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John Karahalis
May 30, 2018, 9:00:13 PM5/30/18
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I used to be a pretty active user of Mozilla Stumbler. I would run the app
almost all the time and intentionally drive around unmapped areas.
I've become less active over time because it's been a while since I've
heard about the project. Is Mozilla Stumbler still alive? Is the data it
collects still useful? I'd be happy to start contributing again if it would
be helpful.
--
John Karahalis
Mozilla
openjck.com
almost all the time and intentionally drive around unmapped areas.
I've become less active over time because it's been a while since I've
heard about the project. Is Mozilla Stumbler still alive? Is the data it
collects still useful? I'd be happy to start contributing again if it would
be helpful.
--
John Karahalis
Mozilla
openjck.com
Myk Melez
May 31, 2018, 11:35:17 AM5/31/18
to Discussion about Geo location services, John Karahalis, Mike Kaply
> John Karahalis <mailto:jkara...@mozilla.com>
> May 30, 2018 at 17:59
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1422139>, the project is
no longer maintained. cc: Mike Kaply in case he has more insight.
-myk
Garvan Keeley
May 31, 2018, 11:41:27 AM5/31/18
to Discussion about Geo location services
Stumbler contribution metrics were watched closely until Firefox Android MLS collection scaled up to a point where it was providing nearly all of the collection. AFAIK, these metrics are no longer maintained.
As for the future of Stumbler, that is a good question, I don’t have any info on that.
> On May 30, 2018, at 8:59 PM, John Karahalis <jkara...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> I used to be a pretty active user of Mozilla Stumbler. I would run the app
> almost all the time and intentionally drive around unmapped areas.
>
> I've become less active over time because it's been a while since I've
> heard about the project. Is Mozilla Stumbler still alive? Is the data it
> collects still useful? I'd be happy to start contributing again if it would
> be helpful.
>
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As for the future of Stumbler, that is a good question, I don’t have any info on that.
> On May 30, 2018, at 8:59 PM, John Karahalis <jkara...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> I used to be a pretty active user of Mozilla Stumbler. I would run the app
> almost all the time and intentionally drive around unmapped areas.
>
> I've become less active over time because it's been a while since I've
> heard about the project. Is Mozilla Stumbler still alive? Is the data it
> collects still useful? I'd be happy to start contributing again if it would
> be helpful.
>
> dev-geolocation mailing list
> dev-geo...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-geolocation
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
May 31, 2018, 12:02:03 PM5/31/18
to Discussion about Geo location services, Mike Kaply, John Karahalis
Hi John,
On 31 May 2018 at 17:23, Myk Melez <m...@mykzilla.org> wrote:
>
>> John Karahalis <mailto:jkara...@mozilla.com>
>> May 30, 2018 at 17:59
--
Regards,
Zeeshan Ali
On 31 May 2018 at 17:23, Myk Melez <m...@mykzilla.org> wrote:
>
>> John Karahalis <mailto:jkara...@mozilla.com>
>> May 30, 2018 at 17:59
>> I used to be a pretty active user of Mozilla Stumbler. I would run the app
>> almost all the time and intentionally drive around unmapped areas.
>>
>> I've become less active over time because it's been a while since I've
>> heard about the project. Is Mozilla Stumbler still alive? Is the data it
>> collects still useful? I'd be happy to start contributing again if it
>> would
>> be helpful.
>
>> almost all the time and intentionally drive around unmapped areas.
>>
>> I've become less active over time because it's been a while since I've
>> heard about the project. Is Mozilla Stumbler still alive? Is the data it
>> collects still useful? I'd be happy to start contributing again if it
>> would
>> be helpful.
>
> According to bug 1422139
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1422139>, the project is no
> longer maintained. cc: Mike Kaply in case he has more insight.
That's about the stumbler code in firefox though, not the app?
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1422139>, the project is no
> longer maintained. cc: Mike Kaply in case he has more insight.
--
Regards,
Zeeshan Ali
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
May 31, 2018, 12:05:10 PM5/31/18
to Discussion about Geo location services, Mike Kaply, John Karahalis
On 31 May 2018 at 17:44, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <zees...@gnome.org> wrote:
> Hi John,
Sorry, I meant Myk. :)
--
Regards,
Zeeshan Ali
> Hi John,
Sorry, I meant Myk. :)
Regards,
Zeeshan Ali
John Karahalis
May 31, 2018, 4:44:41 PM5/31/18
to Mike Kaply, Discussion about Geo location services, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Fair enough. How about the data itself? Even if the app isn't getting new
features or bug fixes, is the data it collects still useful? Should I keep
stumbling?
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Mike Kaply <mka...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> I honestly don't know. I only know that I was told that the code was
> unsupported in Fennec (I don't remember who I talked to).
>
> The app itself hasn't seen any changes for at least a year:
>
> https://github.com/mozilla/MozStumbler
>
> and has 189 open issues.
>
> That seems very unmaintained.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <
features or bug fixes, is the data it collects still useful? Should I keep
stumbling?
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Mike Kaply <mka...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> I honestly don't know. I only know that I was told that the code was
> unsupported in Fennec (I don't remember who I talked to).
>
> The app itself hasn't seen any changes for at least a year:
>
> https://github.com/mozilla/MozStumbler
>
> and has 189 open issues.
>
> That seems very unmaintained.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <
Victor Ng
May 31, 2018, 5:56:26 PM5/31/18
to Discussion about Geo location services
Hi John,
You can keep stumbling - we do collect data from android stumbler clients
still.
The practical reality is - the aggregate data collection by Firefox Android
users completely overwhelms the contributions made by the dedicated
stumbler app.
We are slowly decommissioning parts of the stumbler though - the
leaderboard in particular is scheduled to be shutdown in the near future.
Vic
On Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:00 PM John Karahalis <jkara...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> I used to be a pretty active user of Mozilla Stumbler. I would run the app
> almost all the time and intentionally drive around unmapped areas.
>
> I've become less active over time because it's been a while since I've
> heard about the project. Is Mozilla Stumbler still alive? Is the data it
> collects still useful? I'd be happy to start contributing again if it would
> be helpful.
>
You can keep stumbling - we do collect data from android stumbler clients
still.
The practical reality is - the aggregate data collection by Firefox Android
users completely overwhelms the contributions made by the dedicated
stumbler app.
We are slowly decommissioning parts of the stumbler though - the
leaderboard in particular is scheduled to be shutdown in the near future.
Vic
On Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:00 PM John Karahalis <jkara...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> I used to be a pretty active user of Mozilla Stumbler. I would run the app
> almost all the time and intentionally drive around unmapped areas.
>
> I've become less active over time because it's been a while since I've
> heard about the project. Is Mozilla Stumbler still alive? Is the data it
> collects still useful? I'd be happy to start contributing again if it would
> be helpful.
>
Myk Melez
May 31, 2018, 7:24:27 PM5/31/18
to Discussion about Geo location services, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak), Mike Kaply, John Karahalis
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <mailto:zees...@gnome.org>
> May 31, 2018 at 08:44
> Hi John,
>
> That's about the stumbler code in firefox though, not the app?
Yes, that bug is about the Stumbler code in Firefox, not the Stumbler
> That's about the stumbler code in firefox though, not the app?
app. I don't know the status of the app.
-myk
Felix Baumann
Jun 1, 2018, 3:28:51 AM6/1/18
to Discussion about Geo location services
Hi,
I thought the leaderboard is down already :confused: ^^
I couldn't find it lately.
Or are you talking about the statistics page?
When was the cooperation with open cell shutdown? (they aren't mentioned anymore on the statistics page)
I was always wondering why the Firefox app works so well. Does it collect the data in the background, too? (when you aren't browsing but have something like Google maps open)
Does it work with a hook (passively) or does it pull (actively) to get new info on GPS and the rest?
Regards,
Felix
I thought the leaderboard is down already :confused: ^^
I couldn't find it lately.
Or are you talking about the statistics page?
When was the cooperation with open cell shutdown? (they aren't mentioned anymore on the statistics page)
I was always wondering why the Firefox app works so well. Does it collect the data in the background, too? (when you aren't browsing but have something like Google maps open)
Does it work with a hook (passively) or does it pull (actively) to get new info on GPS and the rest?
Regards,
Felix
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