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Merike Sell

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Sep 25, 2008, 7:23:36 AM9/25/08
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Hi,

It was impossible to include et for 0.9 as there were no dom, toolkit
etc in repository.

However, I just noticed that it has been pushed to l10n-central:
http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/et/pushloghtml?&enddate=now&path=/&startdate=1+month+ago

Does this mean it would be meaningful to push calendar folder now?

Simon Paquet

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Sep 29, 2008, 5:14:24 PM9/29/08
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Merike Sell wrote:

Yes, please push your calendar localization to hg, if it is ready.
However for the longer run, it doesn't make much sense to have calendar
localization without having a corresponding Thunderbird localization,
given the integration plans of Thunderbird and Lightning (see my latest
post here in and our long-term planning for Sunbird.

So, what I'd like to know is, do you have any plans for localizing
Thunderbird as well?

Simon Paquet
--
Thunderbird/Calendar Localisation (L10n) Coordinator
Calendar website maintainer: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar
Calendar developer blog: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar

Merike Sell

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Sep 30, 2008, 2:38:15 PM9/30/08
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Simon Paquet kirjutas:

> Merike Sell wrote:
>
>> It was impossible to include et for 0.9 as there were no dom,
>> toolkit etc in repository.
>>
>> However, I just noticed that it has been pushed to l10n-central:
>> http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/et/pushloghtml?&enddate=now&path=/&startdate=1+month+ago
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Does this mean it would be meaningful to push calendar folder now?
>
> Yes, please push your calendar localization to hg, if it is ready.
> However for the longer run, it doesn't make much sense to have
> calendar localization without having a corresponding Thunderbird
> localization, given the integration plans of Thunderbird and
> Lightning (see my latest post here in and our long-term planning for
> Sunbird.
>
Wouldn't having calendar translation only still let people get localized
Sunbird?

> So, what I'd like to know is, do you have any plans for localizing
> Thunderbird as well?
>
> Simon Paquet

Estonian has language pack for TB 2. How many strings is the difference
between 2 and 3 approximately? If it is a matter of getting langpack to
a different folder structure and minor translating (I guess langpack
misses (un)installation strings?) then it shouldn't be an issue at all.

Simon Paquet

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Sep 30, 2008, 4:24:25 PM9/30/08
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Merike Sell wrote:

>> Yes, please push your calendar localization to hg, if it is ready.
>> However for the longer run, it doesn't make much sense to have
>> calendar localization without having a corresponding Thunderbird
>> localization, given the integration plans of Thunderbird and
>> Lightning (see my latest post here in and our long-term planning for
>> Sunbird.
>>
>Wouldn't having calendar translation only still let people get localized
>Sunbird?

Short-term yes, long-term probably no. I can't tell you more right now,
because a lot of things are in flux right now.

>> So, what I'd like to know is, do you have any plans for localizing
>> Thunderbird as well?
>

>Estonian has language pack for TB 2. How many strings is the difference
>between 2 and 3 approximately? If it is a matter of getting langpack to
>a different folder structure and minor translating (I guess langpack
>misses (un)installation strings?) then it shouldn't be an issue at all.

There are certainly some differences between the current TB3 string
landscape and the string landscape of the TB2 builds.

What I would recommend is to push your mail/ and editor/ui/ translation
to l10n-central/et as well and then open up a bug (assigned to me) to add
et as a supported TB locale. That will get you on our dashboard, which
will tell you exactly how much work it would be, to be ready for TB3.

Merike Sell

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:01:53 PM10/4/08
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Simon Paquet kirjutas:

> Merike Sell wrote:
>
>>> Yes, please push your calendar localization to hg, if it is ready.
>>> However for the longer run, it doesn't make much sense to have
>>> calendar localization without having a corresponding Thunderbird
>>> localization, given the integration plans of Thunderbird and
>>> Lightning (see my latest post here in and our long-term planning for
>>> Sunbird.
>>>
>> Wouldn't having calendar translation only still let people get localized
>> Sunbird?
>
> Short-term yes, long-term probably no. I can't tell you more right now,
> because a lot of things are in flux right now.
>
>>> So, what I'd like to know is, do you have any plans for localizing
>>> Thunderbird as well?
>> Estonian has language pack for TB 2. How many strings is the difference
>> between 2 and 3 approximately? If it is a matter of getting langpack to
>> a different folder structure and minor translating (I guess langpack
>> misses (un)installation strings?) then it shouldn't be an issue at all.
>
> There are certainly some differences between the current TB3 string
> landscape and the string landscape of the TB2 builds.
>
> What I would recommend is to push your mail/ and editor/ui/ translation
> to l10n-central/et as well and then open up a bug (assigned to me) to add
> et as a supported TB locale. That will get you on our dashboard, which
> will tell you exactly how much work it would be, to be ready for TB3.
>
> Simon Paquet

Would it be possible to first solve bug #453422 and get calendar on l10n
dashboard? Or do you only get calendar there if you have tb as well?

I checked out calendar and et translation from hg and added calendar
files locally and it turned out that to get calendar to compile et only
misses two files currently:

.../l10n/et/toolkit/chrome/search/search.properties
.../l10n/et/security/manager/chrome/pippki/validation.dtd

Those are not much to translate and I could have them in a week or so. I
don't have hg access myself, so somebody would need to do it for me.

Compare-locales gives a little bit different results though, for those
two files there are no lines in the output. All in all obsolete 17 and
missing 40. Uploaded version of translation has one error as well since
I noticed it only now.

Simon Paquet

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Oct 6, 2008, 3:46:11 AM10/6/08
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Merike Sell wrote on 04. Oct 2008:

> Would it be possible to first solve bug #453422 and get calendar on
> l10n dashboard? Or do you only get calendar there if you have tb as
> well?

I've pushed your localization to hg. Since yesterday evening you're
also listed on http://l10n.mozillamessaging.com/dashboard/

> I checked out calendar and et translation from hg and added
> calendar files locally and it turned out that to get calendar to
> compile et only misses two files currently:
>

> ..../l10n/et/toolkit/chrome/search/search.properties
> ..../l10n/et/security/manager/chrome/pippki/validation.dtd


>
> Those are not much to translate and I could have them in a week
> or so. I don't have hg access myself, so somebody would need to
> do it for me.

You really should apply for hg access. I can't do all the commits
and pushes for you long-term.

> Compare-locales gives a little bit different results though, for
> those two files there are no lines in the output. All in all
> obsolete 17 and missing 40. Uploaded version of translation has
> one error as well since I noticed it only now.

Current status as shown on:
http://l10n.mozillamessaging.com/buildbot/compare/hg-langpack/14839

- 86 strings missing
- 47 strings missing in existing files
- 39 strings missing in new files
- 1 error
- 42 obsolete strings in existing files
- 7 obsolete string files

Cya
Simon

--
Thunderbird/Calendar Localization (L10n) Coordinator

Merike Sell

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Oct 7, 2008, 1:18:13 PM10/7/08
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Simon Paquet kirjutas:

> Merike Sell wrote on 04. Oct 2008:
>
>> Would it be possible to first solve bug #453422 and get calendar on
>> l10n dashboard? Or do you only get calendar there if you have tb as well?
>
> I've pushed your localization to hg. Since yesterday evening you're
> also listed on http://l10n.mozillamessaging.com/dashboard/
>

Thank you!

>> I checked out calendar and et translation from hg and added calendar
>> files locally and it turned out that to get calendar to compile et
>> only misses two files currently:
>>
>> ..../l10n/et/toolkit/chrome/search/search.properties
>> ..../l10n/et/security/manager/chrome/pippki/validation.dtd
>>
>> Those are not much to translate and I could have them in a week or so.
>> I don't have hg access myself, so somebody would need to do it for me.
>
> You really should apply for hg access. I can't do all the commits
> and pushes for you long-term.

I'll certainly consider that.

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