SeaMonkey printing (not)
NoOp
Gecko/20100827 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.7
OK, here's a test. Go to:
<http://www.theonion.com/articles/biden-to-cool-his-heels-in-mexico-for-a-while,17996/>
(actually any article on The Onion)
and print to a PDF from SeaMonkey.
Warning: the page contains off-color humor & foul language, so if you're
offended by those, skip the test.
Now, for those of you who also have Google Chrome or Chromium installed,
repeat the above. "The Onion is not intended for readers under 18 years
of age." But for lack of a better example...
SeaMonkey (for me) results in a 4 page 754KB file, and from Chrome and
Chromium a proper 2 page pdf: 1.5MB & 1.6MB respectively.
SeaMonkey PDF:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6569/outputfromseamonkey.pdf
Chromium PDF:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/214/outputfromchromium.pdf
Chrome PDF:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9999/outputfromcrome.pdf
Why is it that we just can't seem to get web page printing right after
all this time?
Robert Kaiser
> Why is it that we just can't seem to get web page printing right after
> all this time?
That's simply because we are forced by the Mozilla platform to use GNOME
printing and that is which sucks majorly.
Take this up with Mozilla platform folks, making Linux work really well
is not in their plans, given that less than 5% of their (and our) users
are on that OS.
Robert Kaiser
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I even appreciate irony and fun! :)
NoOp
> NoOp schrieb:
>> Why is it that we just can't seem to get web page printing right after
>> all this time?
>
> That's simply because we are forced by the Mozilla platform to use GNOME
> printing and that is which sucks majorly.
> Take this up with Mozilla platform folks, making Linux work really well
> is not in their plans, given that less than 5% of their (and our) users
> are on that OS.
>
> Robert Kaiser
>
That's an interesting reply. I also tested using cups-pdf via Chrome &
Chromium & that works fine, so maybe I'm not understanding the
technicals of your comments. If you can point me to the details I'll be
happy to try and help/test.
Further, I just tested on Win7 (SM 2.0.7) and the Mozilla results are
the same. So IMO it has nothing at all to do with Gnome printing or the
OS. The results of that Win7 SeaMonkey 2.0.7 PDF is located at:
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9929/bidenpdftestwin7wsm207.pdf
The file was created with PDFCreator:
http://www.pdfforge.org/pdfcreator
I'll be happy to provide the same Win7 results via Google Chrome if
you'd like. I can also test in WinXPPro as well.
Gary
NoOp
That's OK. I did it anyway. Here are the results from a newly installed
Google Chrome to PDFCreator:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5820/bidenpdftestwin7withgoo.pdf
Neil
> NoOp schrieb:
>
>> Why is it that we just can't seem to get web page printing right
>> after all this time?
>
> Take this up with Mozilla platform folks
The printing system is just one of the Gecko features that we have to
accept in whatever state we get it. So if Firefox 3.5 can't print that
page correctly, neither will we.
--
Warning: May contain traces of nuts.
Daniel
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12)
> Gecko/20100827 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.7
>
> OK, here's a test. Go to:
> <http://www.theonion.com/articles/biden-to-cool-his-heels-in-mexico-for-a-while,17996/>
> (actually any article on The Onion)
> and print to a PDF from SeaMonkey.
>
> offended by those, skip the test.
>
> Now, for those of you who also have Google Chrome or Chromium installed,
> repeat the above. "The Onion is not intended for readers under 18 years
> of age." But for lack of a better example...
>
> SeaMonkey (for me) results in a 4 page 754KB file, and from Chrome and
>
> SeaMonkey PDF:
> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6569/outputfromseamonkey.pdf
> Chromium PDF:
> http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/214/outputfromchromium.pdf
> Chrome PDF:
> http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9999/outputfromcrome.pdf
>
> Why is it that we just can't seem to get web page printing right after
> all this time?
>
>
>
I've got problems.....
1/. In SM 2.1a2, I clicked on main link (Biden article), went
File->Print and selected to PDF, clicked go and SM died...twice!
2/. Switched to SM 2.0.6, and found I don't have a PDF print file set up,
So either way, I've got problems!
Daniel
edward
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12)
> Gecko/20100827 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.7
>
> OK, here's a test. Go to:
> <http://www.theonion.com/articles/biden-to-cool-his-heels-in-mexico-for-a-while,17996/>
> (actually any article on The Onion)
> and print to a PDF from SeaMonkey.
>
> offended by those, skip the test.
Any particular reason for printing a web page as a PDF?? Just curious.
Bill Davidsen
> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>
>> NoOp schrieb:
>>
>>> Why is it that we just can't seem to get web page printing right
>>> after all this time?
>>
>> Take this up with Mozilla platform folks
>
> The printing system is just one of the Gecko features that we have to
> accept in whatever state we get it. So if Firefox 3.5 can't print that
> page correctly, neither will we.
>
of) run GNOME on Windows, but the last I saw about it was that it was unstable
and just a POC. Gecko issues I can believe.
And it's not all bad, the page which prints as page 2 is actually what you might
want, without the crap. Not WYSIWYG, but maybe useful if you don't mind entering
page ranges to just get what you want.
--
Bill Davidsen <davi...@tmr.com>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
Bill Davidsen
NoOp
Yes Edward, there is; printing to a PDF saves printer ink and saves
trees (paper).
Robert Kaiser
> That I can believe, the comment about GNOME print is misleading
How so? On Windows, you get a Windows print dialog, on Mac OS X you get
a Mac OS X dialog, on GTK2-powered Mozilla builds (i.e. everything on
Linux/Unix) you get sucky dumb GTK2/GNOME print dialogs.
Robert Kaiser