KaiOS Technologies and Mozilla partner to enable a healthy mobile internet for everyone

[Gabriele Svelto]

This was just announced:

https://www.kaiostech.com/press/kaios-technologies-and-mozilla-partner-to-enable-a-healthy-mobile-internet-for-everyone/

[Dietrich Ayala]

Wow, this will be interesting!

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:43 AM Gabriele Svelto <gsv...@mozilla.com> wrote:

This was just announced:

https://www.kaiostech.com/press/kaios-technologies-and-mozilla-partner-to-enable-a-healthy-mobile-internet-for-everyone/

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[Mad Billy]

Indeed, and in a good way! Great to have some positive and optimistic news in the floss world 😃

[paul.aguil...@hotmail.com]

Well, just waiting for the public announcement from Mozilla :)

Hoping this going well :D

P.

El 11 mar 2020 13:36, Mad Billy <madb...@gmail.com> escribió:

Indeed, and in a good way! Great to have some positive and optimistic news in the floss world 😃

[David Teller]

Now I want to install Firefox^H^H^H^H^H^H^HKaiOS on my new phone! :)

[Gabriela Montagu]

Would this mean we could be able to update our Flames devices any time soon?

Many thanks!
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[Sameer Verma]

I still have my Geeksphone Peak phone.

Any chance of installing something like this on the Peak? Curious.

Sameer

[April Morone]

Very awesome of this.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 10:43 AM Gabriele Svelto <gsv...@mozilla.com> wrote:

This was just announced:

https://www.kaiostech.com/press/kaios-technologies-and-mozilla-partner-to-enable-a-healthy-mobile-internet-for-everyone/

[Gabriele Svelto]

To everybody asking: this won't run on old phones for a number of reasons

Gabriele

[Chokri Khalifa]

Can I install it on my Nexus as custom boot ?

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:51 AM Gabriele Svelto <gsv...@mozilla.com> wrote:

To everybody asking: this won't run on old phones for a number of reasons

 Gabriele

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[Eduardo Trápani]

On 12/3/20 04:50, Gabriele Svelto wrote:
> To everybody asking: this won't run on old phones for a number of reasons

Do you know where we could get more information on that? (current
requirements, porting, localization ...)

Would a Flame be considered too old for that? Or a Flatfish? (I'm still
using that one with Android).

[Gabriela Montagu]

Very sad to know this.... :(

El jue., 12 de mar. de 2020 a la(s) 04:51, Gabriele Svelto (gsv...@mozilla.com) escribió:

To everybody asking: this won't run on old phones for a number of reasons

[Gabriele Svelto]

Hello Eduardo,

On 12/03/2020 16:09, Eduardo Trápani wrote:
> Do you know where we could get more information on that? (current
> requirements, porting, localization ...)
>
> Would a Flame be considered too old for that? Or a Flatfish? (I'm still
> using that one with Android).

the goal of the project at the moment is to help KaiOS update their
system and phones to a modern Gecko. While KaiOS is a fork of Firefox OS
it's very different; it's designed to work on smart feature phones with
physical keyboards. Old Firefox OS phones are certainly incompatible
with it.

However if you're looking for a system to modernize your old devices I
recommend trying PostmarketOS [1] which is a fantastic, community-driven
effort.

Gabriele

[1] https://www.postmarketos.org/

[Eduardo Trápani]

> the goal of the project at the moment is to help KaiOS update their
> system and phones to a modern Gecko. While KaiOS is a fork of Firefox OS
> it's very different; it's designed to work on smart feature phones with
> physical keyboards. Old Firefox OS phones are certainly incompatible
> with it.

Is that it the real blocker? I mean, somebody will probably be
willing/able to "fake" the keyboard ...

But anyway, say I buy a KaiOS device now, would I be able to build from
source (except driver blobs), install it and start experimenting? I
guess Mozilla will release the code later, but right now, and given this
partnership, is it possible?

> However if you're looking for a system to modernize your old devices I
> recommend trying PostmarketOS [1] which is a fantastic, community-driven
> effort.

My flame used to boot alright with it, but it's not going to make calls
anytime soon ...

I also recommend it for people trying to inject new life in old devices.
It's a great project.

[Gabriele Svelto]

On 12/03/2020 21:45, Eduardo Trápani wrote:
> Is that it the real blocker? I mean, somebody will probably be
> willing/able to "fake" the keyboard ...

I can't speak for KaiOS since I don't know all the details of their
stack, but even pure Gecko wouldn't be able to run anymore on a Flame
because the version of Android it was based on is too old.

> But anyway, say I buy a KaiOS device now, would I be able to build from
> source (except driver blobs), install it and start experimenting? I
> guess Mozilla will release the code later, but right now, and given this
> partnership, is it possible?

Mozilla code will be released under the MPL as usual. I don't know
what's the situation with the KaiOS sources, you'd have to ask them.

Gabriele