. I think they're alright. But I'm curious about:

> +INSTALLING_TO_BE_DONE=Installing
> +INSTALLING_IN_PROGRESS=Installing…

When would the first one be shown? I would expect the second one to
appear right away after pressing some 'install' button.

Eduardo.

[Robert Strong]

On 9/18/2012 11:23 AM, Eduardo Trápani wrote:
>> I'm curious, the BLURB strings don't tickle my spider senses as being to
>> cumbersome to translate, but I figured I'd check in with you guys before
>> that lands.

> The BLURB strings look a bit like the some of the stuff we've done for
> the web. I think they're alright. But I'm curious about:
>
>> +INSTALLING_TO_BE_DONE=Installing
>> +INSTALLING_IN_PROGRESS=Installing…
> When would the first one be shown? I would expect the second one to
> appear right away after pressing some 'install' button.

The first is shown prior to the install being done during the download
phase of the stub installer. The second is shown after the download is
finished and the file installation has started.

Robert

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[Mad Maks]

Op 18-09-12 12:49, Axel Hecht schreef:

For dutch is this string not a real problem, we can come with something
similar like we did on one of the web pages

MM

[Archaeopteryx]

The blurbs use "'" once and "’" twice.

I hope you don't expect us to translate this literally:
INTRO_BLURB=Thanks for choosing $BrandFullName, the browser that chooses
you above everything else. Click to install.
As a normal user, I would regard this as marketing bu... to lure me into
installing it ("and why do they want me to do this? Do they have no
better arguments? What will happen to my computer if I install it?")

Archaeopteryx

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Betreff: Feedback on new installer strings, comments needed?
Von: Axel Hecht <l1...@mozilla.com>
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Datum: 2012-09-18 12:49

[Michael Bauer]

It linguistically doesn't work in Gaelic anyway. We have VSO word order
and this particular constructions results in an ambiguity which means it
can both translate as "the browser you choose" or "the browser that
chooses you". So I'd have to translate liberally anyway.

In general, those marketing strings don't sit well with Gaelic, but
that's perhaps down to the lack of marketing in the language in general.
But they just sound very ... boastful which is something that doesn't
sit well with the language so I end up toning them down a little in some
cases. What's appropriate in marketing is very culture specific. In
America you can sell a car by sticking on a nude, in other places that
will just get you a riot. So perhaps these marketing strings would
benefit from a different approach of giving people a list of "points"
they should try and communicate and then leave them to produce natural
translations?

Michael

19/09/2012 10:00, sgrìobh Archaeopteryx:

[Robert Strong]

Thanks for ctaching that and it is likely a copy and paste error from
the strings that were provided. I'll fix prior to checkin.

Robert

[flod]

Question about these strings

SELECT_FOLDER=Select the folder to install Firefox in.
>

Is this Firefox (instead of $BrandShortName) wanted?

Francesco

[Rimas Kudelis]

Hi,

2012.09.19 12:00, Archaeopteryx rašė:
> INTRO_BLURB=Thanks for choosing $BrandFullName, the browser that chooses
> you above everything else. Click to install.

I'm wondering about this string too. Click *what* to install?

Rimas

[Robert Strong]

I brought this to UX including the person that created the copy and this
is the text they decided upon.

I've also cc'd Matej Novak (created this text) to this thread so he can
answer any further questions regarding this.

Cheers,
Robert

[flod]

Maybe a stupid question, but how do we test this? I tried an installer from
latest-mozilla-central but it doesn't seem to use the new strings.

Francesco

[Axel Hecht]

Oy, filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798255

Axel

[Robert Strong]

The l10n build will be fixed as soon as I have some breathing room after I get the current bugs in the stub installer fixed.

Robert