Constance Companion
CaptainMarts - "Constance"
Great to see an MG30 group.
I have just bought a 1972 MG30 however she was advertised as a 34ft
Morgan Giles that had a shortened bowsprit to make her 32ft LOA. Does
anyone know if this would indeed be a MG30 given these dimensions?
http://picasaweb.google.com/martin.raynor/20091101SailingToGibraltar#5413297198289896914
Also I am keen to get hold of a pushpit so i can attach a turbine and
maybe a solar panel on top. Any information on constructing their own
or knows where I could source one cheaply appreciated.
I will be based in Gibraltar for the next couple of months before
spending the year sailing around the med - would be great to meet any
other Morgan Giles boats on the journey so please email me if you'd
like to meet up along the way.
Best regards
Martin
Tony - Santana
[Sorry about the delay in moderating your first posting - it got
'lost' in my New Year stuff. Further postings will go through without
moderation.]
Whatever your boat is, it is not an MG30 unless it has had radical
surgery. The cabin top is different and longer, and, most telling,
the stem has a concave profile. I don't believe it is from the MG30
molds.
After the closure of the MG yard, more than just the MG30 molds were
bought by various others. I know, for example, that a longer ca. 35'
boat known as the Warrior and designed by Angus Primrose was produced
in some quantity. The most common version of that has an aft cabin and
a very distinctive cabin profile.
Your cabin top is similar to a Morgan Giles, butt then there were many
similar in those days. The stem, however, is not the Morgan Giles
line. So unless someone has lengthened the boat by extending the bow
(and may be the stern), I don't think this is a Morgan Giles design.
I would be interested to learn what it is. If you still think it is a
Morgan Giles, you could start researching through the general Morgan
Giles Yachts site at www.morgangilesyachts.org.uk
I hope to learn more.
regards, Tony
On 30 Dec 2009, 18:50, "CaptainMarts - \"Constance\""
<martin.ray...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Great to see an MG30 group.
>
> I have just bought a 1972 MG30 however she was advertised as a 34ft
> Morgan Giles that had a shortened bowsprit to make her 32ft LOA. Does
> anyone know if this would indeed be a MG30 given these dimensions?
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/martin.raynor/20091101SailingToGibraltar#...
kieron riley
well unlike tony i think it is a an mg 30 wiyh some alteration to the bow so
as to make a bow spit possible,your mast is way foward of the mast plate on
the coachroof but a few other things are so much the same i do think you
have what you think you have ,best of luck on your travels,Kieron(nirvana)
Tony - Santana
opinion Constance is not an MG30, nor, I think, a Morgan Giles. [I
realise I differ from Kieron here - nothing personal]. I will
substantiate:
It is possible Constance has had a bow extenstion to support the
cutter rig. I guess you would find evidence by an internal
examination.
However, the coach roof is not MG30. You have three pairs of port
holes in the main cabin - all MG30s have two. This is not the MG30
top mold. And to accommodate the extra length Constance would have
had to have a stern extension too. Now there was a way of doing top
molds during the late 60s & 70s and your top molding shows similar
features, especially in the cockpit combings, but it is not an MG30
top molding.
The deciding thing for me is this photo
http://picasaweb.google.com/martin.raynor/20091101SailingToGibraltar#5413277300706615490
- this is not an MG30 stern. OK so may be Constance had a stern
extension as well. But look at this photo:
http://picasaweb.google.com/martin.raynor/20091101SailingToGibraltar#5413252492326811938
I suppose the rubbing strakes could have been added, but there is a
recessed boot top line about 12" above the waterline. That is not
present in an MG30 and no one would have machined that out and risked
weakening the hull.
In my opinion it is not any sort of Morgan Giles - a nice boat none
the less and it seems you had a good trip. Where did you sail to
Gibraltar from?
regards, Tony
On 30 Dec 2009, 18:50, "CaptainMarts - \"Constance\""
<martin.ray...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Great to see an MG30 group.
>
> I have just bought a 1972 MG30 however she was advertised as a 34ft
> Morgan Giles that had a shortened bowsprit to make her 32ft LOA. Does
> anyone know if this would indeed be a MG30 given these dimensions?
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/martin.raynor/20091101SailingToGibraltar#...