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Lawrence Kisuuki

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May 13, 2014, 7:45:39 AM5/13/14
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Hello Majken,

Thanks for the response. I've actually been signed up to Community local
sites for a while now, but I'm not on the Cwd list.

However, I rarely receive any updates from local sites so I assume it's
abit silent, I even reached out to the Google group back when I was
seeking Craig but got no response.

I'm aware that there's a Fredy who built the Columbia site and shared his
code with me on github but I would prefer tweaking wordpress for the
versatility and ease of use for my community.

Maybe CWD could help, will try and reach out. Thanks.



*Regards,*


*Lawrence*

*Community Manager*
*Mozilla Uganda | GenOpen*


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> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:34:08 +0300
> From: Lawrence Kisuuki <lawr...@mozilla-uganda.org>
> To: community...@mozilla.org
> Subject: [CBT] Mozilla standards especially with websites
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> Hello,
>
> Great discussions at CBT.
>
> Mine is with some of the Mozilla standards and need for support to scale in
> Uganda. I believe one of the missions in CBT is to help grow communities
> and to strengthen them, or help them retain their contributors and
> outreach.
>
> One of the key methods of outreach is the website. Our site for instance is
> based on Wordpress, not because of lack of web developers, but because
> we've several important contributors who would also write us content but
> are code shy and to me I find the wordpress One Mozilla standard blog
> outdated. WordPress has shifted from that to become more and powerful to
> even include corporate sites. I tried to reach out to the Developer Craig
> Cook that made the theme so that we customise it together and improve it
> but he zoned out later.
>
> What I'm driving at is, is it possible for communities to use their own
> designs and may be try to keep some of the colours maybe? Because for
> instance we've not had much support I personally struggled with San James
> from the start configuring the server, to the site.
>
> Hope to hear your views.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lawrence
> Community Manager
> Mozilla Uganda |Genopen |Newslibre
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> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:43:11 +0300
> From: Lawrence Kisuuki <lawr...@mozilla-uganda.org>
> To: community...@mozilla.org
> Subject: [CBT] Community outreach tools and resources
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> Hello,
>
> Hope you're well. Last time I asked about community equipment and also the
> Mozilla style standards. Today I ask about the community outreach and
> support programmes.
>
> By this I mean newsletters, sms, reward programmes, databases, discourse. I
> would love first of all to thank Thomas Farrow for helping us with what is
> available at IT for communities related to this whenever we search for it,
> it has helped us with engagement.
>
> Some communities like those in Africa (we already discussed this with
> William Reynolds and Tom) have lower email engagement then our European
> counterparts. And we thought of alternatives like sms. And I have not seen
> any tool supporting this but I'm sure it's more effective, don't know how
> it would be measured though on Mozilla's side.
>
> Also we need newsletters, many are paid for systems, what can we do. Cause
> I noticed all communities would do better hearing from their community
> about what's happening and how they faired at least monthly, we can't
> personally send the emails cause it gets tiresome and it becomes spammy
> like Gmail limits 50 recipients per message. Many members disappear because
> of this, imagine a lag of about 2months without any event... What do you
> think about this?
>
> Also what's the thought about say physical digest or magazine, does Mozilla
> do this? (just asking about this, never seen one)
>
> Cheers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lawrence
> Community Manager
> Mozilla Uganda |Genopen |Newslibre
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> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:19:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jennie Rose Halperin <jhal...@mozilla.com>
> To: For discussions about how to grow Mozilla and bring in new
> contributors <community...@mozilla.org>
> Subject: Re: [CBT] Community outreach tools and resources
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> Lawrence,
>
> Thank you for reaching out again. I think the issues that you're bringing
> up are super relevant to our community and how we support each other moving
> forward.
>
> I feel like there are definitely tools to deal with this, and I'd be happy
> to brainstorm different kinds of solutions with the community
>
> What kinds of communication tools would make your community stronger? Is
> the barrier to discourse and newsletters lack of internet connectivity?
> I hope I'm understanding your comments correctly, and I'm excited to have
> this conversation because I think it's important to the community.
>
> Here are some thoughts:
> 1. I found this free and open-source SMS client that may be of use:
> http://playsms.org/
> 2. Are you using a Mozilla list, or have you applied for one?
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo
> It really only takes one contributor to have the drive to put out news
> about their community!
> For world-wide community news, there's the about:Mozilla newsletter, which
> WILL be out this week, finally. You can totally have your community
> featured, which may make people feel excited to be a part of your group.
> 3. Maybe instead of planning events, you could have an open hack
> time/hangout time once a week in a public place. You don't necessarily have
> to be working on Mozilla-centric projects, or even using technology. You
> could talk about the open web or security culture, or use the time for
> planning. Getting together regularly makes a community stronger! That
> would be something worth announcing over SMS or with flyers, maybe.
> 4. I saw a physical magazine in the Mozilla offices a few months ago that
> had all sorts of articles. I'm not sure what the status of it is, but
> maybe other community members have a better idea.
>
> Best,
>
> Jennie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Kisuuki" <lawr...@mozilla-uganda.org>
> To: community...@mozilla.org
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:43:11 AM
> Subject: [CBT] Community outreach tools and resources
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Hope you're well. Last time I asked about community equipment and also the
> Mozilla style standards. Today I ask about the community outreach and
> support programmes.
>
> By this I mean newsletters, sms, reward programmes, databases, discourse.
> I would love first of all to thank Thomas Farrow for helping us with what
> is available at IT for communities related to this whenever we search for
> it, it has helped us with engagement.
>
> Some communities like those in Africa (we already discussed this with
> William Reynolds and Tom) have lower email engagement then our European
> counterparts. And we thought of alternatives like sms. And I have not seen
> any tool supporting this but I'm sure it's more effective, don't know how
> it would be measured though on Mozilla's side.
>
> Also we need newsletters, many are paid for systems, what can we do. Cause
> I noticed all communities would do better hearing from their community
> about what's happening and how they faired at least monthly, we can't
> personally send the emails cause it gets tiresome and it becomes spammy
> like Gmail limits 50 recipients per message. Many members disappear because
> of this, imagine a lag of about 2months without any event... What do you
> think about this?
>
> Also what's the thought about say physical digest or magazine, does
> Mozilla do this? (just asking about this, never seen one)
>
> Cheers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lawrence
> Community Manager
> Mozilla Uganda |Genopen |Newslibre
>
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> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 13:35:10 -0400
> From: Majken Connor <maj...@gmail.com>
> To: For discussions about how to grow Mozilla and bring in new
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> Subject: Re: [CBT] Mozilla standards especially with websites
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> Lawrence,
>
> Yes, community sites are allowed to do what they like. The theme is just
> another resource available. There is actually a discussion forum/list
> specifically for people who are running local sites -
> https://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/#community-local-sites
>
> You might reach more people there who have had the same issues, and that
> would also be a good place (as well as here) to share anything you end up
> creating.
>
> This also sounds like a good project for the new Community WebDev group,
> updating the base theme to be more current. Besides the community sites
> list there is also #cwd on IRC and the Community WebDev category on
> discourse to reach out to that group.
>
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Lawrence Kisuuki <
> lawr...@mozilla-uganda.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Great discussions at CBT.
> >
> > Mine is with some of the Mozilla standards and need for support to scale
> > in Uganda. I believe one of the missions in CBT is to help grow
> communities
> > and to strengthen them, or help them retain their contributors and
> > outreach.
> >
> > One of the key methods of outreach is the website. Our site for instance
> > is based on Wordpress, not because of lack of web developers, but because
> > we've several important contributors who would also write us content but
> > are code shy and to me I find the wordpress One Mozilla standard blog
> > outdated. WordPress has shifted from that to become more and powerful to
> > even include corporate sites. I tried to reach out to the Developer Craig
> > Cook that made the theme so that we customise it together and improve it
> > but he zoned out later.
> >
> > What I'm driving at is, is it possible for communities to use their own
> > designs and may be try to keep some of the colours maybe? Because for
> > instance we've not had much support I personally struggled with San James
> > from the start configuring the server, to the site.
> >
> > Hope to hear your views.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Lawrence
> > Community Manager
> > Mozilla Uganda |Genopen |Newslibre
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Community...@mozilla.org
> > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-building
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