saved search for subfolders/archive feature

[Michael J Gruber]

Hi there,

is there any (existing or planned) way to have saved searches search in
subfolders recursively?

I can save a search which does that, of course, but this saves the
current tree of subfolders. New subfolders which are added later do not
become part of the search (current Shredder).

I think that feature would be important especially in connection with
the new archive feature, which creates new subfolders for each month. I
reckon many people would set up new saved search folders (replacing
their old style folders) which should sift through Inbox and all below
Archive.

Michael

[Kent James]

On 2/26/2009 6:54 AM, Michael J Gruber wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> is there any (existing or planned) way to have saved searches search in
> subfolders recursively?
>

I agree with you that this is a real need, but there is no plan for
doing this than I am aware of in the version three time frame.

rkent

[David Ascher]

True, except that gloda-based searches are designed to be cross-folder.
It's a different model, but it should alleviate the 'where in the
archive' is my message.

--david

[Kent James]

On 2/26/2009 11:45 AM, David Ascher wrote:
>
> True, except that gloda-based searches are designed to be cross-folder.
> It's a different model, but it should alleviate the 'where in the
> archive' is my message.
>
> --david

When I hear "saved searches" I assume that we are talking about virtual
folders, which are solving a different set of problems than "where in
the archive" kinds of searches. Maybe that is my personal bias, because
I use virtual folders constantly, but rarely do general searches.

Or is there some plan to add gloda-based virtual folders that I am
unaware of?

The subfolder issue in virtual folders does not affect me much
personally, as I use a single local store for the vast majority of my
emails, and categorize with tags and virtual folders. Archiving though
does create a new set of problems which we really need to address,
particularly for those of us who rely on virtual rather than real folders.

-- rkent

[David Ascher]

On 2/26/09 11:56 AM, Kent James wrote:
> On 2/26/2009 11:45 AM, David Ascher wrote:
>>
>> True, except that gloda-based searches are designed to be cross-folder.
>> It's a different model, but it should alleviate the 'where in the
>> archive' is my message.
>>
>> --david
>
> When I hear "saved searches" I assume that we are talking about
> virtual folders, which are solving a different set of problems than
> "where in the archive" kinds of searches. Maybe that is my personal
> bias, because I use virtual folders constantly, but rarely do general
> searches.
>
> Or is there some plan to add gloda-based virtual folders that I am
> unaware of?

We do want to be able to save gloda based searches (which render in
msgdbview views). Unfortunately, I can't find a bug covering that. The
main gloda search bug in this regard is bug 474701.

> The subfolder issue in virtual folders does not affect me much
> personally, as I use a single local store for the vast majority of my
> emails, and categorize with tags and virtual folders. Archiving though
> does create a new set of problems which we really need to address,
> particularly for those of us who rely on virtual rather than real
> folders.

I'm sure -- It'd be good to get more explicit about those problems and
file bugs on them.

--david

[Wayne Mery]

Saved searches are interesting beasts.

What you are looking for is Bug 343243 - saved search cannot use saved
search as source - which is not easily found. Your first challenge is to
improve the summary! :)

[Kent James]

On 2/26/2009 12:22 PM, Wayne Mery wrote:
>
> What you are looking for is Bug 343243 - saved search cannot use saved
> search as source - which is not easily found. Your first challenge is to
> improve the summary! :)
>

That bug is dealing with a slightly different issue, that virtual
folders are not really folders, and so not all folder operations apply
to them. The issue that I believe we are discussing here is different,
that the definitions of virtual filters are not updated when different
things happen with folders. That has a variety of ways of appearing,
such as bugs 352737, 307343, and 460918.

-- rkent

[Michael J Gruber]

David Ascher venit, vidit, dixit 26.02.2009 21:12:

For now, I think I'd be happy with being able to have the "Archive" as a
single folder without subfolders such that saved searches can take
advantage of it. I can do that by not using the TB3 feature and using
the GmailUI extension instead...

In any case, thanks for your insights. Now I know I haven't overlooked
anything and my use case is on the radar.

Michael