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Merging dev-gaia and dev-b2g into dev-fxos

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Michael Henretty

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Aug 27, 2015, 10:47:49 AM8/27/15
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Hello people of Firefox OS,

After a discussion we have decided that the distinction between dev-gaia and dev-b2g mailing lists is not enough to warrant maintaining two lists. So we are deprecating both in favor of dev-fxos. So if you are subscribed to one of the aforementioned lists, you will be subscribed to the new dev-fxos list and we will shortly be decommissioning dev-gaia and dev-b2g.

Thanks!
Michael

Kevin Grandon

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Aug 27, 2015, 11:07:56 AM8/27/15
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+1 - thanks for taking care of that. Less mailing list friction = one less confusing thing for contributors.

Seems like we should also merge IRC channels into #fxos?



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Michael Henretty

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Aug 27, 2015, 11:10:41 AM8/27/15
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Agreed about merging the IRC channels.

Gregor brought up a good point about dev-gaia and dev-b2g, that we should leave them open to allow people to post there so we can push them over to use dev-fxos. Then we can mark dev-gaia and dev-b2g as read-only in a week or too.

We will also need to update documentation (README, MDN) to point to the new mailing list and IRC channel.

Chris Mills

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Aug 27, 2015, 11:46:26 AM8/27/15
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> On 27 Aug 2015, at 16:10, Michael Henretty <mhen...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> Agreed about merging the IRC channels.
>
> Gregor brought up a good point about dev-gaia and dev-b2g, that we should leave them open to allow people to post there so we can push them over to use dev-fxos. Then we can mark dev-gaia and dev-b2g as read-only in a week or too.
>
> We will also need to update documentation (README, MDN) to point to the new mailing list and IRC channel.

I’ve already updated the community box at the bottom of

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS

to point to the new list. Is the new IRC just going to be #fxos? Is this created yet?

Also, I assumed there would be a google group at

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.dev.fxos

to go along with the new mailing list, but this doesn’t seem to exist.

J. Ryan Stinnett

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Aug 27, 2015, 11:59:53 AM8/27/15
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Chris Mills <cmi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> Also, I assumed there would be a google group at
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.dev.fxos
>
> to go along with the new mailing list, but this doesn’t seem to exist.

It seems the list is currently configured to use mailman style archives:

https://lists.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-fxos/

Not sure if that's a bug.

Also, the list seems to be hidden from the mailing list overview page:

https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo

- Ryan

Michael Henretty

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Aug 27, 2015, 12:03:01 PM8/27/15
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:59 PM, J. Ryan Stinnett <jry...@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems the list is currently configured to use mailman style archives:

https://lists.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-fxos/


I'm not sure what that mean. Does this mean it's not tracked by the google group?

Yeah, we need to update this to be shown on the mailing list overview page. I'll ping servicedesk about that.

Robert Kaiser

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Aug 27, 2015, 12:07:30 PM8/27/15
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Chris Mills schrieb:
> Also, I assumed there would be a google group at
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.dev.fxos
>
> to go along with the new mailing list, but this doesn’t seem to exist.

I hope it will be configured to be there (and on NNTP/news.m.o), as I'm
exclusively reading those lists via NNTP, where it's easy to only glance
over things when I actually have time, and without inbox/email clutter.

KaiRo


J. Ryan Stinnett

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Aug 27, 2015, 12:08:53 PM8/27/15
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I am guessing there is no Google Group currently.

Other lists like dev-b2g link to Google Groups from list summary page:

https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g

Maybe it's the wrong setup request? Service now says: "For a
Discussion Forum, which can be created as a mailing list on
lists.mozilla.org, a newsgroup on news.mozilla.org or a public Google
Group, please use this link:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&format=mozlist".
I believe that's the desired list type, to match dev-b2g / dev-gaia.

- Ryan

Michael Henretty

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Aug 27, 2015, 2:02:22 PM8/27/15
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:08 PM, J. Ryan Stinnett <jry...@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe it's the wrong setup request? Service now says: "For a
Discussion Forum, which can be created as a mailing list on
lists.mozilla.org, a newsgroup on news.mozilla.org or a public Google
Group, please use this link:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&format=mozlist".
I believe that's the desired list type, to match dev-b2g / dev-gaia.


Yup, I created the wrong type of list. Jen Hayashhi is helping me fix this [1] (thanks Jen!). I'll keep you all updated.

1.) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199334

Axel Hecht

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Aug 27, 2015, 4:47:57 PM8/27/15
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On 8/27/15 8:02 PM, Michael Henretty wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:08 PM, J. Ryan Stinnett <jry...@gmail.com
> <mailto:jry...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's the wrong setup request? Service now says: "For a
> Discussion Forum, which can be created as a mailing list on
> lists.mozilla.org <http://lists.mozilla.org>, a newsgroup on
> news.mozilla.org <http://news.mozilla.org> or a public Google
> Group, please use this link:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&format=mozlist".
> I believe that's the desired list type, to match dev-b2g / dev-gaia.
>
>
>
> Yup, I created the wrong type of list. Jen Hayashhi is helping me fix
> this [1] (thanks Jen!). I'll keep you all updated.
>
> 1.) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199334

Note, it takes a while for google to get these up, usually in the 1+week
timeframe.

Axel

Gervase Markham

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Aug 27, 2015, 5:08:10 PM8/27/15
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On 27/08/15 09:08, J. Ryan Stinnett wrote:
> Maybe it's the wrong setup request? Service now says: "For a
> Discussion Forum, which can be created as a mailing list on
> lists.mozilla.org, a newsgroup on news.mozilla.org or a public Google
> Group, please use this link:

Oops, that's a bit busted. It should say "_and_ a public Google Group".
You get all three.

Gerv


Sai Karthik

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Aug 28, 2015, 1:18:17 AM8/28/15
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Merging IRC channels to #fxos is a good idea.

Michael Henretty

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Sep 1, 2015, 5:15:20 AM9/1/15
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Just as an update here, we've creating the proper type of mailing list, and we are just waiting on google groups to be ready. At that point we will start moving away from dev-gaia and dev-b2g, and we will merge the IRC channels.

Thanks for your patience!
Michael

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Sai Karthik <kskar...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 8:40:41 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Henretty wrote:
Merging IRC channels to #fxos is a good idea.

Sai Karthik

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Sep 2, 2015, 2:41:13 AM9/2/15
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Okay, what would be the name of the new IRC channel ?

Michael Henretty

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Sep 2, 2015, 3:48:26 AM9/2/15
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#fxos

You can go ahead and join this now if you like :)

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Sai Karthik <kskar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, what would be the name of the new IRC channel ?

Michael Henretty

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Sep 8, 2015, 7:31:12 AM9/8/15
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As an update here, it looks like we are now persisting to Google Groups for dev-fxos [1]. Please move all discussions over there from now on. In the meantime, I have filed bug 1202640 [2] to make dev-gaia and dev-b2g read-only.

Thanks,
Michael

1.) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.dev.fxos
2.) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1202640

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Michael Henretty <mhen...@mozilla.com> wrote:
#fxos

You can go ahead and join this now if you like :)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Sai Karthik <kskar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, what would be the name of the new IRC channel ?

Chris Mills

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Sep 8, 2015, 7:49:14 AM9/8/15
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cool. I’ve updated the community box at the bottom of

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS

with the new details.

Chris Mills
Senior tech writer || Mozilla
developer.mozilla.org || MDN
cmi...@mozilla.com || @chrisdavidmills



> On 8 Sep 2015, at 12:31, Michael Henretty <mhen...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> As an update here, it looks like we are now persisting to Google Groups for dev-fxos [1]. Please move all discussions over there from now on. In the meantime, I have filed bug 1202640 [2] to make dev-gaia and dev-b2g read-only.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> 1.) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.dev.fxos
> 2.) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1202640
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Michael Henretty <mhen...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> #fxos
>
> You can go ahead and join this now if you like :)
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Sai Karthik <kskar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, what would be the name of the new IRC channel ?
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