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Beta 8.0 frequently treats a tab-click as though the tab is being dragged

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Stuart Cook

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Sep 30, 2011, 11:02:48 PM9/30/11
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Yesterday I upgraded from Beta 7.0 to Beta 8.0, and almost immediately
ran into a serious problem with the new tab-dragging code.

Sometimes when I click on an inactive tab to select it, the browser
correctly switches to that tab, and then a second or so later acts as
though I had started to drag the tab off the bar. The tab disappears
from the bar, and the mouse cursor is replaced with a floating view of
the detached tab. My trackpad's mouse button is not being held down, and
there seems to be no way of exiting the drag mode other than clicking to
drop the tab back on the tab bar or as a new window.

I've filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690991 for this
issue.

Is this on anyone's radar? I never had these problems with earlier
versions, but with 8.0 it seems to happen quite frequently.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 1, 2011, 3:26:50 AM10/1/11
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I am unable to replicate your problem here. Have you tried this with a
different pointing device, or on another computer? Is your mouse driver
up to date? Really sounds like a 'sticky button' problem.

Stuart Cook

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Oct 1, 2011, 3:43:05 AM10/1/11
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On 1/10/11 5:26 PM, Ron Hunter wrote:
> I am unable to replicate your problem here. Have you tried this with a
> different pointing device, or on another computer? Is your mouse driver
> up to date? Really sounds like a 'sticky button' problem.

To be honest I can barely replicate it myself. I can try to trigger it
deliberately for 5 minutes and get nothing, and then 10 minutes later
I'll trigger it accidentally in the course of normal browsing.

My pointing device is the trackpad on a 2009 MacBook Pro running updated
Lion, so stale drivers are unlikely to be a factor.

My current guess is that my finger moves slightly while clicking the
trackpad, and sometimes that is enough to trigger a drag in the new
tab-dragging code. However, that doesn't explain why the drag gesture
continues without the button held down. I haven't noticed any other
'sticky button' issues on this system.

Anyway, I'll keep trying to find a way to reliably reproduce the issue,
and look for patterns in accidental activations.

Stuart Cook

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Oct 1, 2011, 4:51:15 AM10/1/11
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On 1/10/11 5:43 PM, Stuart Cook wrote:
> Anyway, I'll keep trying to find a way to reliably reproduce the issue,
> and look for patterns in accidental activations.

OK, just now I got a spurious tear-off after entering a URL with my
keyboard and hitting enter. Wasn't touching my trackpad at all. This is
really weird.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 1, 2011, 12:04:36 PM10/1/11
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It sounds rather like the problem I have on a Dell Netbook with the
buttons on the touchpad being part of the movement sensitive pad itself.
BAD IDEA! Trying to repeatedly click the button always results in
'creep' of the pointer. There may be some sensitivity settings you can
tweak. My solution on the Netbook was to put a piece of stickyback
velcro on the touchpad where the buttons are so that movement wasn't
sensed, but the press was. Looks kind funky, but effectively solved the
problem that a could of minutes programming could have resolved, had
Dell cared. My last purchase from Dell.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 1, 2011, 12:05:54 PM10/1/11
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Hummm. Another haunted computer.

Maybe you should stop using the trackpad for a place to put your diet
coke. GRIN.

Stuart Cook

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Oct 1, 2011, 8:06:21 PM10/1/11
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On 1/10/11 1:02 PM, Stuart Cook wrote:
> I've filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690991 for this
> issue.
>
> Is this on anyone's radar? I never had these problems with earlier
> versions, but with 8.0 it seems to happen quite frequently.

This turns out to be a duplicate of
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675340 .

Eric Sh.

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Oct 11, 2011, 12:04:06 PM10/11/11
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I have been having the same bug as Stuart Cook, the one where clicking a tab
can create a new window.

I believe this can happen on touchpads if you mouse down on the tab and the
mouse moves a little bit out of the tab bar(eg. down)

And I think that if we allow dragging out into a new window only after the
preview popup opens up the problem will be fixed.

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Stuart Cook <scook0+...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 1/10/11 1:02 PM, Stuart Cook wrote:
>

>> I've filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/**show_bug.cgi?id=690991<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690991>for this


>> issue.
>>
>> Is this on anyone's radar? I never had these problems with earlier
>> versions, but with 8.0 it seems to happen quite frequently.
>>
>

> This turns out to be a duplicate of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/**
> show_bug.cgi?id=675340<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675340>.
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Poopr Scooper

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Oct 13, 2011, 8:22:03 PM10/13/11
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On Oct 1, 12:26 am, Ron Hunter <rphun...@charter.net> wrote:
> On 9/30/2011 10:02 PM, Stuart Cook wrote:
>
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> > Yesterday I upgraded from Beta 7.0 to Beta 8.0, and almost immediately
> > ran into a serious problem with the new tab-dragging code.
>
> > Sometimes when I click on an inactive tab to select it, the browser
> > correctly switches to that tab, and then a second or so later acts as
> > though I had started to drag the tab off the bar. The tab disappears
> > from the bar, and the mouse cursor is replaced with a floating view of
> > the detached tab. My trackpad's mouse button is not being held down, and
> > there seems to be no way of exiting the drag mode other than clicking to
> > drop the tab back on the tab bar or as a new window.
>
> > I've filedhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690991for this

> > issue.
>
> > Is this on anyone's radar? I never had these problems with earlier
> > versions, but with 8.0 it seems to happen quite frequently.
>
> I am unable to replicate your problem here.  Have you tried this with a
> different pointing device, or on another computer?  Is your mouse driver
> up to date?  Really sounds like a 'sticky button' problem.

I'm having the exact same problem with a Macbook Pro FF8. Sometimes
I'll have click on the tab then scrolled down the page or just moved
the cursor around the page and a couple of second later the drag
window appears under my mouse cursor. Clearly I haven't even touched
the tab yet it's acting like I'm trying to drag a tab around. It's
extremely annoying and keeps happening randomly. Any clue on how to
log this?

Stuart Cook

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Oct 14, 2011, 8:55:33 AM10/14/11
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On 14/10/11 11:22 AM, Poopr Scooper wrote:
> I'm having the exact same problem with a Macbook Pro FF8. Sometimes
> I'll have click on the tab then scrolled down the page or just moved
> the cursor around the page and a couple of second later the drag
> window appears under my mouse cursor. Clearly I haven't even touched
> the tab yet it's acting like I'm trying to drag a tab around. It's
> extremely annoying and keeps happening randomly. Any clue on how to
> log this?

I don't have a solution, but I do have a workaround that will make the
bug slightly easier to live with.

As far as I can tell, the bug is triggered by moving your mouse cursor
directly from a Flash object to the tab bar, without passing over any
non-Flash web content. If you do that, and then click on a tab, that tab
will become detached as though it were being dragged.

Therefore, try to ensure that you don't have any Flash at the very top
of the page when you move your mouse cursor up to click on the tab bar.
Instead, scroll the page up or down to remove the Flash from the top of
your view, or move your cursor along a different path that doesn't take
it directly from Flash to the tab bar.

Eric Sh.

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Oct 14, 2011, 11:20:55 AM10/14/11
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On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Stuart Cook <scook0+...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I don't have a solution, but I do have a workaround that will make the bug
> slightly easier to live with.
>
> As far as I can tell, the bug is triggered by moving your mouse cursor
> directly from a Flash object to the tab bar, without passing over any
> non-Flash web content. If you do that, and then click on a tab, that tab
> will become detached as though it were being dragged.
>
> Therefore, try to ensure that you don't have any Flash at the very top of
> the page when you move your mouse cursor up to click on the tab bar.
> Instead, scroll the page up or down to remove the Flash from the top of your
> view, or move your cursor along a different path that doesn't take it
> directly from Flash to the tab bar.
>

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This is not a bug with flash, I created a bug for this look:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692962

Regards,

Stuart Cook

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Oct 14, 2011, 11:45:09 AM10/14/11
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On 15/10/11 2:20 AM, Eric Sh. wrote:
> This is not a bug with flash, I created a bug for this look:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692962

Interesting. It seems that there are at least two different ways to
trigger this sort of behaviour (the Flash way and your way), and I can
reproduce both of them.

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