'file' : a verb or a noun?

[Novica Nakov]

I have sort of a general question regarding localization of 'file' in
the main menu in firefox: is the word used as a verb or as a noun?

And also, how other languages translate this?

Thanks.

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novica

[Marcelo Poli]

Novica Nakov escribió:

File, in the main menu is a noun, as in "new file".
It's a standard convention that File and Edit are always the two first
items in the main menu.

[Damjan Georgievski]

>> I have sort of a general question regarding localization of 'file' in
>> the main menu in firefox: is the word used as a verb or as a noun?
>>
>> And also, how other languages translate this?

> File, in the main menu is a noun, as in "new file".

> It's a standard convention that File and Edit are always the two first
> items in the main menu.

Actually that's the source of confusion. "Edit" is a verb, why is "File" a
noun then?!?

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damjan

[Cameron]

File is a noun (as in, print file, save file, import file.) Edit is a verb,
View would be the one I'd have the most trouble deciding on. It seems to be
used as a verb (view page source) and as a noun (reload view.) History,
bookmarks and tools are nouns. Help I'm not sure about.

You could try consulting some other applications in your language for
pointers on this...

~Cameron

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[Damjan Georgievski]

> You could try consulting some other applications in your language for
> pointers on this...

Firefox is the application that's best translated in macedonian.

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[Julen]

On 4/13/07, Cameron <dusty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> File is a noun (as in, print file, save file, import file.) Edit is a verb,
> View would be the one I'd have the most trouble deciding on. It seems to be
> used as a verb (view page source) and as a noun (reload view.) History,
> bookmarks and tools are nouns. Help I'm not sure about.
>

> You could try consulting some other applications in your language for
> pointers on this...
>

> ~Cameron

In our case (eu) there's no doubt:
File: noun
Edit: verb
View: verb
History: noun
Bookmarks: noun
Tools: noun
Help: noun

Julen.

[Marek Stępień]

Novica Nakov pisze:

> I have sort of a general question regarding localization of 'file' in
> the main menu in firefox: is the word used as a verb or as a noun?
>
> And also, how other languages translate this?

In Polish Firefox:

File - a noun ("Plik"),
Edit - an English verb, but in pl we stick to the convention that
translates this into a noun ("Edycja", not really a nice translation,
but used across Windows and Linux since 1994 or so)
View - a noun ("Widok")
History, Bookmarks, Tools, Window, Help - all nouns (Historia,
Zakładki, Narzędzia, Okno, Pomoc)

Things are different in Camino, though, as it sticks to the (IMHO) silly
Polish Mac OS X terminology (making "View" a verb "Zobacz", and turning
"Edit" into plural "Zmiany").

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[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Hi Novica Nakov

In Russian Firefox: File, Edit, View, History, Bookmarks, Tools, Help -
all nouns (Файл, Правка, Вид, Журнал, Закладки, Инструменты, Справка)

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[Marion Gunn]

Similarly in Irish Firefox - our team chose to use all nouns: Comhad,
Eagar, Amharc, Stair, Leabharmharcanna, Uirlisí, Cabhair.
mg

On 14 Apr 2007, at 17:10, scríobh Alexander L. Slovesnik:

> Hi Novica Nakov
> 13.04.2007 20:20 you wrote:
>
>> I have sort of a general question regarding localization of 'file' in
>> the main menu in firefox: is the word used as a verb or as a noun?
>>

>> And also, how other languages translate this?...

>
> In Russian Firefox: File, Edit, View, History, Bookmarks, Tools,
> Help -
> all nouns (Файл, Правка, Вид, Журнал,
> Закладки, Инструменты, Справка)

- -
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27 Páirc an Fhéithlinn, Baile an
Bhóthair, Co. Átha Cliath, Éire.
* mg...@egt.ie * eam...@egt.ie *

[Gervase Markham]

Julen wrote:
> In our case (eu) there's no doubt:
> File: noun
> Edit: verb
> View: verb
> History: noun
> Bookmarks: noun
> Tools: noun
> Help: noun

I'd agree with that. File is a noun (the operations relate to the
currently viewed File - think of a word processor) and View is a verb
(View the toolbar, View the source).

Gerv

[pascal chevrel]

Le 13/04/2007 18:20, Novica Nakov a ecrit :

> I have sort of a general question regarding localization of 'file' in
> the main menu in firefox: is the word used as a verb or as a noun?
>
> And also, how other languages translate this?
>

In French it's all translated with nouns because it sounds better in our
language this way and also to follow the general consensus in French
Software but what is more important is that the translation is correct
in your language, not that you follow the verb/noun choices in English.

Pascal

[Giuliano Masseroni]

In Italian we use File. No translation is needed.

Cheers,
Giuliano
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