Why don't we create a Mootools IDE

[Ren Yushiro]

I'm sure that with the help of an IDE, we'll be able to code a lot
faster, especially in big project (mine has more than 100 classes
already). I've searched for an IDE that help but couldn't. Aptana said
it supported mootools but it didn't understand mootools' great OOP.
I've tried Spket and gave them a lot of feature requests but it seems
like they like Ext.JS more.

So... Why doesn't the mootools community create one IDE that helps
showing the world how great mootools' OOP is? I've tried to use
Eclipse DLTK to build one but failed because my base is PHP & MySQL.
Anyone here with great skills in Java that will help us all?? :)

[Roman Land]

Vote +1

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[Ryan Florence]

What kind of features are you looking for?

I find TextMate to be customizable enough.

[Roman Land]

I use Netbeans, the colors are good (and customizable), got my own dark theme so let me know if your interested.. :)

BTW, TextMate is MAC only, other then developing for the iPhone (no other choice really) I dont like dealing with OSX, thanks to Steve Jobs and the Apple customer base (too much blind following for me!). 

I do not mean to inflame, so other then real non biased / inflammatory comments about the latter carry on..! ;)

[Oskar Krawczyk]

On a related note – is anyone aware of someone doing work in the MooTools-lint direction? 

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[Barry van Oudtshoorn]

I use Geany with a dark Tango theme I put together (http://www.barryvan.com.au/2009/01/geany-ide-tango-dark-colour-scheme/). It works well enough, but the symbol browser doesn't understand Moo classes. It handles object literals and function()-style objects well enough, though. The main reason I prefer it over Netbeans, Aptana, etc. is that it's incredibly light -- it loads in under a second, and has exactly the features I want. Also it's completely cross-platform (Linux, Windows, OS-X), so I can use the same IDE everywhere. :)

One day, when I've got the time, I'd like to hack at the symbol browser to make it work correctly.

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[Ryan Rampersad]

Aptana uses an outdated version of Mootools and you can't force it to use auto-completion and a newer version. I think this is because mootools doesn't by default have a java-doc like structure for the IDE to pull from.

I'd totally love some IDE.

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[ken]

My wish for a Mootooled IDE is runtime Object property introspection
just like Chrome's js console with autocompletion.

On Jan 21, 9:41 am, Ryan Rampersad <ryan.ramper...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aptana uses an outdated version of Mootools and you can't force it to use
> auto-completion and a newer version. I think this is because mootools
> doesn't by default have a java-doc like structure for the IDE to pull from.
>
> I'd totally love some IDE.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Barry van Oudtshoorn <
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> bvanoudtsho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  I use Geany with a dark Tango theme I put together (
> >http://www.barryvan.com.au/2009/01/geany-ide-tango-dark-colour-scheme/).
> > It works well enough, but the symbol browser doesn't understand Moo classes.
> > It handles object literals and function()-style objects well enough, though.
> > The main reason I prefer it over Netbeans, Aptana, etc. is that it's
> > incredibly light -- it loads in under a second, and has exactly the features
> > I want. Also it's completely cross-platform (Linux, Windows, OS-X), so I can
> > use the same IDE everywhere. :)
>
> > One day, when I've got the time, I'd like to hack at the symbol browser to
> > make it work correctly.
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> > On 20/01/10 23:36, Ryan Florence wrote:
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> > What kind of features are you looking for?
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> >  I find TextMate to be customizable enough.
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> >  On Jan 20, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Roman Land wrote:
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> >  Vote +1
>

[Ren Yushiro]

/**
* @class shape
*/
var shape = new Class({
getName : function() {
}
});

/**
* @class polygon
* @extends shape
*/
var polygon = new Class({
Extends : shape,
getWidth : function() {
},

getHeight : function() {
}
});

/**
* @type polygon
*/
var myPol = new polygon();

/**
* @type shape
*/
var someShape = new shape();

I need something that can help me know what functions inside the
variable myPol. For example, when I type myPol. the IDE will show a
dropdown with 3 options: getWidth, getHeight, getName

[fakedarren]

With regards to Aptana support - we were approached by their team and
asked to provide the necessary files to get autocompletion etc for
MooTools. Long story short, it's a very long and arduous task, and I
am waiting until MooTools 1.3 is out (which is not that far away) and
once that is done or close it is worth me spending the time doing.
Unfortunately it's not high enough priority for me to spend time on at
the moment.

Cheers
Darren

[Trevor Orr]

So then sometime in the near future Aptana will have auto completion and object property introspection for mootools? 

[Pete Duncanson]

This is way old now but still shows whats possible but with in Visual Studio:

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/04/24/javascript-intellisense-in-visual-studio-orcas.aspx

Seems you can comment up your JS just as you would for .net apps. "Might" be possible to create a patch doc file from the existing docs just for VS?

[fakedarren]

@Trevor Orr: Yes, I will get round to it soon enough, promise.

@Pete Duncanson: I have already written Intellisense for Visual Studio
for use with MooTools: http://code.google.com/p/mootoolsintellisense/.

On Jan 21, 7:24 pm, Pete Duncanson <pete.duncan...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> This is way old now but still shows whats possible but with in Visual
> Studio:
>

> http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/04/24/javascript-intellis...

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> Seems you can comment up your JS just as you would for .net apps. "Might" be
> possible to create a patch doc file from the existing docs just for VS?
>
>
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> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Trevor Orr <fract...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So then sometime in the near future Aptana will have auto completion and
> > object property introspection for mootools?
>

[Pete Duncanson]

@Pete Duncanson: I have already written Intellisense for Visual Studio
for use with MooTools: http://code.google.com/p/mootoolsintellisense/.

Awesome, I'll get it downloaded and installed and give it a whirl :)

[Thomas Aylott]

This has been around since 2008. http://subtlegradient.com/articles/2008/09/21/new_textmate_code_completion_and_smart_tooltips.html

http://github.com/subtleGradient/javascript.tmbundle

I also have a MooTools bundle but I haven’t updated it in a while.
Too busy working on MooTools itself ;)

— Thomas Aylott
SubtleGradient
MooTools

[Barry van Oudtshoorn]

I've been doing some browsing, and came across KomodoEdit (http://www.activestate.com/komodo_edit/). There's a "MooTools API catalog" plugin that provides popup details on most Moo functions (for example, typing "$each(" pops up "iterable, fn, binds", appropriately highlighted). It also does background checking of validity.

Doesn't do classes properly, though. :(

[Ren Yushiro]

I've tried everything we mentioned here but nothing really helps with
Mootools' OOP...
No IDE or editor + plugin can understand what a Mootools class is.
I can learn by heart all of the Mootools core function (there arent
too many anyway) but cant remember all the properties and functions in
one class I wrote... That's why I (and we) need a Mootools OOP
supported IDE.

[Roman Land]

Hi,

I found out that IDEs that use the newer JSDoc-toolkit (vs old JSDoc) allow you to actually map functions to classes, these are processed and allow autocompletion (read how here)
http://code.google.com/p/jsdoc-toolkit/wiki/TagLends

I found out that only Aptana studio / Zend studio support this right now, I personally use the Netbeans IDE so I was not able to test this to verify, although this looks promising (worked for some guy for the Prototype-JS framework..)

Cheers
Roman

[Ren Yushiro]

The @lends tag looks promising. But Aptana doesn't support this tag.
It seems like Aptana used something like ScriptDoc, not JSDoc Toolkit.
I will try Zend Studio later zz

[Ren Yushiro]

http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/

Hi all! This IDE is supporting the @lends tag and looks quite good :D

[chone]

aptana is a good choose,but i just like vim 

[orefalo]

I personally use plain eclipse with this plugin

http://www.spket.com/javascript-editor.html

It does coloring, formatting, marks occurrences, finds syntax errors
(not all of them!). Code completion kind of work once you tell the
plugin to use mootools.js as a 3rd party lib.

Overall I can live with it, better than any of the other alternatives
posted earlier in this thread and only cost a few $.

Cheers,
Olivier Refalo

[Barry van Oudtshoorn]

Komodo Edit's good, too -- it's based on Mozilla's XUL platform, and
gives you MooTools autocompletion/intellisense (via addon); JS, CSS,
XML, HTML, Java, etc. syntax checking on the fly; and all the standard
editor-cum-pseudo IDE features that are considered standard. It'll
also give you autocompletion for projects. Plus it's free. :)

- barry

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[Matthew Hazlett]

I don't use an IDE, just ultraedit

http://www.ultraedit.com/