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Kinshuk Sunil
Nov 24, 2011, 1:24:52 AM11/24/11
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*Note: *
This email has HTML formatting inside.
This email has been drafted from my personal opinions and I am open to
discussions and debate.
this email is very long and will easily take 10-15 minutes of your
precious time. You have been forewarned.
***
I was one of the lucky few invited to MozCamp Asia held recently in
Kuala Lumpur, alongwith another 6-8 Mozilla contributors from India and
the Redhat sponsored localisation team. Over the three day period, I
spent a lot of time interacting with people from India and the other
communities, and tried to identify our challenges and our opportunities.
I spoke with those communities to understand how they are meeting these
challenges and participated in innumerable discussions about the way
forward for Mozilla India. The following proposal was drafted keeping in
mind all these inputs, and the solutions/ideas I present here are not
necessarily mine. They are a result of a lot of ideas and solutions
presented to me during those discussions. Please be forewarned, this is
going to be a long rant.
*Where we stand today?*
Mozilla India is a nascent community started in early 2011 with the
initiatives led, around an impetus by Mozilla, by Vineel, who is
contributing to build a dedicated team around all the community
initiatives. Alongwith, we have many stalwarts/veterans of open source
communities actively participating in the furthering of the Firefox and
Mozilla outreach in Indian communities, and who have been contributing
for the past many years. We have 21 active reps in the country who are
doing a lot of local events and promotion and are guiding members from
their local communities into the Mozilla ecosystem. In 2011 alone, we
had 24 Firefox 4 launch parties and about 10-12 events (past events data
is a little difficult to capture right now) across regional centers
already and there are more under process.
*What are our challenges?*
What I have been able to identify as our challenges (and please feel
free to add to the list) are:
1. Indecisiveness and Slow decision making
2. Lack of focussed efforts
3. Uncoordinated initiatives across the country
4. Too many minds/voices/opinions
5. Experimental nature of community engagement
6. Lack of community engagement experience
There is no structure and shape of the Mozilla India community right
now, and thus all contributors are working in a Every-man-for-himself
(yes, to my knowledge there is no female rep yet; we should resolve that
soon) model. The problem with this EMFH model is that there will be
sporadic and inconsistent bursts of community activities across regional
centers but no nurturing of the community and proper engagement.
Our decision making is very slow with many discussions spread across
many IRC chats and then a select few end up making the decisions (due to
the lack of presence of others), which makes the whole idea of the
community quite moot. There is no responsibility and no accountability
within the community right now.
Most of our reps are young students without any previous community
involvement, which is both a good and bad thing. While they bring in a
lot of energy and enthusiasm to the campaigns, they lack in
understanding and execution of community initiatives and campaigns.
Which also makes our community engagement initiatives quite experimental
in nature as they are organised in an execute-observe-react manner. We
need tighter planning and coordination.
*The Road Ahead?*
This is the main part of my proposal. I hereby propose a three-step
program to help build the Mozilla India community.
*1. Formation of a Steering Committee/Council.*
The steering committee or a council will be the main executive body for
the community. It will be made of 10 volunteers from the currently
active reps. The initial composition should be voluntary, since we are
not very big yet. But, over time there should be a term for each member
in the council and reps should get to vote on who gets into the council,
considering the community gets that big and mature.
This 10 member body should be responsible for all the community
initiaitves and their regional centers. They will coordinate and
collaborate with members of the community and guide and execute with
regional leaders. They will also work with the international communities
and the parent community to make resources ready and available to
Mozilla India. This would not only raise opportunities for active
members to make useful contributions, but also help build a focussed
campaign, over time, across the country, executed through local
initiatives and build a national community. It is important that this
council be made of active reps only.
But we also need to seek the wisdom, advise and experience of community
veterans like Arky, Hari (few present at MozCamp Asia) and many other
open source community veterans from India. They should be a part of an
advisory body which helps and guides the steering committee. If they
have the time to offer, they should also be invited to be a part of the
steering committee.
The initial council members can be (people pls volunteer in or out):
* Kinshuk Sunil, Delhi (Myself)
* Abhishek Nagar, Haldwani
* Vineel Reddy Pindi, Hyderabad
* Soumya Deb, Pune
* Dwarkanath, Chennai
* Anup Kumar Mishra, Bhopal
(in my initial list, I have tried to avoid two reps from the same region).
The advisory body can be:
* Hari Prasad Nadig
* Rakesh Ambati (Arky)
* Rajesh Ranjan
(and other community veterans, I am short on names right now. A good
judging criteria will be more than 3-5 years of active community
contribution, maybe.)
*2. Synchronised All India Campaigns*
We need to raise awareness for the Mozilla Manifesto and the ecosystem
right now. Simply telling people about how they can contribute to
Mozilla is not enough. We need to communicate 'Why contribute to
Mozilla' in a way which is non-Mozilla centric. We need to make people
aware of open web, open standards, identity, the internet ecosystem and
the mozilla manifesto. This needs to be done in a way that is easily
acceptable for masses. Yofie (from Indonesia) demonstrated a very simple
way of achieving this by showcasing Firefox Addons and how they can
simpliify complex activities over the internet and make it more user
friendly. Similar ways can be showcasing all aspects of Mozilla
manifesto instead of talking about it directly.
So, I propose a series of one-day awareness events - at the
fundamental/foundation level for the masses across India preferably in
Jan/Feb 2012. Reps can create alignments in their regional centers
(which can be nurtued into regional hubs from where the community will
grow into sub-hub roots). We have 21 reps now, so this comes close to an
event a day in one of our target months. If coordinated and executed
properly, not only will it help spread awareness, it will attract useful
media exposure and help us reach other places too. Plus, it will make it
easier to get access to key people from Mozilla to help push the
community initiatives.
The agenda for the events can be:
* What is the open web? (30 mins)
* What are open standards? (30 mins)
* Browser ID: Privacy and Identity over the internet (30 mins)
* 10 Firefox addons for masses that make life easier (30 mins)
* 10 Firefox addons for developers that make web development simpler
(30 mins)
* Workshop on Firefox addon development (2 hours)
* Firefox & Thunderbird Install Fest (1 hour)
* The Mozilla Manifesto (30 mins)
* Workshop on How can you contribute to Mozilla (1 hour)
The target audience will be: Students, Web Developers, People interested
in the Internet
*3. Collaborating with other Communities*
The next important step will be to extend what we are doing in India to
other communities internationally. Exchange participants and speakers
and share initiatives. The aforementioned awareness drive can be
extended into nearby countries like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Indonesia,
Combodia etc and they can implement similar cross-country campaigns and
help make this national campaign into an international drive. But to be
successful as a community, we have to work with our neighbour
communities and promote Mozilla not only in our country but the region.
A regional event with many participating nations (in many ways, a
mini-MozCamp Asia) should be in our radar pretty soon.
While this might sound like too grand a plan to start with, I am only
talking in steps and we are right now very ready to be able to pull this
off, if we work together.
I look forward to more opinions and feedback from the rest of you, and
am very excited about executing this plan and start making a difference.
Kinshuk
This email has HTML formatting inside.
This email has been drafted from my personal opinions and I am open to
discussions and debate.
this email is very long and will easily take 10-15 minutes of your
precious time. You have been forewarned.
***
I was one of the lucky few invited to MozCamp Asia held recently in
Kuala Lumpur, alongwith another 6-8 Mozilla contributors from India and
the Redhat sponsored localisation team. Over the three day period, I
spent a lot of time interacting with people from India and the other
communities, and tried to identify our challenges and our opportunities.
I spoke with those communities to understand how they are meeting these
challenges and participated in innumerable discussions about the way
forward for Mozilla India. The following proposal was drafted keeping in
mind all these inputs, and the solutions/ideas I present here are not
necessarily mine. They are a result of a lot of ideas and solutions
presented to me during those discussions. Please be forewarned, this is
going to be a long rant.
*Where we stand today?*
Mozilla India is a nascent community started in early 2011 with the
initiatives led, around an impetus by Mozilla, by Vineel, who is
contributing to build a dedicated team around all the community
initiatives. Alongwith, we have many stalwarts/veterans of open source
communities actively participating in the furthering of the Firefox and
Mozilla outreach in Indian communities, and who have been contributing
for the past many years. We have 21 active reps in the country who are
doing a lot of local events and promotion and are guiding members from
their local communities into the Mozilla ecosystem. In 2011 alone, we
had 24 Firefox 4 launch parties and about 10-12 events (past events data
is a little difficult to capture right now) across regional centers
already and there are more under process.
*What are our challenges?*
What I have been able to identify as our challenges (and please feel
free to add to the list) are:
1. Indecisiveness and Slow decision making
2. Lack of focussed efforts
3. Uncoordinated initiatives across the country
4. Too many minds/voices/opinions
5. Experimental nature of community engagement
6. Lack of community engagement experience
There is no structure and shape of the Mozilla India community right
now, and thus all contributors are working in a Every-man-for-himself
(yes, to my knowledge there is no female rep yet; we should resolve that
soon) model. The problem with this EMFH model is that there will be
sporadic and inconsistent bursts of community activities across regional
centers but no nurturing of the community and proper engagement.
Our decision making is very slow with many discussions spread across
many IRC chats and then a select few end up making the decisions (due to
the lack of presence of others), which makes the whole idea of the
community quite moot. There is no responsibility and no accountability
within the community right now.
Most of our reps are young students without any previous community
involvement, which is both a good and bad thing. While they bring in a
lot of energy and enthusiasm to the campaigns, they lack in
understanding and execution of community initiatives and campaigns.
Which also makes our community engagement initiatives quite experimental
in nature as they are organised in an execute-observe-react manner. We
need tighter planning and coordination.
*The Road Ahead?*
This is the main part of my proposal. I hereby propose a three-step
program to help build the Mozilla India community.
*1. Formation of a Steering Committee/Council.*
The steering committee or a council will be the main executive body for
the community. It will be made of 10 volunteers from the currently
active reps. The initial composition should be voluntary, since we are
not very big yet. But, over time there should be a term for each member
in the council and reps should get to vote on who gets into the council,
considering the community gets that big and mature.
This 10 member body should be responsible for all the community
initiaitves and their regional centers. They will coordinate and
collaborate with members of the community and guide and execute with
regional leaders. They will also work with the international communities
and the parent community to make resources ready and available to
Mozilla India. This would not only raise opportunities for active
members to make useful contributions, but also help build a focussed
campaign, over time, across the country, executed through local
initiatives and build a national community. It is important that this
council be made of active reps only.
But we also need to seek the wisdom, advise and experience of community
veterans like Arky, Hari (few present at MozCamp Asia) and many other
open source community veterans from India. They should be a part of an
advisory body which helps and guides the steering committee. If they
have the time to offer, they should also be invited to be a part of the
steering committee.
The initial council members can be (people pls volunteer in or out):
* Kinshuk Sunil, Delhi (Myself)
* Abhishek Nagar, Haldwani
* Vineel Reddy Pindi, Hyderabad
* Soumya Deb, Pune
* Dwarkanath, Chennai
* Anup Kumar Mishra, Bhopal
(in my initial list, I have tried to avoid two reps from the same region).
The advisory body can be:
* Hari Prasad Nadig
* Rakesh Ambati (Arky)
* Rajesh Ranjan
(and other community veterans, I am short on names right now. A good
judging criteria will be more than 3-5 years of active community
contribution, maybe.)
*2. Synchronised All India Campaigns*
We need to raise awareness for the Mozilla Manifesto and the ecosystem
right now. Simply telling people about how they can contribute to
Mozilla is not enough. We need to communicate 'Why contribute to
Mozilla' in a way which is non-Mozilla centric. We need to make people
aware of open web, open standards, identity, the internet ecosystem and
the mozilla manifesto. This needs to be done in a way that is easily
acceptable for masses. Yofie (from Indonesia) demonstrated a very simple
way of achieving this by showcasing Firefox Addons and how they can
simpliify complex activities over the internet and make it more user
friendly. Similar ways can be showcasing all aspects of Mozilla
manifesto instead of talking about it directly.
So, I propose a series of one-day awareness events - at the
fundamental/foundation level for the masses across India preferably in
Jan/Feb 2012. Reps can create alignments in their regional centers
(which can be nurtued into regional hubs from where the community will
grow into sub-hub roots). We have 21 reps now, so this comes close to an
event a day in one of our target months. If coordinated and executed
properly, not only will it help spread awareness, it will attract useful
media exposure and help us reach other places too. Plus, it will make it
easier to get access to key people from Mozilla to help push the
community initiatives.
The agenda for the events can be:
* What is the open web? (30 mins)
* What are open standards? (30 mins)
* Browser ID: Privacy and Identity over the internet (30 mins)
* 10 Firefox addons for masses that make life easier (30 mins)
* 10 Firefox addons for developers that make web development simpler
(30 mins)
* Workshop on Firefox addon development (2 hours)
* Firefox & Thunderbird Install Fest (1 hour)
* The Mozilla Manifesto (30 mins)
* Workshop on How can you contribute to Mozilla (1 hour)
The target audience will be: Students, Web Developers, People interested
in the Internet
*3. Collaborating with other Communities*
The next important step will be to extend what we are doing in India to
other communities internationally. Exchange participants and speakers
and share initiatives. The aforementioned awareness drive can be
extended into nearby countries like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Indonesia,
Combodia etc and they can implement similar cross-country campaigns and
help make this national campaign into an international drive. But to be
successful as a community, we have to work with our neighbour
communities and promote Mozilla not only in our country but the region.
A regional event with many participating nations (in many ways, a
mini-MozCamp Asia) should be in our radar pretty soon.
While this might sound like too grand a plan to start with, I am only
talking in steps and we are right now very ready to be able to pull this
off, if we work together.
I look forward to more opinions and feedback from the rest of you, and
am very excited about executing this plan and start making a difference.
Kinshuk
Hari Prasad Nadig
Nov 24, 2011, 5:32:15 AM11/24/11
to Kinshuk Sunil, communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Kinshuk,
The ideas you've put together sound amazing.
A good way to start improving a community is by understanding the
difficulties it has been facing and finding solutions/workarounds for that.
A well planned structure would definitely give activities around Mozilla
and related projects a tremendous boost.
Of course, no setup - informal or formal is easy to put together. It needs
a lot of work, and this could be a start.
Feel free to add me to the initial team. I'd be interested in working
towards getting more people to contribute to these projects, while
spreading the word to those who're still not using them.
Cheers,
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Kinshuk Sunil <kin...@mozillaindia.org>wrote:
> [...]
> ______________________________**_________________
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> communi...@lists.mozilla.**org <communi...@lists.mozilla.org>
> https://lists.mozilla.org/**listinfo/community-india<https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-india>
>
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Hari Prasad Nadig
http://hpnadig.net
http://twitter.com/hpnadig
http://flickr.com/hpnadig
The ideas you've put together sound amazing.
A good way to start improving a community is by understanding the
difficulties it has been facing and finding solutions/workarounds for that.
A well planned structure would definitely give activities around Mozilla
and related projects a tremendous boost.
Of course, no setup - informal or formal is easy to put together. It needs
a lot of work, and this could be a start.
Feel free to add me to the initial team. I'd be interested in working
towards getting more people to contribute to these projects, while
spreading the word to those who're still not using them.
Cheers,
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Kinshuk Sunil <kin...@mozillaindia.org>wrote:
> [...]
> community-india mailing list
> communi...@lists.mozilla.**org <communi...@lists.mozilla.org>
> https://lists.mozilla.org/**listinfo/community-india<https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-india>
>
--
Hari Prasad Nadig
http://hpnadig.net
http://twitter.com/hpnadig
http://flickr.com/hpnadig
pavan patharde
Nov 24, 2011, 5:55:27 AM11/24/11
to Hari Prasad Nadig, communi...@lists.mozilla.org, Kinshuk Sunil
Hi All,'
I am Pavan P Patharde willing to work with you guys.I am from
Bangalore. Currently employed and willing to spend my time on
firefox.I have been a campus rep for Mozilla.
Thanks and Regards,
Pavan P Patharde
> _______________________________________________
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> communi...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-india
>
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Pavan .P.Patharde
Phone:9844626450
I am Pavan P Patharde willing to work with you guys.I am from
Bangalore. Currently employed and willing to spend my time on
firefox.I have been a campus rep for Mozilla.
Thanks and Regards,
Pavan P Patharde
> community-india mailing list
> communi...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-india
>
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Phone:9844626450
anup mishra
Nov 24, 2011, 5:56:00 AM11/24/11
to Kinshuk Sunil, communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Hi Kinshuk ,
The idea you have came up with is really amazing and I personally think
that if we follow the same we can come up with the outcomes we are looking
it. I am always ready to be a part of the council member.
I would also like to update others about the things I have done in the past
two days :-
1) Shared the whole news of Mozcamp Asia with Journalists , they would be
publishing it soon.
2) Talked to my Localization Manager in Wipro . He is also a Open Source
Hardcore Guy.So is ready to give 2 Localisation experts to me on 2 weekends
so that we can conduct Localization Tools Workshop & more users can
contribute.
3) Planning a Multi -Level Event in Feb 2012 .Formed an initial committee
for this having students from Various Engg Colleges. All of them are
enthusiastic & Open Source Contributors. Some of them are Student Reps.
Rgds
Anup
The idea you have came up with is really amazing and I personally think
that if we follow the same we can come up with the outcomes we are looking
it. I am always ready to be a part of the council member.
I would also like to update others about the things I have done in the past
two days :-
1) Shared the whole news of Mozcamp Asia with Journalists , they would be
publishing it soon.
2) Talked to my Localization Manager in Wipro . He is also a Open Source
Hardcore Guy.So is ready to give 2 Localisation experts to me on 2 weekends
so that we can conduct Localization Tools Workshop & more users can
contribute.
3) Planning a Multi -Level Event in Feb 2012 .Formed an initial committee
for this having students from Various Engg Colleges. All of them are
enthusiastic & Open Source Contributors. Some of them are Student Reps.
Rgds
Anup
> *Note: *
> This email has HTML formatting inside.
> This email has been drafted from my personal opinions and I am open to
> discussions and debate.
> this email is very long and will easily take 10-15 minutes of your
> precious time. You have been forewarned.
> ***
>
> This email has HTML formatting inside.
> This email has been drafted from my personal opinions and I am open to
> discussions and debate.
> this email is very long and will easily take 10-15 minutes of your
> precious time. You have been forewarned.
> ***
>
srikar ananthula
Nov 24, 2011, 5:57:25 AM11/24/11
to Hari Prasad Nadig, Kinshuk Sunil, communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Very nice initiatives by Kinshuk Sunil Sir...
Hope this would help all of us to have proper level of communication between each of them.
The session was planned very well giving each topic prescribed time.
I think all wud be very happy on seeing this mail and wud surely promote mozilla community so that the contribution is done from evry indivudual.
3 Step prog is fantastic.
Chain process is gud process to initiate the tasks and grow towards n number.
I am not a contributor till now but hope i will join soon wid the help of communinty!!
Regards,
A.Srikar
@ananthulasrikar
Hope this would help all of us to have proper level of communication between each of them.
The session was planned very well giving each topic prescribed time.
I think all wud be very happy on seeing this mail and wud surely promote mozilla community so that the contribution is done from evry indivudual.
3 Step prog is fantastic.
Chain process is gud process to initiate the tasks and grow towards n number.
I am not a contributor till now but hope i will join soon wid the help of communinty!!
Regards,
A.Srikar
@ananthulasrikar
________________________________
From: Hari Prasad Nadig <hpn...@gmail.com>
To: Kinshuk Sunil <kin...@mozillaindia.org>
Cc: communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Organisational Proposal for Mozilla India: A 3 Step Program
Kinshuk,
The ideas you've put together sound amazing.
A good way to start improving a community is by understanding the
difficulties it has been facing and finding solutions/workarounds for that.
A well planned structure would definitely give activities around Mozilla
and related projects a tremendous boost.
Of course, no setup - informal or formal is easy to put together. It needs
a lot of work, and this could be a start.
Feel free to add me to the initial team. I'd be interested in working
towards getting more people to contribute to these projects, while
spreading the word to those who're still not using them.
Cheers,
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Kinshuk Sunil <kin...@mozillaindia.org>wrote:
> [...]
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Arun Prakash
Nov 24, 2011, 8:02:31 AM11/24/11
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Hello,
The Idea Sounds good. This infrastructure will work good.
But I had a suggestion in mind. For 21 reps 10 council members is a higher
strength.
This means that a rep who is not a council member will be given a Mentor as
Council member ?
Rather the council members can be experienced people and may be upto a
maximum of 3.
If we have higher council members, then decentralisation, reporting person,
suggesting person would be of vague.
Each rep could be mentored by one or two at a maximum. Myself feeling good
with one Mentor( Vineel).
Please share your views.
Regards,
Arun Prakash
The Idea Sounds good. This infrastructure will work good.
But I had a suggestion in mind. For 21 reps 10 council members is a higher
strength.
This means that a rep who is not a council member will be given a Mentor as
Council member ?
Rather the council members can be experienced people and may be upto a
maximum of 3.
If we have higher council members, then decentralisation, reporting person,
suggesting person would be of vague.
Each rep could be mentored by one or two at a maximum. Myself feeling good
with one Mentor( Vineel).
Please share your views.
Regards,
Arun Prakash
Kinshuk Sunil
Nov 24, 2011, 8:12:37 AM11/24/11
to Arun Prakash, communi...@lists.mozilla.org
> _______________________________________________
> community-india mailing list
> communi...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-india
For me the basic idea was to represent different parts of India in the
> community-india mailing list
> communi...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-india
council through a Rep. Ideally, it should then be at least 29, but that
is neither realistic nor practical. 3 would be too few in the council to
represent the whole of India properly and make informed decisions. We
need to figure that out. Maybe the veterans on the list can guide ?
Hari Prasad Nadig
Nov 24, 2011, 8:43:21 AM11/24/11
to Kinshuk Sunil, Arun Prakash, communi...@lists.mozilla.org
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Kinshuk Sunil <kin...@mozillaindia.org>wrote:
>
> For me the basic idea was to represent different parts of India in the
> council through a Rep. Ideally, it should then be at least 29, but that is
> neither realistic nor practical. 3 would be too few in the council to
> represent the whole of India properly and make informed decisions. We need
> to figure that out. Maybe the veterans on the list can guide ?
>
In my opinion, more the merrier!
>
> For me the basic idea was to represent different parts of India in the
> council through a Rep. Ideally, it should then be at least 29, but that is
> neither realistic nor practical. 3 would be too few in the council to
> represent the whole of India properly and make informed decisions. We need
> to figure that out. Maybe the veterans on the list can guide ?
>
If I've understood the proposal correctly, the idea of the council is to
create responsibilities that help grow community at regional centers. For
this, we would definitely need more people on board for a country as
diverse as India.
In fact, the community will require several hands at every point of time
helping as much as they can. So, there should be provision to include more
potential contributors as needed as and when the activities expand and the
people involved grow in number.
There will be time when some of the initial members may not be around or
active - whether it is for personal reasons or plainly being 'not
available'. Those would be times when it helps having more people on board.
However, going by my experience working with Wikimedia community in India,
it is important to note that positions in the community like these would be
purely voluntary and come with tremendous responsibility. This wouldn't be
a seat to occupy, rather an opportunity to signup for plenty of work
without pay, or without a guaranteed position in any formal entity. Like
Kinshuk has mentioned on his earlier email, the responsibility is up for
grabs and people are free to sign-up :-)
Since the community is still in very nascent form, the responsibilities of
these initial members would be huge. So, an advance 'Bravo!' to those who
signup.
sai kiran
Nov 25, 2011, 11:39:15 AM11/25/11
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Hello Mozillians
Its an awesome initative from Kinshuk Sunil Sir, I feel very proud to be
Mozilla India family as Mozilla Ind rep with a encouraging Mentor like
Vineel sir and as part of that I maintains a Local Mozilla community to
elevate the open source technologies and Mozilla.(
http://www.facebook.com/groups/193363217402727/) what sir has said is
exactly right , To expand the community reps must arrange the regular
events at colleges and at their local communities.As a part of Im also
planning for a couple of events on Mozilla and Open source at 3 districts
from Andhra Pradesh with the help of Vineel sir. Im always ready to
contribute my part for the community..
Regards
A.Sai Kiran
Mozilla Ind Rep
Its an awesome initative from Kinshuk Sunil Sir, I feel very proud to be
Mozilla India family as Mozilla Ind rep with a encouraging Mentor like
Vineel sir and as part of that I maintains a Local Mozilla community to
elevate the open source technologies and Mozilla.(
http://www.facebook.com/groups/193363217402727/) what sir has said is
exactly right , To expand the community reps must arrange the regular
events at colleges and at their local communities.As a part of Im also
planning for a couple of events on Mozilla and Open source at 3 districts
from Andhra Pradesh with the help of Vineel sir. Im always ready to
contribute my part for the community..
Regards
A.Sai Kiran
Mozilla Ind Rep
Message has been deleted
Axel Hecht
Dec 8, 2011, 9:04:17 AM12/8/11
to
first of all thanks to Kinshuk coming up with a plan, and the volunteers
that chime in.
I'd also like to support hpnadig in his observations. I'd like to share
my experiences as a member of the board of Mozilla Europe. We created
that structure in the early days of the Foundation, to support the
community in Europe. Today, we find that structure to be obsoleted by
the global efforts of Mozilla, in particular, the Mozilla Reps program.
As a result, we're decommissioning the legal structure, freeing up our
time to actually do things. Another interesting observation is that the
impact of Europe in Mozilla and vice versa is done by people,
independent of their status within the Mozilla Europe organization.
On a more general note, a lot of nascent communities try to give
themselves a structure, legal or not. When communities age, they tend to
make those less formal, though.
That said, you should build the tools that enable you to rock and make
Mozilla better. I'd ask you to challenge yourselves, though, and with
each formal step, ask how that particular structure enables people to do
something that they couldn't do without that structure.
HTH
Axel
Ameen
Dec 8, 2011, 9:20:23 AM12/8/11
to communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Hey guys,
I'd been lurking around these mailing lists ever since I applied to be a
Mozilla Campus Rep. I wanted to bring Mozilla Firefox back to the front, I
wanted to talk about an open web, I wanted to enlighten people about what
the Mozilla foundation does, and why we do it. Unfortunately, I couldn't do
as much as that as I would've liked thanks to my personal life. But I still
believe in what Mozilla stands for, I now more than ever believe in an Open
Web, and I can't digest the fact that Firefox has been beaten by Chrome,
thanks to huge marketing efforts (and advertising millions) by Google.
We need a clear structure, a feeling of togetherness, were all of those
believe in this message meet together, and brainstorm on how to drive the
message that we're supposed to do. And I fully support this overhaul and
hope to be a part of this. We need weekly if not a biweekly meetings on
#IRC channels, we need to incorporate this into our personal lives. And I
hope we get to that point pretty soon, because we need to get there. I
believe Google's Chrome efforts and the NaCl push would be hampering to the
Open Web movement.
There's lots to discuss about, but way to little time, we need to get on
this asap. I'm from Chennai and I'll try to get in touch with Dwarakanth
and set something tangible. Hope and wishes! All the best to everyone's
efforts, Cheers!
Regards,
Ameen.
I'd been lurking around these mailing lists ever since I applied to be a
Mozilla Campus Rep. I wanted to bring Mozilla Firefox back to the front, I
wanted to talk about an open web, I wanted to enlighten people about what
the Mozilla foundation does, and why we do it. Unfortunately, I couldn't do
as much as that as I would've liked thanks to my personal life. But I still
believe in what Mozilla stands for, I now more than ever believe in an Open
Web, and I can't digest the fact that Firefox has been beaten by Chrome,
thanks to huge marketing efforts (and advertising millions) by Google.
We need a clear structure, a feeling of togetherness, were all of those
believe in this message meet together, and brainstorm on how to drive the
message that we're supposed to do. And I fully support this overhaul and
hope to be a part of this. We need weekly if not a biweekly meetings on
#IRC channels, we need to incorporate this into our personal lives. And I
hope we get to that point pretty soon, because we need to get there. I
believe Google's Chrome efforts and the NaCl push would be hampering to the
Open Web movement.
There's lots to discuss about, but way to little time, we need to get on
this asap. I'm from Chennai and I'll try to get in touch with Dwarakanth
and set something tangible. Hope and wishes! All the best to everyone's
efforts, Cheers!
Regards,
Ameen.
KR¡§HN@ KµM@R d€€P ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dec 8, 2011, 11:14:56 AM12/8/11
to Ameen, communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Ameen +1 to you.
Krishna Kumar Deep
+918237370216
Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t
be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people’s
thinking. Don’t let the noise of other’s opinions drown out your own inner
voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and
intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become.
Everything else is secondary... *Steve Jobs*
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+918237370216
Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t
be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people’s
thinking. Don’t let the noise of other’s opinions drown out your own inner
voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and
intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become.
Everything else is secondary... *Steve Jobs*
Vineel Reddy Pindi
Dec 10, 2011, 12:51:59 PM12/10/11
to communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Hi all,
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Vineel Reddy Pindi <
pindivin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kinshuk, Thanks for sharing your ideas for Mozilla in India.
>
> Thanks so much, Hari, Anup, Arun, Sai Kiran for your feedback! We'd
> definitely need your help in going forward.
>
> Srikar and Pavan, Thanks for your interest in Mozilla. Please look for my
> email that i will be sending you shortly.
>
Thank you Axel for the suggestions!
I realized, the reply i sent to this thread got bounced! So here i am
sharing it again:
Absolutely agree with Kinshuk on having synchronized all India campaigns
and collaborating with other Communities.
Regarding the executive body for the community, its a bit early for us to
have such a body/council and it may bring unwanted complexity, i personally
feel that. At first, we may want to focus on:
a.) the areas of contributions: For this we need members who can take
responsibility of respective functionality and be a mentor for any new
member who want to participate in that area.
b.) growing and nurturing the community: For growing the community at
regional level, Mozilla Reps program [1] is the best way to go. Mozilla
reps because, as of now we have infrastructure/resources to support reps.
Reps are encouraged to build-on and support existing/future local community
efforts and programs. We should aim to have at-least one regional leader
per state/region. Please note that, Mozilla reps program DO NOT replace or
undermine efforts by existing community of Mozilla volunteers.
Community growth can be seen when there is development at an individual
level. Mentoring/nurturing is important for growth.
Based on the key finding from Mozilla Hispano community [2], which is one
of the largest, active and veteran regional communities, we can have a
organizational structure for Mozilla India in two phases:
Mozilla India regional community:
The regional community can be structured based on set of project areas to
which contributors are assigned. The internal activities of the members of
the project can be described as below, and any community member can be part
of it by participating in it.
- User: Anyone visiting the project.
- Contributor: User who contributes and helps the project to proceed.
- Committee Member: Active contributor who has the right to vote in the
decisions of the project.
- Mentor: Contributor(may have experience/expertise in a area) with
their experience can guide newly joined community members. Mentors help
mentorees become future mentors.
Phase I:
Open various areas of contribution at Mozilla India
1. Technical Management: Access to the housing master control,
databases, disk space, use of bandwidth and CPU, installation,
configuration and management modules, and support other areas responsible
for the management modules.
2. Moderation: Defining hierarchies of forums and mailing lists,
moderating role assignment most active collaborators, moderating forums,
answers to queries.
3. Documentation: Control and organization of the wiki documentation,
review of contributions from other members, developing and maintaining
FAQs, incorporating produced answers to common questions in forums and
mailing lists. Preparation of tutorials.
4. PR: Writing articles, news gathering and translation of Mozilla
community sources in English (Mozilla Foundation, Mozilla Links, ...),
translation teams update product information at home, organizing
regular meetings on IRC.
5. Labs: Development of projects and assists users in the
development forums.
6. Marketing: Spreading the word, marketing campaigns, events and all
kinds of coordination to promote Mozilla in India.
7. Localization/L10n: Help making Firefox, Thunderbird and other
projects available
in Indian language <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n>s. Also help tell
your people about how Mozilla is building a better Internet by translating
content <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Web_parts> on Mozilla web sites.
8. Design: We believe in the power of well-made and widely distributed
art, and want to make it possible for artists to cover the web and
people with designs inspired by Mozilla.
9. Support: Help users get the most out of using Firefox and other
Mozilla projects.
Step 1. A ‘Provisional Mentoring Body’ can be invited to take charge of
each area in Phase I, based on their recent(past 6 months) contributions to
Mozilla in India.
Step 2. Community members take responsibility at respective area of
interest. Each area will have one mentor in-charge + a set of contributors.
Mentor's encourage contributors to document his/her activities during this
period to learn and grow accordingly.
Step 3. A community member should actively participate for three months in
any area of interest, in order to be proposed as a ‘Committee
Member’(official member). These members are entitled to take decisions/
vote at respective areas at Mozilla India.
In areas without mentors/responsibility, it will be among several members
who want to help when making decisions about the area, all of them must
vote to agree (simple majority). That is, members from the committee form a
responsible staff, but having to agree on everything they do between them.
The goal of Phase I, is to let every contributor/community member have a stake
in the regional community - Mozilla India.
Phase II:
Once we have a dedicated enthusiastic team contributing on various areas.
These active community members + the provisional mentors can apply for the
next term(6 months or 1 year?).
Committee Member
- How do one qualify an contributor as a member entitled to vote?
- A contributor who during a period of not less than three months remain
contributing to the project may be proposed as a member with voting
rights, both by himself and by any of the current voting members.
- After that, the current members must vote on the merits earned by
the contributor to give approval, the negative votes must be
accompanied by
an objective explanation.
- Accumulation of merit:
- For the forums will have the quality (not necessarily quantity) of
the interventions, performances spam cleaning, material responses,
responses with reference to Frequently Asked Questions, etc..
- For PR, In the news section will look at the news published and
response time for the original story and creating their own articles.
- In the area of documentation issues look and quality of written
documentation.
- The control need not be exhaustive, but if someone raised doubts
about the legitimacy of the voting power of another member.
- There are active and absent members. All members are entitled to be
absent for a period of time (up to 8-10 weeks in a period of 6 months?) of
the project for whatever reason, during this time, membership status (no
charge). This fact must be communicated by concerned himself to be
considered as an absence and not lack of cooperation.
- If a member wants to leave the committee, we may vote for a new
proposed member to replace the former. The former member lose their status.
- Any member may at any time review the status of another member. In
this case, evaluate the contributions of the member in the last six months
and must be voted by an absolute majority of all members if you are
repealing member status of the project. May regain its status on the basis
of the above under "How do you qualify an contributor as a member entitled
to vote?"
Mentors
A mentor is a contributor(may have experience/expertise in a area) who
voluntarily guide new community members providing information,
collaboration tools and knowledge to promote and encourage their
participation in the project, so this is as active and fulfilling possible.
Requirements to become a mentor, a mentor must meet at least some set of
requirements:
- Bring in the community long enough to know all its internal
organization.
- Having worked in the Community at least one project.
- Have basic knowledge of the area pretending to be a mentor.
- Show initiative and personal treatment facility.
- Mentors help mentorees become future mentors.
To mentor listed as "official", the person must communicate with any other
current mentor area and spend time as a co-mentor before becoming a
mentor.This means that the first rookie will take together and guided by
the current mentor, who will teach the basic mechanisms for the role of
mentor.
Responsibilities
- Each area will have one mentor in-charge and a variable number of
contributors. Preferably, it will prevent a single community member
responsible for several areas.
- The role is responsible for defining tasks, prioritize to get the best
possible progress and review its implementation. Mentor can also
collaborate to drive the execution itself, but should not be their main
task.
- The mentor has the final decision in case of conflict in the
respective area. If the conflict still arises, the case/issue should be
taken to Committee panel. Decisions taken under this point must be
consistent with the previous objective of securing the best possible
progress in the area.
- Responsible positions shall be elected every six months(?). A
mentor/contributor who hold a position of responsibility will be eligible
for re-election. In the election of each area will vote all voting members
of the project, but be limited to the census of an area to contributors in
that area.
- Whoever takes over an area, have temporary leeway to decide what to do
and what not to do with the perspective that every so often assess what has
been done and what is not. Specifically, the veto it has to add things and
in no case be removed functionality in an area without an absolute majority
of the members of the project. By the time of voting, if the person is very
nice but rejected ideas that require a lot of effort without a reasonable
number of volunteers, or just crazy ideas, should have no problem retaining
his office. In turn, the proponent of these ideas is encouraged to look
like, as well as an idea, a commitment to take it forward. Records forums,
mailing lists and wiki should serve to make a fair trial.
Thanks again, Kinshuk for bringing this up. I am very happy that we are
discussing these things. :)
All kinds of suggestions, comments are welcome!
Regards,
Vineel
[1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo
[2] http://www.mozilla-hispano.org/
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Vineel Reddy Pindi <
pindivin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kinshuk, Thanks for sharing your ideas for Mozilla in India.
>
> Thanks so much, Hari, Anup, Arun, Sai Kiran for your feedback! We'd
> definitely need your help in going forward.
>
> Srikar and Pavan, Thanks for your interest in Mozilla. Please look for my
> email that i will be sending you shortly.
>
Thank you Axel for the suggestions!
I realized, the reply i sent to this thread got bounced! So here i am
sharing it again:
Absolutely agree with Kinshuk on having synchronized all India campaigns
and collaborating with other Communities.
Regarding the executive body for the community, its a bit early for us to
have such a body/council and it may bring unwanted complexity, i personally
feel that. At first, we may want to focus on:
a.) the areas of contributions: For this we need members who can take
responsibility of respective functionality and be a mentor for any new
member who want to participate in that area.
b.) growing and nurturing the community: For growing the community at
regional level, Mozilla Reps program [1] is the best way to go. Mozilla
reps because, as of now we have infrastructure/resources to support reps.
Reps are encouraged to build-on and support existing/future local community
efforts and programs. We should aim to have at-least one regional leader
per state/region. Please note that, Mozilla reps program DO NOT replace or
undermine efforts by existing community of Mozilla volunteers.
Community growth can be seen when there is development at an individual
level. Mentoring/nurturing is important for growth.
Based on the key finding from Mozilla Hispano community [2], which is one
of the largest, active and veteran regional communities, we can have a
organizational structure for Mozilla India in two phases:
Mozilla India regional community:
The regional community can be structured based on set of project areas to
which contributors are assigned. The internal activities of the members of
the project can be described as below, and any community member can be part
of it by participating in it.
- User: Anyone visiting the project.
- Contributor: User who contributes and helps the project to proceed.
- Committee Member: Active contributor who has the right to vote in the
decisions of the project.
- Mentor: Contributor(may have experience/expertise in a area) with
their experience can guide newly joined community members. Mentors help
mentorees become future mentors.
Phase I:
Open various areas of contribution at Mozilla India
1. Technical Management: Access to the housing master control,
databases, disk space, use of bandwidth and CPU, installation,
configuration and management modules, and support other areas responsible
for the management modules.
2. Moderation: Defining hierarchies of forums and mailing lists,
moderating role assignment most active collaborators, moderating forums,
answers to queries.
3. Documentation: Control and organization of the wiki documentation,
review of contributions from other members, developing and maintaining
FAQs, incorporating produced answers to common questions in forums and
mailing lists. Preparation of tutorials.
4. PR: Writing articles, news gathering and translation of Mozilla
community sources in English (Mozilla Foundation, Mozilla Links, ...),
translation teams update product information at home, organizing
regular meetings on IRC.
5. Labs: Development of projects and assists users in the
development forums.
6. Marketing: Spreading the word, marketing campaigns, events and all
kinds of coordination to promote Mozilla in India.
7. Localization/L10n: Help making Firefox, Thunderbird and other
projects available
in Indian language <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n>s. Also help tell
your people about how Mozilla is building a better Internet by translating
content <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Web_parts> on Mozilla web sites.
8. Design: We believe in the power of well-made and widely distributed
art, and want to make it possible for artists to cover the web and
people with designs inspired by Mozilla.
9. Support: Help users get the most out of using Firefox and other
Mozilla projects.
Step 1. A ‘Provisional Mentoring Body’ can be invited to take charge of
each area in Phase I, based on their recent(past 6 months) contributions to
Mozilla in India.
Step 2. Community members take responsibility at respective area of
interest. Each area will have one mentor in-charge + a set of contributors.
Mentor's encourage contributors to document his/her activities during this
period to learn and grow accordingly.
Step 3. A community member should actively participate for three months in
any area of interest, in order to be proposed as a ‘Committee
Member’(official member). These members are entitled to take decisions/
vote at respective areas at Mozilla India.
In areas without mentors/responsibility, it will be among several members
who want to help when making decisions about the area, all of them must
vote to agree (simple majority). That is, members from the committee form a
responsible staff, but having to agree on everything they do between them.
The goal of Phase I, is to let every contributor/community member have a stake
in the regional community - Mozilla India.
Phase II:
Once we have a dedicated enthusiastic team contributing on various areas.
These active community members + the provisional mentors can apply for the
next term(6 months or 1 year?).
Committee Member
- How do one qualify an contributor as a member entitled to vote?
- A contributor who during a period of not less than three months remain
contributing to the project may be proposed as a member with voting
rights, both by himself and by any of the current voting members.
- After that, the current members must vote on the merits earned by
the contributor to give approval, the negative votes must be
accompanied by
an objective explanation.
- Accumulation of merit:
- For the forums will have the quality (not necessarily quantity) of
the interventions, performances spam cleaning, material responses,
responses with reference to Frequently Asked Questions, etc..
- For PR, In the news section will look at the news published and
response time for the original story and creating their own articles.
- In the area of documentation issues look and quality of written
documentation.
- The control need not be exhaustive, but if someone raised doubts
about the legitimacy of the voting power of another member.
- There are active and absent members. All members are entitled to be
absent for a period of time (up to 8-10 weeks in a period of 6 months?) of
the project for whatever reason, during this time, membership status (no
charge). This fact must be communicated by concerned himself to be
considered as an absence and not lack of cooperation.
- If a member wants to leave the committee, we may vote for a new
proposed member to replace the former. The former member lose their status.
- Any member may at any time review the status of another member. In
this case, evaluate the contributions of the member in the last six months
and must be voted by an absolute majority of all members if you are
repealing member status of the project. May regain its status on the basis
of the above under "How do you qualify an contributor as a member entitled
to vote?"
Mentors
A mentor is a contributor(may have experience/expertise in a area) who
voluntarily guide new community members providing information,
collaboration tools and knowledge to promote and encourage their
participation in the project, so this is as active and fulfilling possible.
Requirements to become a mentor, a mentor must meet at least some set of
requirements:
- Bring in the community long enough to know all its internal
organization.
- Having worked in the Community at least one project.
- Have basic knowledge of the area pretending to be a mentor.
- Show initiative and personal treatment facility.
- Mentors help mentorees become future mentors.
To mentor listed as "official", the person must communicate with any other
current mentor area and spend time as a co-mentor before becoming a
mentor.This means that the first rookie will take together and guided by
the current mentor, who will teach the basic mechanisms for the role of
mentor.
Responsibilities
- Each area will have one mentor in-charge and a variable number of
contributors. Preferably, it will prevent a single community member
responsible for several areas.
- The role is responsible for defining tasks, prioritize to get the best
possible progress and review its implementation. Mentor can also
collaborate to drive the execution itself, but should not be their main
task.
- The mentor has the final decision in case of conflict in the
respective area. If the conflict still arises, the case/issue should be
taken to Committee panel. Decisions taken under this point must be
consistent with the previous objective of securing the best possible
progress in the area.
- Responsible positions shall be elected every six months(?). A
mentor/contributor who hold a position of responsibility will be eligible
for re-election. In the election of each area will vote all voting members
of the project, but be limited to the census of an area to contributors in
that area.
- Whoever takes over an area, have temporary leeway to decide what to do
and what not to do with the perspective that every so often assess what has
been done and what is not. Specifically, the veto it has to add things and
in no case be removed functionality in an area without an absolute majority
of the members of the project. By the time of voting, if the person is very
nice but rejected ideas that require a lot of effort without a reasonable
number of volunteers, or just crazy ideas, should have no problem retaining
his office. In turn, the proponent of these ideas is encouraged to look
like, as well as an idea, a commitment to take it forward. Records forums,
mailing lists and wiki should serve to make a fair trial.
Thanks again, Kinshuk for bringing this up. I am very happy that we are
discussing these things. :)
All kinds of suggestions, comments are welcome!
Regards,
Vineel
[1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo
[2] http://www.mozilla-hispano.org/
Ramesh Sahu
Dec 10, 2011, 8:29:38 PM12/10/11
to Vineel Reddy Pindi, communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Hey Vineel,
Hi!! I really appreciate the initiative taken by Kinshuk and action plan suggested by you. Hoping for the best for a bright future of our community.I am working on Mascot Designing for the community and will revert you back soon.
-Cheers
Ramesh Kumar Sahu
Representative
Mozilla Reps
http://www.mozilla.org/contribute
________________________________
From: Vineel Reddy Pindi <pindivin...@gmail.com>
To: communi...@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2011 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Organisational Proposal for Mozilla India: A 3 Step Program
Hi all,
Responsibilities
Regards,
Vineel
Ashish Namdev
Dec 11, 2011, 12:08:04 AM12/11/11
to Ramesh Sahu, communi...@lists.mozilla.org, Vineel Reddy Pindi
Hey Vineel,
Hi! It is really appreciable work you all are doing , Making Mozilla India
Community more better .
Mozilla India Regional community will be a best platform for all the
Mentors and contributors of the community as well as For The
Volunteers also.
Hoping the Best For the future of This community.
cheers guys.
Regards ~
Ashish Namdev
Mozilla Student Reps. , Bhopal , India
ashish...@gmail.com
Hi! It is really appreciable work you all are doing , Making Mozilla India
Community more better .
Mozilla India Regional community will be a best platform for all the
Mentors and contributors of the community as well as For The
Volunteers also.
Hoping the Best For the future of This community.
cheers guys.
Regards ~
Ashish Namdev
Mozilla Student Reps. , Bhopal , India
ashish...@gmail.com
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