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Ludovic Hirlimann

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Oct 23, 2009, 9:22:44 AM10/23/09
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Hi Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, Lightning users

We are one and a half weeks away, if the developers stay on schedule,
before we get
builds for the first RC. Like I did for Thunderbird 3.0b4, I'd like to
get some people willing to spend from 20 minutes to one hours testing
the builds and reporting it in Litmus.

For the last round of testing we ended up with 10/12 volunteers signing
up and almost all of them showing and doing tests. I'd like to thank
them publicly because without them we wouldn't have felt sure that our
build was good. Since then we had the upgrade from earlier version test
day which found a few bugs.

The next round is testing RC1 - which if quality is there , might become
the final Thunderbird 3.0 build. To make sure That we are going to test
it as much as can be, this time instead of having a BFT we'll test using
FFT. This doubles the numbers of tests that need to be run in order to
get 100% coverage. This also mean that getting more people on board will
seriously help reduce the time needed to complete the tests.

Last time I forgot to ask what people were interested in, so this time
to sign up you'll need to send me an email, with following information :

* What kind of account you have access to (POP, Imap, SSL, RSS, NNTP)
* What kind of OS you want to test on (Linux, Windows Vista, Windows
XP, Mac OS (version)/Intel/PPC,OpenSolaris x86, Solaris /Sparc)
* What would you have interest in testing (if there are thing you
don't want/ can't test let me know too)

You will also need to have a account on Litmus and an account on Bugzilla.


With that I'll build a list of things that I would like you to test and
will send you a personal email when the starting effort starts with all
the needed information.

Ludovic
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Ludovic Hirlimann MozillaMessaging QA lead
http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/aff/79/2

Terry R.

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Oct 23, 2009, 12:55:26 PM10/23/09
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On 10/23/2009 6:22 AM On a whim, Ludovic Hirlimann pounded out on the
keyboard

As soon as they enable JS, I'd test it. Not otherwise...

Terry R.
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Goran Marinic

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Oct 23, 2009, 6:47:44 PM10/23/09
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Ludovic Hirlimann wrote:
>
> * What kind of account you have access to (POP, Imap, SSL, RSS, NNTP)

POP, SSL, RSS, NNTP.

I'm not in position to test IMAP at the moment, although I hope to move
to that configuration soon.

> * What kind of OS you want to test on (Linux, Windows Vista, Windows
> XP, Mac OS (version)/Intel/PPC,OpenSolaris x86, Solaris /Sparc)

XP

Nathan Tuggy

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Oct 24, 2009, 1:17:49 AM10/24/09
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On 2009-10-23 06:22, Ludovic Hirlimann wrote:
> Like I did for Thunderbird 3.0b4, I'd like to
> get some people willing to spend from 20 minutes to one hours testing
> the builds and reporting it in Litmus.

That little? Man, I didn't realize it would take so little time, or I'd
have volunteered for Beta 2 or earlier! Live and learn.

> For the last round of testing we ended up with 10/12 volunteers signing
> up and almost all of them showing and doing tests.

That's not very many....

> * What kind of account you have access to (POP, Imap, SSL, RSS, NNTP)

POP and POPS if necessary (not preferred, but possible); IMAP and IMAPS;
RSS with a small bit of extra work; NNTP with this newsgroup ;)

> * What kind of OS you want to test on (Linux, Windows Vista, Windows
> XP, Mac OS (version)/Intel/PPC,OpenSolaris x86, Solaris /Sparc)

Windows Vista only.

> * What would you have interest in testing (if there are thing you
> don't want/ can't test let me know too)

No specific ideas, just whatever's there, I guess. What sorts of tests
are available?

> You will also need to have a account on Litmus and an account on Bugzilla.

I guess I'll go get myself a Litmus account, then....

Ludovic Hirlimann

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Oct 24, 2009, 2:06:18 AM10/24/09
to Nathan Tuggy
On 24/10/09 07:17, Nathan Tuggy wrote:
> On 2009-10-23 06:22, Ludovic Hirlimann wrote:
>> Like I did for Thunderbird 3.0b4, I'd like to
>> get some people willing to spend from 20 minutes to one hours testing
>> the builds and reporting it in Litmus.
>
> That little? Man, I didn't realize it would take so little time, or
> I'd have volunteered for Beta 2 or earlier! Live and learn.
>
Well that's why I'm asking for people t sign up so the work can be split
and not take so much time ..... That's the idea in splitting - making it
not too much time consuming

>> * What would you have interest in testing (if there are thing you
>> don't want/ can't test let me know too)
> No specific ideas, just whatever's there, I guess. What sorts of tests
> are available?
It's all in litmus :-)

Quarco

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Oct 25, 2009, 12:48:07 PM10/25/09
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I've been testing it all the time :- Use the nightly @home and @work..
Must say, it works flawlessly. Only problem I had was when I fresh
installed XP again and I couldn't get TB to start (Because I had been
messing around with my profile's folder; thunderbird -p fixed the problem)

So.. I use @work XP and @home W7 and would gladly test some things out
for you guys.. :-)


Regards,
Marco

metilluyoc

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Oct 27, 2009, 9:58:37 PM10/27/09
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On 23 oct, 14:22, Ludovic Hirlimann <ludo...@mozillamessaging.com>
wrote:

I try with beta 4 for personal use and in my office for weeks.
In my office I´ll try with more than 100 gb of messages, in more than
1000 files in more than 50 folders
At the begining it was slowly till the end o the index tasks.
Now it ok.
I don´t know why but same folders haven´t msg files. And I have to
clic in them to rebuild it (can i make it automaticaly)
In version 2, when you search in messeges, they build automaticaly msg
files. Now not.


I hope you understand what I try to explain. Thanks

Ludovic Hirlimann

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Oct 29, 2009, 3:16:03 AM10/29/09
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On 28/10/09 02:58, metilluyoc wrote:

> I try with beta 4 for personal use and in my office for weeks.
> In my office I�ll try with more than 100 gb of messages, in more than
> 1000 files in more than 50 folders
> At the begining it was slowly till the end o the index tasks.
> Now it ok.
> I don�t know why but same folders haven�t msg files. And I have to
> clic in them to rebuild it (can i make it automaticaly)
> In version 2, when you search in messeges, they build automaticaly msg
> files. Now not.
>
>
> I hope you understand what I try to explain. Thanks

No But I'll ask a few questions, do you use POP or imap ?

What messages files are you talking about ?

Rolf Gloor

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Oct 29, 2009, 6:10:57 AM10/29/09
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Hi Ludovic

One question regarding Litmus. I do not have a litmus account. I went to
the litmus web site. Is the free basic account sufficient for this work?
Or will you provide me with an access to litmus?
Let me know how that works.

I do have a bugzilla account (bugzilla.mozilla.org).

I do run TB3 nightly builds since a long time (also have TB3 Beta4
installed).
Also installed nightly lightning (and google sync).

Still using Outlook2000 as main eMail app. Due to some TB limitations,
especially with the address book. (Waiting for more field in standard,
and for contact categories/tags.)

eMail:POP
OS: WinXP
ev. Linux (WinXP, openSUSE 11.1 dual boot*)
NNTP: Having this newsgroup on TB3

*would mainly work on WinXP, since having Outlook there to transfer data
for testing into TB3.

Testing:
Would testing eMail and mainly AB (importing my 2000+ contacts), contact
lists, etc.


Looking forward to your advice regarding litmus.

Greetings from Switzerland
Rolf


Ludovic Hirlimann

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Oct 29, 2009, 11:08:15 AM10/29/09
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On 29/10/09 11:10, Rolf Gloor wrote:
> Am 23.10.2009 15:22, schrieb Ludovic Hirlimann:
> Hi Ludovic
>
> One question regarding Litmus. I do not have a litmus account. I went to
> the litmus web site. Is the free basic account sufficient for this work?

litmus.mozilla.org is what I'm talking about. So it should be free. If
you saw something else sorry I assumed litmus.mozilla.org.

> Or will you provide me with an access to litmus?
> Let me know how that works.
>
> I do have a bugzilla account (bugzilla.mozilla.org).
>
> I do run TB3 nightly builds since a long time (also have TB3 Beta4
> installed).
> Also installed nightly lightning (and google sync).
>
> Still using Outlook2000 as main eMail app. Due to some TB limitations,
> especially with the address book. (Waiting for more field in standard,
> and for contact categories/tags.)
>
> eMail:POP
> OS: WinXP
> ev. Linux (WinXP, openSUSE 11.1 dual boot*)
> NNTP: Having this newsgroup on TB3
>
> *would mainly work on WinXP, since having Outlook there to transfer data
> for testing into TB3.
>
> Testing:
> Would testing eMail and mainly AB (importing my 2000+ contacts), contact
> lists, etc.
>
>
> Looking forward to your advice regarding litmus.

See above. I'm optiong you in !

Rolf Gloor

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Oct 30, 2009, 4:27:07 AM10/30/09
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Hi Ludovic
Thanks for your response.
Got now my litmus.mozilla.org account.
Read a little bit in the (Mozilla) Litmus Tutorial.
Just wanted to mention: I do use a localized version (German language).
Is that fine?

Just checked the TB3.0 FFT. 92 Test cases, right?

Could do a part of it.

greetings
Rolf

Ludovic Hirlimann

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Oct 30, 2009, 10:34:44 AM10/30/09
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Das ist prima :-)

> Just checked the TB3.0 FFT. 92 Test cases, right?
>
> Could do a part of it.

When the testing efffort will start I'll send you and all the other
participants an email with what to test. The idea is to split the work
:-). There is currently 45 subsections of test. I'll assign at least one
or two to each participants - so coverage is wide. Each subsection as at
least 2/3 tests so it's more than just 92 test cases :-)

Gerry Healy

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Oct 31, 2009, 1:31:43 AM10/31/09
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If you are still looking for testers I can help out.

> * What kind of account you have access to (POP, Imap, SSL, RSS, NNTP)

IMAP + SSL and TLS

> * What kind of OS you want to test on (Linux, Windows Vista, Windows
> XP, Mac OS (version)/Intel/PPC,OpenSolaris x86, Solaris /Sparc)

Mac OS 10.4.11 PPC (and maybe 10.5.8 Intel)

> * What would you have interest in testing (if there are thing you
> don't want/ can't test let me know too)
>

All things IMAP interest me.

--Gerry

metilluyoc

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Nov 5, 2009, 12:22:41 PM11/5/09
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On 29 oct, 08:16, Ludovic Hirlimann <ludo...@mozillamessaging.com>
wrote:

Now, I used it localy, it is mail since 2005
I used to search old mail in my company.
It was read with POP. But now i copy (ftp) it from the server (linux)
to a windows XP machine, it´s faster.

Rolf Gloor

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:52:37 AM11/10/09
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Am 29.10.2009 16:08, schrieb Ludovic Hirlimann:

Hi Ludvic

I just wonder:

Is it possible to install several instances of TB (Shredder) in
parallel, using the same data?
Specifically: Would it be possible to install TB3.1a1pre and TB3.0pre /
TB3.0RC1 in two different program directories and run them with the same
profile (same data)?
Or are there any changes in the DB / profile or alike preventing this?

The reason: As far as I could see, the most needed enhancement is still
missing. The enhancement of the AB, supporting more fields (at least in
the GUI, I guess the data might be in the DB) as well as support for
categories / tags.
So I want to have a look at TB3.1 to find out, if or how much is already in.

Would this parallel installation screw up my TB3.0pre (nightly)
installation / data?

Thanks in advance.

Greetings from Switzerland
Rolf

Mark Banner

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:16:34 AM11/10/09
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On 10/11/2009 13:52, Rolf Gloor wrote:
> Specifically: Would it be possible to install TB3.1a1pre and TB3.0pre /
> TB3.0RC1 in two different program directories and run them with the same
> profile (same data)?
> Or are there any changes in the DB / profile or alike preventing this?
>
> The reason: As far as I could see, the most needed enhancement is still
> missing. The enhancement of the AB, supporting more fields (at least in
> the GUI, I guess the data might be in the DB) as well as support for
> categories / tags.
> So I want to have a look at TB3.1 to find out, if or how much is already
> in.
>
> Would this parallel installation screw up my TB3.0pre (nightly)
> installation / data?

At the moment the 3.1a1pre and 3.0pre code bases are virtually the same
code. There's been one or two minor differences in 3.1a1pre to cope with
differences between mozilla-1.9.1 and mozilla-central.

Generally though you won't notice any difference at the moment except
for the fact that tabs are broken in 3.1a1pre. This is all because the
focus has been on working on getting Thunderbird 3 out the door.

Once we start RCs etc we'll be likely to start 3.1a1pre moving forward
again.

Mark.

Ludovic Hirlimann

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:29:36 PM11/15/09
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Not at the moment . You might need to blow you golbal database when
downgrading in the future (as it has happen in the past.)

> The reason: As far as I could see, the most needed enhancement is still
> missing. The enhancement of the AB, supporting more fields (at least in
> the GUI, I guess the data might be in the DB) as well as support for
> categories / tags.
> So I want to have a look at TB3.1 to find out, if or how much is already
> in.

It's not in. What you get in 3.1 at the moment is mostly gecko changes.
People developing on TB on focused on releasong and fixing bugs so new
features are not coming to 3.1 yet.

> Would this parallel installation screw up my TB3.0pre (nightly)
> installation / data?

No

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