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Frank Winkler

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Aug 27, 2008, 5:19:35 PM8/27/08
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Hi there !

As of version 3, FF asks if the currently opened tabs should be saved -
great. But as soon as more than one window is open this question is
replaced by the well-known (up to FF 2) warning about closing multiple
tabs. Bug or feature?

Regards

fw

Mike Beltzner

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Aug 27, 2008, 5:22:05 PM8/27/08
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If you quit the browser, you'll always get the "Save and Quit" dialog.
If you close a window (which isn't quitting the browser until it's the
last window on Windows, or at all on OSX) you'll get asked to confirm
that you wanted to close multiple tabs.

To quit on Windows, use Alt+F4 or File -> Quit.

cheers,
mike

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Frank Winkler

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Aug 27, 2008, 11:57:43 PM8/27/08
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Mike Beltzner wrote:

>If you quit the browser, you'll always get the "Save and Quit" dialog.
>If you close a window (which isn't quitting the browser until it's the
>last window on Windows, or at all on OSX) you'll get asked to confirm
>that you wanted to close multiple tabs.

NACK. The second window contained one single tab and the total number of
tabs mentikoned in the dialog was the one from the "main" window plus 1.

Regards

fw

Frank Winkler

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Oct 20, 2008, 4:30:23 PM10/20/08
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Frank Winkler wrote:

Still valid for 3.0.3 :( ...

Regards

fw

Mike Beltzner

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Oct 20, 2008, 5:07:34 PM10/20/08
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You're asked about saving windows and tabs when you quit Firefox.
When you're closing one of multiple Firefox windows, you're not
quitting Firefox.

cheers,
mike

Frank Winkler

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Oct 21, 2008, 3:42:23 PM10/21/08
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Mike Beltzner wrote:

>You're asked about saving windows and tabs when you quit Firefox.
>When you're closing one of multiple Firefox windows, you're not quitting
>Firefox.

Damn, you're right! If I do File->Exit with multiple windows open, it
really asks as expected. Thanks for the hint, Mike!
What about a keyboard shortcut for that (didn't we have it in earlier
versions?)?

Regards

fw

quodlibetor

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Oct 27, 2008, 9:43:27 PM10/27/08
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As far as i know there is a keyboard shortcut on linux and os x (Ctrl
+q) but not on windows. This sort of makes sense from a "native os
feel" perspective since that is what that key combo does in general on
*nix, but windows has no equivalent. I'm not even sure that it has an
equivalent *concept*. That said, that keyboard combo is not taken on
windows (except by an extension or two, like Ctrl+Tab) and I
personally would love to have it, since i sometimes accidentally close
a window instead of exiting firefox. Which can just completely lose me
a "work group."

Although, as a workaround for that, right now, i use the tab mix plus
extension and "protect" at least one tab in each window which prevents
that window from closing unless you're "exiting"

brandon)

Frank Winkler

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Oct 28, 2008, 12:52:41 AM10/28/08
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quodlibetor wrote:

>As far as i know there is a keyboard shortcut on linux and os x (Ctrl
>+q) but not on windows. This sort of makes sense from a "native os

That would do the trick as I normally use Solaris or MacOS X. At the time
of this thread, I hadn't upgraded to FF 3 on MacOS, it even wasn't
available for "closed Solaris" so I tested it on a Win VM - where I didn't
find the shortcut.

Thanks!

fw

Thomas Stache

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Oct 28, 2008, 5:16:54 AM10/28/08
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quodlibetor wrote:
> As far as i know there is a keyboard shortcut on linux and os x (Ctrl
> +q) but not on windows. This sort of makes sense from a "native os
> feel" perspective since that is what that key combo does in general on
> *nix, but windows has no equivalent. I'm not even sure that it has an
> equivalent *concept*. ...

Whoa, that's a bug! Firefox should exit on "Alt-F4", which is the "Exit App"
shortcut on Windows since the earliest days. I was very surprised to see that
this shortcut only does a "Close Window"....

Adam Dolinski

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Oct 28, 2008, 5:26:04 AM10/28/08
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That's true.
Since the earliest days Alt-F4 should close the app and Ctrl-F4 should close
the active document window of an MDI (multiple document interface) app.

Adam Doliński

Rob Arnold

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Oct 28, 2008, 8:09:22 AM10/28/08
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Alt-f-x works on Windows (except oddly enough from this gmail compose box).
There are a lot of shortcuts for things that you can use just by looking at
the mnemonic (underlined) letters in menuitems.

-Rob

2008/10/28 Adam Dolinski <a.dol...@samsung.com>

> That's true.
> Since the earliest days Alt-F4 should close the app and Ctrl-F4 should
> close
> the active document window of an MDI (multiple document interface) app.
>
> Adam Doliński
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Adam Dolinski

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Oct 28, 2008, 8:59:33 AM10/28/08
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Good point. Here we talk about two standards that complement each other and
do not contradict. One standard is Alt-F4 and Ctrl-F4, and the other
standard is Alt_F_X. Alt-F means "open the pull down menu, which has F as an
underlined letter in its title" and if you follow this with pressing X,
meaning "select from the active pull down menu the command, which has X as
an underlined letter", then you reach Exit command which conveniently on
most Windows apps is located in the File menu.

If you release software in multiple national languages, then Alt-F4 and
Ctrl-F4 are language independent and Alt_F_X is language dependent and
depends on actual translations of menu name and command name respectively
and what particular characters you decide to select for underlined shortcuts
of both.

Adam Doliński

-Rob

2008/10/28 Adam Dolinski <a.dol...@samsung.com>

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