SRA survivor Carolyn Hamlett blows the whistle on Daniel Duval and Bride Ministries for covertly teaching occult practices

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WOW, and I was just starting to believe Daniel Duval was one of the best legit Christians around right now, especially on the spiritual/esoteric stuff, and then I come across this testimony from Carolyn Hamlett who's an alleged Illuminati defector who was one of Daniel's most famous clients who he helped counsel through Satanic Ritual Abuse. Turns out he's turned to the other side, or possibly was on the other side all along. Carolyn believes Daniel may be part of Satan's plans for an end-time scenario. A far-fetched claim to be sure, but these days, who knows?

Another obvious possibility is that Carolyn Hamlett (and her friend Loren Grace) are the ones working for the other side to discredit Daniel Duval, however her version of matters does seem sincere and accurate. At least at first glance.

Dave Hayes, Steve Harmon, Todd Bentley and Jeff Jensen are other occultists posing as Christians to be wary of, according to Carolyn.

Saturday, December 17, 2016

WHY I LEFT BRIDE MINISTRIES by Carolyn and Loren

Authored by Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace

Many people have asked me to further explain my reasons for leaving BRIDE Ministries. This article is part of a larger conversation that Loren Grace and I are going to be addressing in more detail in the future, God willing, but for now, this is the beginning. This article is long, but we encourage you to read it more than once, as there is much information to process.

In all seriousness... IF, after reading this article you have the misfortune of listening to or talking with Daniel Duval, we (Loren Grace and I) strongly advise that you come back and re-read this article to remind yourself of the truth! 

In early November I, Carolyn Hamlett, went public with my break from Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries. Please review this copy of my public announcement:


I, Carolyn Hamlett, have left BRIDE Ministries, The Fire Place Church, and everything associated with Daniel Duval and his ministries.
There is a parting of the ways because I find their new doctrines to be New Age, heretical and against the teachings in the Word of God and DANGEROUS! 
Once this was brought to Daniel Duval's attention, I discovered that he agreed with these heresies which are being pushed by some of the BRIDE Ministry and The Fire Place Church administrators.  
BRIDE Ministries is now working in concert with some ministries that are teaching New Age and Luciferian doctrine disguised as Christianity. This is VERY dangerous! I will be coming out with information soon which will clarify the specifics.
 What they are teaching is EXACTLY what I (as a child) was told by Satan's spiritual hierarchy would be the means that Lucifer (who is Satan) would use to take Christians away from the fundamental Bible teachings and into embracing Lucifer's theology. This is no small matter. This is a huge part of Satan's end time plan to take Christians by storm! 

If any accident, death, calamity or anything related to that happens to me or any of my loved ones, be very suspect of it and Please push to have a full investigation. In addition, I would never commit suicide. I have alerted some trusted professionals who are very aware of this situation and have taken note that I am of excellent mental clarity, soundness of mind and spirit. 
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If you notice…
(1) I stated why I left
(2) I also stated that the matter HAD been brought to Daniel Duval’s attention,
(3) and in fact, Daniel Duval agreed and supported the Luciferian doctrines. 
(4) I even stated how I know the doctrines are purely Luciferian doctrines. 

Something that I didn’t mention was the deceit and lying which I discovered has been a large part of the dynamics Daniel Duval, Darla Carver Guerra and associates have employed to manipulate, control and corral survivors who have innocently put their trust in Daniel Duval and associates. This is unconscionable!

I was not the first person who saw that Daniel Duval was teaching pure Luciferian doctrines and techniques. A few before me took this same matter to Daniel Duval according to the Biblical way to approach a brother in error. The consequence of these honest and well meaning people’s actions is that they were promptly ousted and lied about by Daniel Duval and Darla Carver Guerrawhich worked to discourage others from being in contact with those people and certainly not believing them if they were to contact those people. 

I just happen to be the first victim who has a voice to speak the truth and for that truth to be heard. 

The day after I posted my public announcement, Daniel Duval posted his own. It is no surprise that everything Daniel Duval said in regards to me in his announcement are complete lies. Why do people lie? To hide the truth! And as I just mentioned, I am not the first person who has been a threat to what he is hiding and probably not the last person either. 

Many people have thanked me for making my public announcement as it was confirmation to them as to why they had not been able to listen to Daniel Duval for months and that they were not alone in their seeing that Daniel Duval was teaching heresy. 

Others have condemned me for making the announcement public and accused me of some really terrible things. 

Speaking the truth is not for the weak. Though people claim to be all for the truth and for standing up for the truth, the raw fact is, when it comes down to it, few people have the fortitude (courage, bravery, endurance, resilience, moral fiber, strength of mind, strength of character, strong-mindedness, backbone, spirit, true grit, steadfastness; guts, BALLS) to stand for the truth. One must love the truth and others more than they love themselves in order to stand for the truth. The truth and standing for the truth must be more important than one’s own life. 

The easiest thing to do is often not the right thing to do. The easiest thing for me in life would have been to have never spent one day, one ounce of effort in exposing the works of darkness and pointing people to Jesus Christ who is Salvation. This hasn’t been an easy road to travel. Evil never likes the light being shed on them because it exposes them and takes away their power…and their prey. Therefore, evil does what it can to murder the truth and those who tell it. 

Someday all will know that my leaving Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries and making the public announcement was out of an act of love for others. In fact, any honest person who loves and cares for the well being of others would have done the same if they discovered what I had discovered. 

MY HEART IS FOR SURVIVORS

Anyone who knows me even a little, knows that I have a heart for survivors…so much so that I have spent nearly every waking hour of nearly everyday over the last 5 years doing what I can to help survivors.

It was out of my desire to help survivors that I sent so many people to the place where I believed they could find help and support. Until recently, that was to Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries.  

It was out of my desire to help survivors that I added a Paypal button on my website not for my own gain, but because I believed that those donations which went straight from my blog into the BRIDE Ministries account would be used to help survivors by covering the counseling costs provided by the associates being paid by BRIDE Ministries. I can’t help but wonder how much money actually went into BRIDE Ministries as a result of good hearted people giving from the Paypal button on my blog. My thanks to all of you with caring and generous hearts for also reaching out to do what you could to help survivors. 

It was also out of my desire to help survivors that I had planned to donate all of the proceeds of my book to BRIDE Ministries in support of survivors. Many of you probably heard me mention this on a program or two.  

Things abruptly changed early in the 3rd week of October. That was when I discovered the demonic things Daniel Duval and associates were teaching, promoting and practicing. In addition to this, I was on the board of BRIDE Ministries and I discovered decisions had been made without me and things had been kept from me. 

Contrary to what Daniel Duval has said/lied, my decision to leave BRIDE Ministries was not some rash unfounded decision that took place on Halloween. Also contrary to what Daniel Duval has said/lied, I did bring the full matter of my concerns to him and to Dr. Rob Ruckert and a few others, yet to no avail. There are other people still in BRIDE Ministries who know this is true. Two of them are still in charge of the survivors support groups and meetings. 

Here is an excerpt I, Carolyn Hamlett, sent to a few people in BRIDE Ministries before I made my final decision to leave BRIDE Ministries. This is on the tails of talking extensively with Daniel Duval and several others in BRIDE Ministries over my numerous concerns of the Luciferian doctrines being taught, practiced and promoted by in BRIDE Ministries, primarily by Daniel Duval, Darla Carver Guerra, and their associates and of their habitual deceitfulness (lying). My words fell on deaf ears. This was one of my final attempts to try to wake a few people up in BRIDE Ministries who also knew about the Luciferian teachings and the lies being told. I’ll never understand how people, especially Christians have no problem at all yoking themselves closely with deceitful liars. It certainly isn’t a wise thing to do and according to the Bible (Revelation 21: 8), liars are such an abomination to God that their fate is the 2nd death. 

This excerpt I sent to a few people in BRIDE Ministries before I made my final decision to leave BRIDE Ministries…is how my heart still feels about the survivors in BM. The two people I was referring to are Daniel Duval and Darla Carver Guerra who habitually make very conscious choices to lie. 

My Excerpt:
"I AM TRYING TO PROTECT BRIDE MINISTRIES. MOST OF ALL, I AM TRYING TO PROTECT SURVIVORS WHO ARE BEING PUT UNDER THE CARE OF TWO PEOPLE WHO CAN NOT BE TRUSTED TO TELL THE TRUTH. 
WHY IS IT SO OFFENSIVE TO PEOPLE HERE IN BRIDE WHEN I CALL A LIAR A LIAR? THIS IS VERY SERIOUS MATTER!!!!! THE INFORMATION I AM PROVIDING AS WELL AS MY PERSONAL TESTIMONY COMING FROM MY CHARACTER SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO PROVE MY POINT.  
DO I NEED TO DEFINE FOR YOU WHAT A LIAR IS? LOOK IT UP! A LIAR IS A PERSON WHO TELLS LIES. IT IS A PERSON WHO IS DECEITFUL. LOOK UP THE WORDS, DECEIT AND DECEITFUL. A LIAR IS A CON. LOOK UP THE WORD CON. 
YOU PEOPLE MUST ASK YOURSELVES IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT SURVIVORS. IF SO...THEN WHY DO YOU PUT THEM IN THE CARE OF A LIAR? AM I BEING HARSH? IF THAT THOUGHT HAS EVEN ENTERED YOUR MIND, THEN YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS IN MINISTRY ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO VICTIMS OF SRA AND PROGRAMMING." 

I was not the first person who saw that Daniel Duval was teaching pure Luciferian doctrines and techniques. A few before me took this same matter to Daniel Duval according to the Biblical way to approach a brother in error. The consequence of these honest and well meaning people’s actions is that they were promptly ousted and of course lied about by Daniel Duval and Darla Carver Guerra which worked to discourage others from being in contact with those people and certainly not believing them if they were to contact those people.


My Public Announcement - Why It Was Necessary 

   
It was necessary that I make my split with Daniel Duval, his “ministries” and associates public for several reasons. 

(1) Many of the people who have gone to Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries are there because they trusted me when I had previously publicly stated that Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries and associates was a safe place for survivors of SRA and high level programming to receive help and sound Christian fellowship. 

If I had not made it public that I was no longer associated with Daniel Duval and ministries and why… how would anyone know I was not in agreement with Daniel Duval and his teachings and practices and his associates and “coaches” who are teaching and practicing Luciferian doctrines and methods? 

(2) Daniel Duval and some of his associates were deceptively using my name to draw people in under the false presences that I was totally on board with all Daniel Duval’s teaching which includes the “courtroom in heaven” and related doctrines, the “spirit man” doctrines, the doctrines of “redemptive gifts,” “shining ones” doctrine aka “Manifested sons of God,” seeing in the spirit,” “traveling in the spirit,” entering into people’s dreams, and numerous other teachings that come from Lucifer/Satan himself. (I will be going into more detail and explanation on these individual doctrines at a later date.)

Again, if I had not made it public that I was no longer associated with Daniel Duval and ministries, and why I was not, then how would anyone know that I was not on board with their “christian” occult teachings, as Daniel Duval and associates were leading people to believe?

With my announcement public, Daniel Duval and associates could no longer make the false claim that I support them and their teachings and practices. 

(3) The last reason why I publicly made a split with Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries was because of trust. TRUST is a HUGE issue for victims of SRA or any type of abuse or any type of mind control programming. Anyone who is a victim of such or works with victims of such KNOWS this!
I do not take it lightly when deceit and flat out lies are used to victimize anyone!!! … Most especially when the deceitful liars happen to be the very people in charge of the well being and support of former victims of the above mentioned atrocities! (Daniel Duval is included in this). 
In addition…..there are two “shepherdesses” (Darla Carver Guerra and Karolyn Otlewski) whom Daniel Duval has put in charge of the survivors support groups. These two (Darla Carver Guerra and Karolyn Otlewski) were deliberately persuading the innocent to put their blind trust in them by using my name and good reputation by telling the survivors and others that they are my close friends, and that if they (survivors and others) trust me, then they can trust them! Once the trust was established using my name to get it, the “shepherdesses” began to indoctrinate the survivors and others into pure occult practices under the guise of spiritual warfare. As I mentioned in the beginning of this article, I recognized the teachings for what they are because of my background in Lucifer’s spiritual hierarchy. Lucifer is Satan and the teaching and practices being peddled by Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries as being of God are in fact straight from Lucifer himself.  

If I had not made my split with BRIDE Ministries, Daniel Duval and associates publichow would anyone know that I was NOT in agreement with Darla Carver Guerra and Karolyn Otlewski? They wouldn’t. My bet is both Darla and Karolyn would still be using my name as the means to gain the trust of the innocent so they could continue leading people into the occult practices. At the very least, if I had not made my split public knowledge, innocent people would still be assuming that they could trust Daniel Duval and associates and that I was fully supportive of everything going on in the “ministries.” They would still be believing the lies and everything that Darla Carver Guerra and Karolyn Otlewski were promoting. 

With my announcement public, Darla Carver Guerra and Karolyn Otlewski can no longer make the false claim that I support them and their teachings and practices.

Anyone who truly cares for the well being of survivors would insure that the survivors are put in the care of honest trustworthy people. And yet, Darla Carver Guerra, the primary person in charge of the care of the survivors and their support has been proven to be a habitual liar. This matter with proof was brought to the attention of Daniel Duval and Dr. Robert Ruckert among others and was ignored.

All the reasons above are just some of the reasons I can no longer support Daniel Duval, BRIDE Ministries and associates and why it was necessary that I make my decision public. 

Someday all will know that my leaving Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries and making the public announcement was out of an act of love for others. In fact, any honest person would have done the same if they discovered what I had discovered. 

In The Beginning…

When I first brought my concerns to Daniel Duval, he ignored my concerns and twisted the conversation around as if I was upset over a single book and a single person. 

I brought to the attention of Robert Ruckert and Dr. Preston Bailey, two of Ministries first two counselors (Dr. Bailey also being Daniel Duval’s mentor), in early November of this year, as to why I was divorcing myself from Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries. At first they both seemed to take my concerns seriously, and I even spoke at length with them on the telephone, addressing the many different concerns I had. 

Some of Dr. Bailey’s supportive comments in his emails to me include:
“Carolyn: I just sensed something strange has been going on there but I have not talked to me about what it was about. Would you mind telling me because I would believe you!” 
“When God spanks his children, it exposes all their sinful behavior!
“I would hate to be Daniel, Darla, and Bride Ministries!”  

Dr. Rob Ruckert commented: “...clearly Darla lied and avoided your questions - that is very clear.”

These comments, along with others in the emails and in private phone conversations, led me to think they understood what I was saying and that they were taking me seriously. I thought they understood the severity of the situation, that Daniel had dived head-first into Luciferian theology and practices.

However…after they spoke with Danieltheir attitude changed toward me, and my subsequent interactions with them left me realizing they now thought my concerns were about a single book or a single person! Their previous stated concerns over Daniel teaching false doctrine seemed to melt away as soon as they spoke to Daniel! The issues I brought to them…issues they had agreed with me on and had expressed understanding to me about… didn’t bother them any longer after they spoke with Daniel! 

Dr. Bailey and Rob Ruckert’s about-face could possibly be chalked up to ignorance or misunderstanding, except for one thing: Bailey and Ruckert had already been clearly warned by my friend, Loren Grace, twice!…once in February 2016 and again in July 2016. 

And, I have since found out that many people have left BRIDE ministries and have had similar concerns over the same issues I have had concerns over. 

While there is MUCH to say about my divorce from BRIDE and separation from Daniel Duval, the greater issue I want to point out to you today is that this is not simply about Daniel Duval or BRIDE Ministries, but about Luciferian doctrine that has infiltrated Christian churches as a whole. This is a direct fulfillment of what I had been told would happen when I served in Lucifer’s hierarchy, and I am here to share with you HOW this is happening and what to look for, because it’s very insidious and not always easily recognizable unless you understand what to look for. Because I was involved with BRIDE Ministries at the time this infiltration became apparent to me, I am in the position to name BRIDE Ministries and Daniel Duval as being one of the many ministries that have been infiltrated and used by Lucifer to spread his doctrine. I don’t name names to be spiteful or because I get some sort of enjoyment out of it. It has caused me grief and confusion and anger. This is not easy to talk about at all! If it was I would have already had this written weeks ago. However, this situation is VERY important because it affects the entire Body of Christ! And for me, to be silent is morally and spiritually wrong when I know that innocent people are being victimized to the highest degree by TRUE wolves in sheep’s clothing. (More on this later.)

Like I stated earlier, this article is just the beginning of many conversations I plan on having, God willing, on this topic. For now, here is the testimony of Loren Grace. At the end of her testimony, I have added a little more of my own information which fully corresponds with the experiences of Loren Grace.

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Loren Grace's Commentary

Hi everyone, this is Loren. Some of you may remember me from the interview series I did on Daniel Duval's podcast with Carolyn Hamlett and Preston Bailey, “Are My Memories Real?” For the multitudes of you who don't know me, I am a survivor of an abusive childhood, including abuse at home, satanic ritual abuse, and trauma-based-mind-control programming. However, I am learning to overcome the traumas of this by the power of Jesus Christ. Healing, I have learned, is a lifestyle. There is no timeline for healing; it's a way of life, and one I am learning to walk in.

I am writing this to not only support Carolyn in the stand she has publicly taken in separating herself from BRIDE Ministries and Daniel Duval, but to also share a little bit about where I am coming from, having also recently separated myself from Daniel and his ministry (as of May 2016). And I believe our testimonies, although they come from two slightly different perspectives, shed light on the same issue, and point to the greater problem we have both experienced and seen with BRIDE Ministries. Although our experience lends itself to naming BRIDE Ministry and Duval as being part of the narrative, please be assured, this is not just about BRIDE or Duval. It is about Luciferian doctrine that has infiltrated and has now permeated the entire Body of Christ. Dan Duval is but a small part of the whole, and I truly believe now, regardless of the pain it caused me, that God purposefully had me in the right place at the right time to see this unfold for myself, so I could be in the position to warn others.

So for those who would be angry or incensed at me (or anyone else) “naming names,” (meaning, Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries), thinking we should somehow not speak out against those “brothers and sisters in Christ,” I would say: please reevaluate who, exactly, is your brother or sister in Christ. Jesus Himself said, “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” (Matthew 7:22-23) 
The point is, not everyone who calls on Jesus is actually working foror following after Jesus, and I am not so much concerned with protecting the perpetrators of evil, as I am speaking out for and defending the victims of that evil in whatever way my Creator God has me to do.

There are many who have infiltrated the Body of Christ and have now begun teaching Luciferian doctrine, and Duval is one such person. Personally, I believe he started off with a good heart and good intent, although I'm aware I could be wrong on that count, as well. But, I will give the benefit of the doubt, and concede that Dan started off doing the work of the Lord Jesus. However, it has gone south, and it is so far left field, it is nowhere near sound Biblical doctrine.


Pertinent Background

I am well-acquainted with Christian ministries and organizations that are occult/cult in nature. I was born into a cult that was posing as a Christian church (Apostolic/United Pentecostal*), full of abusers of all sorts, and not everyone there was a true Christian. Because of false doctrines of men and demons, those churches were not only a haven for base, abusive individuals with no moral compass, but also Satanists and Luciferians. There was heinous abuse of all sorts going on: physical abuse – particularly of women and children – sexual deviance of all kinds including child molestation and pornography, and mental and emotional abuse. Keeping all these other abuses tied up and hidden was the spiritual abuse, which is often the most insidious of all, because it can be very difficult to pinpoint, and even more difficult to come out of.

True, there were likely some people that attended those churches who were sincere Christians with a good heart, doing their best to follow God and do what was right. However, it's also true that I saw many of those good people leave the churches, because they could no longer follow after a religious doctrine that fostered and encouraged such an abusive, evil environment.

Scriptures were taken so out of context, and not applied properly at all. It was brought up to the pastor that there were children being raped in his congregation; nothing was done. It was brought to the attention of the pastor that women were being beaten and abused; nothing was done. Although homosexuality found within the world was hotly preached against, homosexuality within the church was not addressed. These are just examples. Perpetrators were protected and victims were vilified. No one was allowed to speak against the evil.

Anytime someone would bring up to the pastor the sins and abuses that were going on within their own families or with other church members, it was ignored. Women were commanded to submit to their husbands, and if a woman was being abused, it was assumed the woman was not pleasing her husband in some way, and would thus be reprimanded. Children were to submit to their parents, and so child abuse was ignored.

If anyone questioned the church leaders (who were also abusing the young children and teens in the congregation) scriptures were brought up, “Touch not God's anointed!” and “Submit to the leadership that is in authority over you!” Words were used to accuse whistleblowers, such as: Jezebel spirit, spirit of jealousy, spirit of rebellion, spirit of contention, etc.

Notice the theme? “The spirit” of this or that? As soon as someone pointed to a “spirit of” something or other they wanted others to think the whistleblower was operating out of, anything that person said to defend themselves or speak out against, just cemented in the collective minds of the cult, that the person truly was being used by or possessed of an evil spirit.

This was spiritual abuse at its worst. This was twisting Scripture for an ungodly purpose.
So all that background is to say this: if there is abuse going on, it doesn't matter who is the abuser, it needs to be spoken out against! Physical abuse, sexual abuse, mental or emotional abuse – it should not be tolerated. And spiritual abuse falls under the same category. Spiritual abuse is usually so insidious, that most people don't recognize it, or simply pretend it doesn't exist. But when abuses occur under the name of GOD, and the twisting of scriptures are used to abuse, control, manipulate, and harm people, this is spiritual abuse.

Spiritual abuse permanently damages the relationship between ourselves and the One Who loves us the most: our Creator. In my opinion, that is the most important of all relationships, and people who mess with this relationship have done serious damage to a person, and they need to be called out on it, no matter who they are.

* I highly recommend the document written by Paul Faby, “Origins of Pentecostalism and the Charismatic Movement.” (link:http://gospelhour.info/pdf/origins_of_pentecostalism.pdf) This documents, historically, the satanic influence on the charismatic movement. I do not personally endorse Faby, nor give a blanket endorsement of every single thing he has written or states, as I do not know him personally, nor have I read anything else of his, other than the above-mentioned document. I will not even go so far as to say I endorse every single point Faby writes about in the above-mentioned document, but his writing certainly paints a good, overall picture of the satanic origins of the Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement, and is good for general knowledge and self-education.

Speaking Out

I finally left BRIDE Ministries and Dan Duval's “counseling” in early May of 2016, after many conversations we (myself and my parts) and my husband had concerning how he was mistreating me, as his client. One major reason we were having so many problems (aside from the Luciferian doctrine, that is), is because Daniel Duval truly did not have a heart to help survivors, as he and others assert. He told me several times over the course of our 23 months together that helping survivors is not his main goal/mission/assignment from God. Building ‘sheep nations’ is his main goal/mission/assignment, not counseling survivors. When I would ask him, “Then why are you counseling us, if we aren’t your main concern?!” he would respond, “Because my clients are helping me achieve my mission.” 

Translation: Daniel is using survivors and our testimonies as stepping stones for him to achieve his career goals. I believe you can see the truth of this for yourself if you have even a basic understanding of how his “ministry” got started and who he has used to build his platform: survivors of SRA (satanic/sadistic ritual abuse) and TBMC (trauma-based mind control).
Personally speaking, I think that is a horrible and inappropriate attitude for a “counselor” to have towards his clients, and this didn’t inspire much trust towards him, as it caused more trauma to the attachment injuries I already have. 
How Daniel was mistreating me was bad enough for any client in the secular world to have cause to leave and find another counselor, so why should I be any different because the person counseling me was supposedly a “christian” and my insurance didn’t cover the $300 a month we were paying him to “help?” After all, a client should believe and trust that their counselor is 100% committed to his clients and has a heart to help them! And legitimate emergencies and occasional human error or misunderstanding aside, clientsshould be allowed to have certain expectations concerning the concrete nature of their appointments, just as much as the counselor should have certain expectations concerning the concrete nature of their appointments! And if the counselor continually cancels appointments or is otherwise distressing to the client in any way, the client should have a right to peacefully terminate the relationship. And the same goes for the counselor, too: if the client is constantly canceling or making life miserable for the counselor, the counselor has a right to terminate the counseling relationship, as well. 

Furthermore, call me crazy (many have…), but clients should not be ignored or unexpectedly and increasingly tossed aside for other “more important” assignments and appointments, nor should they be manipulated and spirituality and emotionally abused into thinking that GOD is the cause for the distress and canceled appointments! 
(As a side note to anyone reading this who is a survivor, especially someone with D.I.D. or related dissociative/trauma disorders: 
if you want a counselor to help you work through your issues, please find someone who is understanding, knowledgeable, and is trained in helping clients work through trauma injuries and attachment injuries. And if you find yourself in a situation where your counselor is not sensitive and respectful of the injuries you have as a client, FIRE THEM. It’s okay. It’s allowed. You aren’t a bad person for setting boundaries. It IS okay for you to leave and you should be respected for your decision, not lied about and gossiped about behind your back.) 
However, putting aside the issues I had with Daniel over my treatment as a client, I realize now, in retrospect, that the more important issue had been addressed a few months prior, during a particular series of email conversations in February of 2016, between myself, Daniel Duval, Preston Bailey, and Rob Ruckert.

(Bailey and Ruckert were the first two counselors that served as BRIDE Ministry coaches to help counsel survivors, and Preston Bailey has been touted as being Daniel’s mentor in understanding D.I.D. and related trauma issues, which was why it was important to me to go to those two men in particular.) 

One of Daniel’s clients had been constantly bringing up that his true nature (his spirit) was angelic, and that he was actually a human/angel hybrid on assignment from God – an angel walking around in human form. I had been trying to be kind and not stress this person out, so I kept my opinions to myself in an attempt to be supportive of this person. However, I became angry, frustrated, and confused when it came out that not only Danielbelieved this to be truth, but that in this client’s counseling session with Daniel Duval, “Jesus” had confirmed that this client was, in fact, angelic. So I brought the issue to all three men (Duval, Bailey, and Ruckert) at the same time, in the same email, trying to get to the bottom of this theology that I recognized as being unbiblical and ungodly. At the least, it was delusional. After all, it’s not uncommon for a person with D.I.D. to have parts that believe themselves to be angels, demons, animals, or even inanimate objects. But for a counselor to believe the delusions of his client to be true…? That didn’t make sense to me, and so I wanted to lay everything out on the table, in the open, and figure out what was going on and why. 
(I have copies of those emails in my journal, and may share them at a later date, if it’s appropriate, “X’ing” out the name of the client, of course, but it is CLEAR by the emails, that neither Rob Ruckert nor Preston Bailey were on board with the “angelic being” theology and that such a notion indicated delusion. The concern was also expressed by Rob Ruckert, that if that information were to be broadcast to Daniel’s podcast audience, it would hurt the credibility of BRIDE Ministries and the credibility of those of us who had done interviews with Daniel on his podcasts.) 
Daniel did not respond to any of the group emails between himself, Ruckert, Bailey, and myself, but instead telephoned me privately, and explained that the “angelic” claims were in regards to the “Shining Ones” theology. Although I was not initially on board at ALL with a HUMAN BEING having an “angelic” nature (or a “Shining Ones” nature), during that short conversation with Daniel, however, I began to be convinced that I had been wrong about the “Shining Ones” theology, and my counselor was correct. Within a few days, I was totally convinced. I know differently now, and I truly wish I would have listened to my first instinct about this delusional, demonic theology. But, after speaking with Daniel, I became mesmerized, and just agreed with what he told me at the time.
(This type of “mesmerizing,” I’ve since learned, is something that is common with people when they try to come against Duval and the false doctrine he is teaching. Let me be blunt and say, it’s demons working through Daniel that are throwing the wool over people’s eyes, deceiving them and blinding them to the truth.)

Eventually, I quit counseling, once and for all, in early May of 2016.

I am aware there was much gossip circulating around the “support group” about the circumstances surrounding the reasons for me leaving, and I was lied about by my ex-counselor, among others. It was said that I was jealous and crazy (in so many words). It was said that I was angry because Daniel canceled a counseling appointment we had, and that is why I quit, or, “fired” Daniel. But, I’ve addressed the rumors as much as I’m going to at this point, and I’m not going to address them further. They are ridiculous and baseless, and don't even make sense if people stop and think for themselves for a moment. Perhaps some other time (probably not) I will address the rest of the rumors. For now, however, it doesn't matter. And honestly, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter at all. Let people gossip and lie about me if they wish. They will one day stand before Creator God and give account for every single thing they have ever said and done – as will I – and that is good enough for me. So, right now, I will not further defend myself against ridiculous gossip.

What I will do, however, is share my experience in coming out of counseling with Duval. Carolyn Hamlett has plenty to share from her point of view, and after many conversations with her, I realize that our individual experiences have led us to same conclusion on exactly where this ungodly doctrine has come from.

Here are the nuts and bolts of the situation:

Luciferian doctrine has infiltrated Daniel Duval's ministry, and it is affecting his counseling relationships and his entire BRIDE ministry. The spirit man doctrine has led to the “Shining Ones” doctrine, and the “Shining Ones” doctrine has led to all other sorts of ungodly,occult activities. Bluntly put, Daniel Duval is exploiting the occult abilities of his clients – the abilities we learned through programming and trauma – to build his own career. 

There are many things to talk about related to this, and I hope I will have opportunity to share in the future, but what I'd like to do today, in this particular post, is give witness to everyone reading this article the warning I shared, via email, with two of Daniel Duval's trusted counselors in his ministry, Rob Ruckert and Preston Bailey. This is to let everyone know that warning WAS given; unfortunately, however, at the time of this writing, warning has not been heeded. Therefore, in remembering my childhood where abuses were going on and no one did anything about it, I am doing what I can to share my warning of spiritual abuse that is going on and that I have personally experienced, and doing my part in warning others that there is Luciferian doctrine being preached that needs to be avoided! 

Others may stay silent in the face of abuse and ungodly, unbiblical, Luciferian doctrine; I will not. 


Background Email

First: background.

I emailed Preston Bailey first, to ask him what he thought of certain doctrines that had come up in my counseling with Daniel Duval. I absolutely knew whatI believed, but I wanted to hear from Preston – Daniel's proclaimed mentor – first-hand. I wanted to know if I had a chance to actually be heard by Preston, in particular. So, here is my first email, and his response (the bolded parts in the body of the emails are original, and not my addition):


Subject: Hi! Just a Few Questions
From: Loren Grace
To: Bailey
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016


Hi Dr. B,

Sorry to bug you. :) I know it's been quite a while, but I have a few questions, and since I don't have a pastor, and since I am generally inclined to respect your viewpoint, I am very curious about your thoughts and opinion.

First, have you ever heard of the doctrine of the "manifest sons of God," and if so, what is your general stance on it? Can you please share with me clear Scripture backing up your opinion, one way or the other?

Second, concerning the manifest sons of God thing and assuming it IS true, do you think it is reasonable to assume that the revealing of these "sons of God" in the last days would manifest in the spirits of that special group of humans overcoming the physical bodies of those humans, resulting in them becoming invincible and unable to be killed? Imperishable, even? Almost as if they became super-human, or something? Or, to put it another way, overcoming the physical limitations as their spirit overtook their flesh? If you agree with this, can you please point to clear Scripture that backs up this doctrine? If you disagree, why?

Third, what do you think of the interesting phenomenon of angels emailing people to give them messages from God? Is there Biblical precedence for this? I know Gmail isn't mentioned in the Bible (lol), but is there precedence for something like ... idk.... carrier pigeons or some other middle source being bearers of angelic missives written on parchment paper, or something of the like? I realize that angels often appeared to people to give them messages to give to OTHER people, but is there an instance where actual people were bypassed altogether and instead technology of any particular era was used to communicate a heavenly message? If so, can you share those Scriptures or even historic instances with me?

I'm just curious to get your opinion and Biblical thoughts on these things.

Thanks in advance, and I appreciate your discretion in keeping my new email address private. :)

Loren

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From: Bailey
To: Loren
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016


Loren:
“First, have you ever heard of the doctrine of the "manifest sons of God," and if so, what is your general stance on it? Can you please share with me clear Scripture backing up your opinion, one way or the other?”


I do not believe in it because historical "cult" leaders started the teaching such as William Branham.

"The Charismatic Dominionism expressed in spiritual warfare and the current signs and wonders movement is largely an extension of the Manifest Sons of God doctrine" which I also reject. Read the above link and it explains it very well.

“Second, concerning the manifest sons of God thing and assuming it IS true, do you think it is reasonable to assume that the revealing of these "sons of God" in the last days would manifest in the spirits of that special group of humans overcoming the physical bodies of those humans, resulting in them becoming invincible and unable to be killed? Imperishable, even? Almost as if they became super-human, or something? Or, to put it another way, overcoming the physical limitations as their spirit overtook their flesh? If you agree with this, can you please point to clear Scripture that backs up this doctrine? If you disagree, why?”

No. I do not believe that at all.

Our bodies are perishable:

1 Cor 13:10-11 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. NIV

The Bible refers to our "flesh" as our sinful man.

“Third, what do you think of the interesting phenomenon of angels emailing people to give them messages from God? Is there Biblical precedence for this? I know Gmail isn't mentioned in the Bible (lol), but is there precedence for something like ... idk.... carrier pigeons or some other middle source being bearers of angelic missives written on parchment paper, or something of the like? I realize that angels often appeared to people to give them messages to give to OTHER people, but is there an instance where actual people were bypassed altogether and instead technology of any particular era was used to communicate a heavenly message? If so, can you share those Scriptures or even historic instances with me?

I have done an extensive study on every verse in the Bible that refers to angels. Angels translated means "messenger" that bring an answer of prayer from God the Father to the Christian on earth.

I have never heard of an angel sending emails to people. I personally have experienced very wild things regarding angels but not emails, letters, or telegrams come from angels. God does not work that way.

There are actually 9 orders of angelic beings in heaven and "angels" is only one of these 9 orders.

“I'm just curious to get your opinion and Biblical thoughts on these things.”

I suggest that you avoid becoming enmeshed with the historical false doctrine of the messengers of God that is not recognized by orthodox Christianity. It will only lead to confusion and guiding you in the wrong direction. Satan uses half-truths to deceive us.

Today there are numerous denominations that teach weird things. When in doubt, go with what was taught by the church throughout history mainly from 300 A.D. which is the time of the early church fathers to the 1500's.

God bless you!

Dr Bailey

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From: Loren Grace
To: Bailey
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016


Thanks for your thoughts and for sharing the scriptures and the link. I'll read up on that link. I agree with what you said, but having been raised in the environment I was raised in, certain things are ingrained inside my head -- programmed in my heart, if you will -- and it can be very difficult to trust my instinct or discernment when I sense something is not right. So it's helpful to have the wisdom from someone who has more experience and less baggage than myself.

That said, I have another email to send to you, but I want to send it to both you and Dr. Rob. It's rather long, and I apologize for that, but it was impossible to explain the things I needed to explain without a certain amount of detail.

Loren

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(end of emails)


When writing this next email, I was trying to keep in mind my audience. I was trying to not alienate anyone. I was trying to not be contentious. I was trying to find common ground between the three of us, and so I was softer with my language than I would be now. (J, one of my protector alters, was not softer, but you will see that at the end of the email exchange.) I did not delve into everything that Daniel was/is doing, because that would be an even longer email than I already had written! But I wrote about the most incriminating things I thought would get their attention, and things I knew for certain were being done (not intuition or feeling or things I could not prove with my personal witness). I was also going off of what Preston Bailey had told me concerning the “Manifest Sons of God” doctrine, and how he felt about that. He clearly expressed to me a warning to stay away from that, and that it was “cult” in nature.

Unfortunately, Rob Ruckert and Preston Bailey ignored my subsequent message, and did not appear to give any serious concern to what I expressed to them. Instead, they defended what they thought to be Daniel's character, and I was reprimanded for not taking this matter to them AND Daniel at the same time.

I have more to say in defense of THAT, but it will wait for another time, if I decide to address it at all. For now, here is the email I sent to Dr. Rob Ruckert and Dr. Preston Bailey, in an attempt to blow the whistle, once again, on the Luciferian doctrine that had infiltrated Daniel Duval's ministry. I am sharing the entire email conversation (it is long), including the very end where one of my protective alters, J, switched in. She is not nice, she does not speak kindly, and she freely uses “bad” words unapologetically; however, it is part of the emails, and I have no shame in anything that was written by myself or by my alter.

Names of other survivors are “X'ed” out, because this is not about shaming victims. This is about naming the perpetrators. Also, for the sake of sensitive constitutions, I have used asterisks in place of J's “naughty words.”


The E-Mails


Subject: Concerns I am Sharing with the Two of You
From: Loren Grace
To: Rob Ruckert, Dr. Bailey
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016


Hello,

I am emailing both of you because there are some things that have reallyconcerned me about Daniel Duval and the Bride Ministry counseling. Red flags, if you will. And I will say right off the bat that I could be 100% wrong about my conclusions, but I could also be correct. If I am correct, I can't in good conscience wash my hands of the entire affair and say nothing. I'm not stirring up or trying to create problems. If I were, I would have used a more public forum to publicly expose what I believe to be the false doctrines DD is privately entertaining. I am merely concerned that it is wrong and ungodly, and I am privately telling you what is going on because I feel you have a right to know, if you don't already, and then I am going to walk away from it. I don't want to be involved with or associated with DD and Bride Ministries any more than I have already.

Quick background: I come from having been born into religious cults that were infiltrated by satanists and luciferians. I would even go so far as to say they were founded by satanists and luciferians, and looking back now, I have reason to suspect the particular churches I was raised in (not the entire denomination, necessarily) were a haven for certain families within the Illuminati who had hidden bloodlines. Some (like myself) more hidden than others. So, unfortunately, I am intimately familiar with the look and feel of religious cults and the spiritual havoc they wreak, although sometimes it takes me a little while to recognize it when I'm stuck in the middle of it. I realized this week that I had forgotten a lot of the doctrine I was taught and immersed in. I don't know if it could be classified as "dissociation," but I certainly "suppressed" a lot of those memories because it represents a very difficult time in my life. But I've remembered some things this week and made a connection with DD and a particular doctrine he has expressed as truth and a secret end-time revelation from God.

I didn't realize until this week that I knew about this doctrine floating about called “manifest sons of God.” I knew the concept but I did not know it by that name. And because of my background and first-hand experience with religious cults, I certainly knew of all the surrounding beliefs that are connected with this “manifest sons of God” doctrine. Such as “sharing the anointing of these few special selected/elected mighty men and women of God.” This more commonly lends itself to handkerchiefs, for example, that Brother So-and-So used to wipe off his sweat, and so it's now “endowed with his anointing,” and it's like a prized item up for grabs. Everyone wants to touch the sweaty handkerchief or get a whiff of the spirit-wind created by it being fanned about, and they'll get healing or money or deliverance, or whatever; and as a sign of this special “anointing,” they'll fall to the ground and flail about, babbling in tongues, shaking, laughing hysterically, and sometimes making animal sounds. And perhaps less commonly known, sometimes it manifests in people literally draping themselves over the graves of these “mighty men and women of God,” and being endowed with the “spirit” or “anointing” of the dead person. Catch-phrases like “the spirit of Elijah” and “transferring the mantle of anointing” are used. Of course, Scripture is always twisted and presented in an attempt to give credence to practices that normal people see as whacko and demonic.

Even though DD is not using the phrase “manifest sons of God,” it is exactly what he has been talking about with his clients the past several months. He is using the Illuminati phrase “shining ones,” and he is beginning to base his entire mission around it, becoming an significant part of his counseling relationship with his clients. At least, many of them. I don't know for sure if he talks with all of his clients about this doctrine, but I know that he believes nearly all of his clients, including myself – although I'm not his client any longer – and at least some of the coaches, including himself, are shining ones.

Basically, DD expressed to me on a number of occasions during our last months together, that he believes before Jesus Christ returns, he, along with the other special “shining ones” – 99,999 in total, is the number he gave to me – will have their spirit manifest in this physical realm and overtake the physical body. He told me he believes he is not going to die, but from the point that his spirit becomes physically manifest, he – and the other shining ones – will be invincible. He told me that the shining ones are God's special, secret, end-time weapons to fight against and destroy the Illuminati and the NWO, and he uses passages of Scripture to try to prove that point. Although, it is a stretch to find Scripture and be absolutely certain of any esoteric meaning, even for DD, and he admitted as much to me, which is one reason he stated why he was not yet ready to publicly come out with his “exciting end-time revelation.”

DD believes about the shining ones because he confided to me that several different people at different times have told him about the shining ones, and he views this – along with a few esoteric interpretations of Scripture – as part of the confirmation, validating that doctrine. He also believes the fact that our spirits shine brightly like a light to be confirmation. And yes, my spirit does shine brightly at times, but I don't believe (any longer) that is because I am a “shining one.” I believe it has something to do with the manifestation of the glory she/I has been or will be given, but I am not sure, and I honestly don't care any more. It is what it is, and I'm not going to continue chasing after answers to questions that don't really matter one way or the other.

DD told me that the Illuminati have known about the shining ones since 1723 A.D., and they are keeping tabs on us. He also told me some of his clients who came out of the Illuminati were the ones who told him about the shining ones, but it's possible there may be more than just his clients who have “confirmed” this to him.

He also has expressed to me that he believes his spirit will write a book in the very near future. Not sure what to think of that one, but since he believes his spirit is this “shining one” that is going to manifest and overtake his physical body and he'll be imperishable, I doubt his spirit is going to be writing a book any time soon. Just my opinion, although I could be wrong. However, I don't see Biblical precedence where the spirit of a person wrote a book. From what I know of the authors of the books of the Bible, they penned the words themselves, not their spirits. The Spirit of God was speaking through them, but twisting that to say their spirit wrote the book is going too far, in my opinion. But maybe I misunderstood what DD was talking about, and maybe itis possible.

DD told me he has frequent conversations with God and with his own spirit about this shining one doctrine, and that is when God – and DD's spirit man – reveals to him certain things about the shining ones and what DD is specifically called to do as a shining one, which is where writing the book came from.

He also expressed to me that he is going to go public with this knowledge he is acquiring about shining ones and their role in the end-time battle against the anti-christ and the NWO. He may have gone public with it already, I don't know. Or, he may change his mind and decide to not go public with it. But I think it's only fair for you to be given a heads-up on what's going on.

Now, I'm usually a logical person. I do get emotional, of course, sometimes overly so, especially if I'm triggered. And even though I am logical, I am also a passionate person. (That's a nice way to say I have a short fuse sometimes... lol) But even through my emotional displays, I am still very logical in my thinking process. It's difficult for me to express that logic with the spoken word, which is frustrating, and I'm better at expressing with the written word. But in spite of logic, like many people, I am not immune to being fooled or deceived. I'm not immune to having my ego stroked, either. So for a while, I believed this “shining one” doctrine for myself. Fortunately, I prefer the harsh naked truth over the prettily painted lie, and while having my ego stroked feels nice, I can't survive off of hot air. I need the well-balanced nutrition of the whole truth.

One thing I have always done in my life is ask questions. And I analyze things. I think about things a lot. Sometimes I analyze the hell of things when I ought to not and I have the tendency sometimes to overthink. However, that's just how I am. I've been that way for as long as I can remember, because there've been a lot of things in my life that puzzled me. They didn't add up, and I was trying to figure out my life! Now that I mostly have the bigger picture of the TRUTH of my life, I realize the life I had was basically a cover-story. It was a lie! And all that overthinking and over-analyzing was me trying to figure out what the TRUTH is. The truth is very important to me. I hate lies. I hate deception. I lived with it my entire life. The first 40 years of my life were built on a tangled web of lies, and I don't want the next 40 to be built on lies, either!! So I analyze things to find out what the truth is.

So, after thinking this thing through – this deal with the shining ones, the whole deal with DD and how things ended the way they did between the two of us, and the whole counseling thing and his whole ministry – things just aren't adding up.

First, around the time DD took his trip to AU last year, I noticed things started changing, and it wasn't for the better. I'm sure he would disagree – did, in fact, disagree with me – but that was my perspective based on what I was seeing and experiencing for myself, and I maintain that perspective to this day. Some of the issues were due to me. My programming was quickly unraveling, and a lot of memories were surfacing all at once. It was incredibly overwhelming and I had no support system to help deal with the fallout of that. But the problems I started having with DD made dealing with the issues I was having over the programming even more difficult. It started off more subtle, but as time progressed, it got worse. Looking back, I'd say they weresigns and symptoms of the greater problem, and the greater problem was that DD was beginning to be deceived by false doctrine.

One of the really big changes was when he started talking about these “shining ones.” That came to a head because of the questions I asked concerning XXXX and his claim that his “true nature” was angelic. So then, after having multiple conversations (no pun intended...ha!), DD had meconvinced I was a shining one as well. And boy oh boy, didn't that just stroke the old ego! Who wouldn't want to be part of some “special army of God” that is meant to destroy the NWO? Pretty exciting stuff, huh! Especially to a group of people (like myself) who have been kicked around our whole lives: beaten, raped, ignored, disdained, told we were no good, and made to feel like a piece of shit. So yeah, it feels nice to imagine being “special.” And it certainly gives a deeper meaning to all the suffering we've been through, which makes it all the more pleasant to believe.

Second, some of DD's clients are former (possibly some current, I don't know) Luciferians, satanists, and the like. As I'm sure you are aware, many have come from Illuminati families and backgrounds, with varying degrees of involvement and awareness. And to me, it seems logical to ask the question, “Why is DD basing a supposedly Biblical doctrine off of what former illuminists/satanists are telling him that the Illuminati believe to be true? Or on what they are saying is the truth?” In my mind, that does not make sense, regardless of how many people have “confirmed” this doctrine! Satan is capable of pulling off a mass deception. That's kinda what he does, you know? He does it all the time, every day, especially in churches and with Christians!

I understand that as counselors, it's likely a fine-line you all walk between youbelieving what we are saying is true, and believing that we believe what we are saying is true. Does that make sense? It's a fine distinction there. I have no doubt those clients who told DD all those things about “shining ones” really do believe it to be true. It's also just as likely that it is not true, but a deception straight from hell as a way for satan to infiltrate even the most sincere, God-seeking individuals. It's a way for demons to enter in, under the guise of “angels” or “angelic spirit beings” or even masquerading as the spirit of the person themselves, causing chaos, confusion, and just a huge ungodly, unbiblical mess.

Third, if the Illuminati supposedly know about the shining ones and are keeping tabs on them; and if the shining ones are such a threat to the Illuminati and their NWO plans; then why not just kill the shining ones and be done with it? It doesn't seem logical to me that the Illuminati would allow a supposed threat to them and their plans to go unchecked.

As a further example of the things DD is getting involved in and how it's affecting his counseling ministry and his clientele: did you hear about the angel that “emailed” DD recently? One of his clients, XXXX, supposedly had one of her angels email DD, which was enough to convince him to travel to XX with her to pray over that area. Now, I'm not saying the trip to XX was not of God. I am saying the way it came about doesn't sit right with me. I'm not sure how the mechanics of that email took place, if the angel manifested in the physical and sat at the computer and typed out an email, or if the angel “took over” (basically, possessed) her body and XXXX's body sat down andher fingers were used to type out the email. And I could be wrong, but that doesn't sit right, however it came about. Where is Biblical precedence for that? I'm well aware that the Bible doesn't really speak about Gmail or AOL, but if we want to think about courier pigeons, or something of the like: is it ever recorded in the Bible where God's angels sent a message via courier pigeon? Or a telegraph? Or anything like that? From what I read, God's angels send messages IN PERSON. Often in dreams, but sometimes by appearing in the physical realms, or by the person themselves being taken to a heavenly realm. I've heard of a donkey talking, but from my understanding when I read that account in the Bible, the angel wasn't telling the donkey to give Balaam a message for him. The angel gave the message to Balaam himself. I've heard of birds giving food to Elijah or Elisha – whichever one it was – but I don't recall them giving him a parchment of paper whereupon an angelic message was inscribed. Angels have even given messages to people who are then commanded to pass those messages on to others as “Thus sayeth the Lord” types of things. But this is the first time I've ever heard of an angel of God using email to get a message to someone. But, I don't know. Maybe his wings had been clipped and he was having a hard time flying about. Maybe he had a headache and wasn't feeling up to flying around that day. Maybe email is more convenient nowadays, and they prefer to now bypass battling demons and all that jazz, and take advantage of our “superior human technology,” and shoot off a quick email. I'm wondering if they know about Facebook yet.... That might be extra-convenient to quickly mass-distribute those heavenly missives. Although, on second thought, instead of battling demons, they'd be battling the spying US government and obnoxious trolls. So maybe they don't want to deal with Facebook hassles. I don't blame them, really. ;) lol

All joking aside, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time! Maybe there areexamples in the Bible of God's angels bringing messages to people via a letter or the like. If so, I'd appreciate you or someone else pointing out clear examples to me (not twisting obscure passages and putting your own spin on them, but true, clear examples). In my opinion, this whole affair stinks really really badly, and this “emailing angel” is just another example of DD believing things from his clients that have no Biblical basis, and then acting on them. It could be that my “smeller” is off, but it could just as easily be that something is rotten and putrid and needs to be addressed.

So here's my conclusion:

After God forced me out of that counseling relationship (and I believe now, as painful as that separation was, it truly was God using those circumstances to force me out of associating myself with DD and his ministry, because not only am I an over-thinker, I'm also hard-headed as hell, and I didn't want to leave on my own), I'm starting to see the truth: DD has fallen victim to a satanic deception. He's been tricked and deceived, is starting to believe in demonic doctrines, and teaching them to his clients. Yes, there is the usual “bringing Jesus into the conversation” for validation and confirmation. However, it is just as easy for a fake Jesus to appear, either born from one's imagination in an attempt to have a feel-good conversation with God that makes us feel special, or a programmed version of Jesus, or a demonic entity that enters in disguised as Jesus. At this point, I do not know how to tell the difference, and unfortunately, it appears, in my opinion, that DD has gotten to the point where he can't tell the difference, either.

As I'm sure you can imagine, the harm of being deluded and tricked by a false Jesus is incredibly painful to work through. It's not something that is easy to face, and because it's so painful, most people never face it and continue to live in delusion. And because, in hind-sight, at least some of those tricks and false Jesus's were sneaking into my counseling sessions, this has added yet another layer of confusion and fear: if even someone as relatively “normal” and godly as DD can be tricked and deceived into thinking an entity is Jesus when it is not, or deceived into thinking a doctrine is Biblically sound and of God when it is not, then what does that say about me? Who can I trust? And this isn't simply a minor disagreement over interpretation of Scripture or Godly doctrine. It is flat out doctrine of demons that is straight from hell! If I can't trust my own counselor to help guide me into being set free from demonic attachments but is instead inadvertently welcoming them in, then who can I trust? It has lent itself to me questioning every single conversation I have ever had with “Jesus,” either in a counseling session or on my own time, and wondering if it was true and real or not? It's flipped me upside down and devastated me. It has also caused me to become very cautious, to the point now where I have flat-out told God that if He wants to find me, He knows where I'm at, because I'm done trying to follow after Him. I am notdone with God, but I am done chasing after God, because I'm not sure if who I'm following is the REAL Jesus or a demonic fake Jesus. Or a Jesus born from my imagination. Going through constant breakdowns just to get an occasional breakthrough has been exhausting, and now I'm left wondering that maybe my “breakthroughs” weren't exactly breakthroughs, but a false sense of peace that came about from a deluded mind trying to heal itself and find a stable place again. Because there has been no good, lasting fruit from those last several months of counseling and the "shining ones" doctrine. Aside from those occasional “breakthroughs” that I'm now questioning the validity of, overall I've been worse. I feel farther apart from God and more confused, even more than I did two years ago before I started counseling, and that makes me feel incredibly sad.

Furthermore, because DD believes I am a “shining one,” he expressed that my spirit is now strong and his responsibility to counsel me through this process of healing and deprogramming had ended. And it certainly did end, because I could not handle the stress and confusion any longer. He had begun to ignore me and then started unexpectedly casting aside our counseling sessions (one in particular was canceled when DD took that trip to XX after XXXX's “angel” emailed him, and that was one of the last straws for me). What made it worse is that since he considered me and himself to be a “shining one,” he was justifying his behavior, going so far as to tell us that he had sat down with his calendar and God Himself had told him to cancel our sessions (along with others – we weren't the only ones), so that he could take care of other “assignments” that God was giving to him, in particular the assignment to start the internet church and the XX assignment the angel emailed him about.

Now, I understand things come up. I really do. But the way he went about it was wrong. I was told that I was not allowed to have any expectations concerning the schedule for my sessions, and that was wrong. Not being able to depend on DD to hold to his word but to possibly cancel our session any given week for any given reason was not reasonable, and it caused a lot of anxiety for me that was ignored and not addressed. And that was wrong. Using God as an excuse to cancel my sessions and ignore me was wrong. And certainly, my session being canceled because an “angel” emailed him...? That did NOT sit right with me at all. That was wrong. And to top it off, all this was happening while I was right in the middle of unearthing a ton of memories about my 13th year ritual, which was already driving me batty. I was already beginning to have a breakdown, and being cast aside for bigger and better assignments – and being told that God was the one responsible for it – made it worse.

It got to the point where I was questioning, “Why does God have to kick measide in the ditch so He can pull someone else out? Is this what God does? Why does God throw me to the ground to be used as a stepping-stool forothers so they can reach a higher level? Why am I being passed over so someone else can have their turn? Why does it have to be one or the other, but it can't be both and all?” It just didn't – and doesn't – seem right to me, but no amount of protesting made a difference. Many of our last conversations were he and I going back and forth, me telling him how his actions were hurting me, and him explaining to me – and to my husband – why I had no right to be hurt and why his assignments were so important, and I got so tired of hearing him justify his actions by telling me those things were coming from God. Quite honestly, counseling became a huge waste of my time and money, and with all the added stress of recovering extremely painful memories, and without dependable support or help working throughthose memories, it was stressing me out to the point where I was having a nervous breakdown. So I ended our counseling, and that is when DD informed me it was okay because my “shining spirit” was strong, and his responsibility towards me to help me through my healing path had ended. It was devastating. And I told him as much. And got ignored.

So.... whining about myself aside, I am just letting you know how it feels to go through this spiritual manipulation and deception, because I don't want any of the others in that group to go through what I have gone through. This manipulation and deception with the “shining ones” doctrine is bearing bad fruit, resulting in clients being cast aside and ignored. I can't speak for anyone else, but that was my experience. Being ignored and my sessions screwed around with was simply a symptom of the larger problem. The “shining ones” doctrine was the root cause. At least, ONE of the major root causes. And if DD keeps this up, others will be hurt, if they haven't begun to be hurt already, and led down a path of destruction, and that hurts me forthem. From my perspective based on the last several interactions we and my husband had with DD, he has started using “god” as an excuse to do and say whatever he wants, partly because of an over-inflated sense of self that has come about through this “shining ones” doctrine. And the burdens placed on us to be okay with whatever he – or God – dished out because our spirit was a "shining one" was too heavy to bear. I felt this way then, and I continue to feel this way now, even after a few months of distancing myself from the situation, so this is not an emotional, knee-jerk reaction. And from what I understand, this not only caused chaos between DD and I, but between him and his other clients, as well, particularly these past several months. DD described this chaos to me as “an attack from the enemy,” and he is correct. But it's because he has opened that door for the enemy to come in, and he has left it wide open!

And I have the sinking feeling based on the last several months of interaction with DD, that I just bore witness to the birth of a charismatic cult leader and the emergence of a cult that has former (or current) Illuminati members manipulating things behind the scenes. I know that is a very harsh, serious accusation to make, but I don't make it lightly. It grieves me to have to say it. I am not accusing anyone ofpurposefully and consciously manipulating and lying. I understand how things work with alters, especially deeper cult-loyal alters, or hidden programmed alters. Or even with clients who are desperate for extra, undivided attention from their counselor, even to the exclusion and expulsion of his other clients. And sometimes we can be sincere and believe what is happening to us is from God, but it's a lie and deception from satan and isn't the truth at all! I know this first-hand! But it's clear to me that lying and manipulation is going on, and the “emailing angel” is one extreme example that easily proves my conclusion.

Furthermore, from my perspective, DD has surrounded himself with a fan base that strokes his ego at every turn. They make him feel good, and while feeling good is fine, it's also important to be open to correction when we go astray. DD, in my opinion based on my experiences with him, has shown himself to not be one who is open to correction. At least, not so far, but maybe that can be changed before it goes much farther. And because this deception of the shining ones runs so deep, and because it appears to me that he is beginning to base his entire life's mission around it, and because what I believe and have experienced are false Jesus's popping up and giving “confirmation” on this ungodly doctrine and other experiences that are outside of sound Biblical teaching, and because his ego is being stroked, DD is absolutely convinced that he is right, and anyone who disagrees with him are wrong.

And like I said, I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. I've been involved with cults my entire life, and I feel that while DD started off with good intentions and a good heart (they usually all do, I dare say), it has gone south. He is beginning to open himself up to delusions and ungodly doctrines, and because of his ego, and because of the very nature of the “shining ones” doctrine that is feeding that ego, he is unable to see it. I do not think that DD has done this intentionally or with malice. I believe he has a good heart and that he is very sincere. I believe he loves God with all his heart and he wants to do what is right. But I also believe his heart has been led astray, in part by his fan base, in part by his deceived clientele (of which I realize I was a part of, embarrassingly so), and in part by demons who have attached themselves and created an atmosphere of delusion. DD may be sincere, but I believe he is sincerely wrong.

Now that I have perspective and I see the truth, I'm done being angry and bitter towards him, and I am now praying that God will open his eyes and show him the truth before anyone else is led astray and gets hurt. And before DD himself burns out and gets hurt, and before his ministry – along with those who associate themselves with his ministry – is tarnished. It's not too late for things to be turned around for DD and Bride Ministries, so hopefully – prayerfully – DD will be able to do just that.

If I am wrong about my conclusions, God will deal with me, and I accept that. Furthermore, I guess with the whole “shining ones” thing, time will tell if I am right or if DD and his like-minded clients are right. I am not going to worry about it any longer. Time will tell, as with all things.

I am not trying to hurt anyone or create confusion, but I do stand by every word I have written in this letter, and it's been sent with the agreement of and blessing of my husband.

Apologies for the length of this letter, but I pray it has been received in the spirit of love and concern that it was sent. Thanks for reading, and I wish you both peace in your lives.

Loren

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From: ruckert 
To: Loren Grace
Cc: Bailey 
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016

Hi Loren,

I appreciate your courage in sharing what you are sensing concerning Daniel and Bride Ministries. Please know that I am taking what you are sharing seriously and I am bringing it to the Lord for some serious prayer. I cannot justify or not justify the "shining ones" belief system based on the what I know of the Bible and so I really need to go to the Lord on this.

God bless you,
Rob

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From: Loren Grace 
To: ruckert
Cc: Ruckert
Date: Monday, July 4th, 2016


Thanks for taking the time to read and respond, Dr. Rob. I "hear" my mother in my head (not literally... lol.... but it certainly is ingrained in me....) saying, "Oh, stop feeling sorry for yourself!" Which always meant, "Don't acknowledge or speak the truth, and never admit that you are in pain." So, it's hard for me to share honestly with others without feeling as if I may be coming across as a whiny baby. So with consideration to those "voices in my head" hollering at me, I feel compelled to explain what I am trying to accomplish through me sharing with you and Dr. B.

I am trying to:

1. share very briefly my involvement with religious cults, so that you know I have a certain level of personal understanding.

2. share what DD shared with me concerning his cult beliefs.

3. share how those cult beliefs have hurt me: spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and in my counseling relationship with DD. Because if they are hurting me in that way, it stands to reason, they will eventually hurt others. Maybe not in the same way, because, first of all, I'm not someone who is being used by the Illuminati to infiltrate and cause dissension, chaos, and spread false doctrine; however, even if there are those who are being used to do that, eventually they will be hurt as well. In fact, it's almost certain they already are hurting. And they need to be stopped from spreading confusion and lies, and find true healing.

4. in like fashion, hopefully, by exposing this wrong, it will help to stop this spiritual abuse and manipulation from going any further and hurting ALL involved -- counselors, clients, and supporters, DD included.

So, I'm not trying to whine or cry about anything or garner anyone's sympathy. I don't give a rat's patootie about people feeling sorry for me. I don't WANT anyone to "feel sorry" for me. I just want to share the truth so that the pain and deception can stop.

As far as understanding Scripture to proof or disprove this "shining ones" doctrine:

I think there are two important questions to ask ourselves anytime we are confronted with a situation that we don't know the Biblical solution to: what does the root look like, and what does the fruit look like? In other words, where did this come from and what is the result of it?

In this case it's obvious, I believe, through historic evidence, that the ROOT is bad. Furthermore, through historic evidence, it's obvious the FRUIT is bad as well. Furthermore, I have given you personal witness as to how the fruit of this doctrine CONTINUES to be bad.

However, that's just my thoughts and opinion. I'm not a theologian. Just some thoughts to consider. :)

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From: ruckert
To: Loren Grace
Cc: Bailey
Date: Tuesday, July 5th, 2016


Hi Loren Grace,

I want to respond to your e-mail as I have prayed:

1. In the Bible when you have an issue(s)or conflict with some someone and it not able to be resolved between the both of you, then it says you should get a couple of trusted people (like you did) and bring it directly to the person you have an issue with. You did not do this with Daniel. He should have been copied in your e-mail.

2. I have had a honest discussion with Daniel about these matters and I do not believe or am I concerned with Bride Ministries becoming a cult.

I did not share your new e-mail or phone number with Daniel as you requested but if you want me to be part of working out your concerns about Bride Ministries, then Daniel will have to be a part of those discussions.

Please know what I care about you and I am praying for you.

God bless,
Rob

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From: Bailey
To: Loren
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016


Loren:

I have not heard Daniel Duvall say anything about the "shining ones" so I don't know where he got the phrase or what it means to him.

Daniel Duvall has a big heart and wants to help people with DID and not harm them in any way. So I will discuss this with him. But Daniel would never force anyone to do something against their conscious or beliefs. I have always found him to be kind and sensitive even though we have not always agreed on something.

People disagree over doctrine which is why there are so many Christian denominations.

I counsel people a lot but there are times I have to counsel a session because of an emergency, I have to speak some where at the last minute, or I was confused about the specific time or the client was confused. This happened yesterday. Two weeks ago I counseled a woman and I said I could counsel her in two weeks. She chose July 4th. She was from another country so I said, "That is the Fourth of July here in the U.S. when we celebrate our independence but I will meet you then.) I wrote the exact date and time and emailed her within the hour. On July Fourth I adjusted my schedule just for her at 1:30pm and even came back early for a luncheon meeting so I would not miss her call. I called her and she said she got confused so we made it the next day. I made a big sacrifice for me and my family to counsel her on July 4th and she forgot our conversation and even when I wrote her the date and time.

So appointments are canceled for both the counselor and counselee.

I am sorry that you had such a bad experience with Bride Ministries for whatever the reason. I hope and pray that you will find a ministry to minister to your needs since there are so few that minister to people with DID.

Dr. Preston Bailey

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From: Loren Grace
To: ruckert
Cc: Bailey
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016


Thanks Dr. B for your words. Of course you haven't heard DD talk about the shining ones. That's why I am telling you. So you know. I understand issues over doctrine. This is not the point. I'm not talking about concerns over biblical doctrine. I'm talking about luciferian doctrine being touted about, privately: I am telling you what DD has shared with me about the shining ones. Believe it or not, that is not my problem any longer. I am simply sharing so everyone is on the same page because I believe you have a right to know if someone you are professionally associated with is spreading false doctrine that is bringing harm to other people. I already stated in my email that I believe DD has a good heart and wants to do the right thing. That has never been my problem. His intention is not suspect, in my book. Furthermore, if you think my email to you is complaining about a missed appointment or two or five or nine, apparently I have miscommunicated. Moving on....

Thanks, Dr. Rob for your thoughts. I have brought my concerns to DD, and he has confused us even more. I am not having another conversation with him about false doctrine that he is pushing on people. The both of you -- Dr. Rob and Dr. B -- are assuming things you have no idea about. I came to the two of you with a legitimate concern, and you have chosen to ignore it or dismiss it. That is on you. No problem for ME, because I have no dog in the fight any longer, so to speak. We shared out of concern. What you do with what we have shared, I do not care any longer. Our responsibility has ended.


Rob -- it's not US trying to come to you to help us "WORK OUT AN ISSUE" we have with DD and BM.... Are you **** serious?! LOREN CAME TO YOU TO TELL YOU ABOUT AN ISSUE SO OTHER PEOPLE WON'T BE HURT!!!!! OMG!!!! I understand you feel we should now biblically be "required" to bring our concerns to both you AND him, but you are wrong and you can **** on your verses that tell you that you are correct. That is not going to happen, hon. So sue me. WE aren't trying to "work" anything out. That time is passed. We are telling YOU what is going on so you know. Loren feels it's only fair to you. If you don't give a **** then fine.... don't give a ****. Get on with your life and we will get on with ours.

Let me tell you, tho, I don't do things like you think I ought to according to your Bible?! HAHAHA!!! That is so **** laughable.... He's caused all of us a lot of pain with his bs doctrine, and we aren't getting involved in his **** any more. If you don't like that, I don't care. Get over it. I'm not giving DD our contact info. We ARE doing the proper thing by bringing our concerns to the two people that may be able to help the most, and if you are unwilling or unable to help, that is between you and God. Not our concern any longer. I WILL NOT ALLOW LOREN to go to DD any longer, because it has not worked. She went to him with her husband, and it did not work. He twists things around for her and **** her up royally and WE WILL HAVE NO FURTHER CONTACT WITH HIM AT ALL. I don't expect you to understand. Of course you can't understand.

I have nothing further to say to either of you. WE have nothing further to say. We did what we had to do, and you will do what you have to do. So leave us alone and we will leave YOU alone. Forget our email. Go back to kissing one another's ****. Have fun. Loren did what she thought was right, but once again, she was wrong.

Don't contact us again. We will not contact you again.

Thanks. Bye.
J
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(end of emails)


Note

I am fully aware that many in churchianity will love to zone in on J's response and bring out their accusations. People like you, oh churchianity, just love to point to any type of emotional humanity that comes in and use it as an excuse to not listen or hear the message that is being brought forth, especially if there are the ever-offensive “bad words” inserted into said emotional humanity. (Personally, I find the fact that children are being beaten and raped and otherwise abused to be more offensive than someone saying the “s” word or the “f” word, but that’s just me.) However... I think it's important to bring out J's message. It is part of me. It was part of the conversation. As embarrassed as I am sometime at how J communicates, it is STILL part of me. And if I am being honest about this entire conversation, I am going to be VERY honest about every part of me and the part I and all of me played in this. I am not hiding anything, not even an alter that switches in and reams someone out that she is angry at – that I am angry at, but am unable to accurately express!

So I make no apologies for J, because this is how feel! She just had the chutzpah to express it, when I did not. I was going to leave it at my last sentence in addressing Rob Ruckert, but J switched in, and there you see it....


Conclusion

As is clearly documented, Daniel had been confronted on multiple occasions by myself and my husband concerning his treatment of me as his client (and concerning the “angel” issue that led into the Luciferian “Shining Ones” doctrine, which only brought further confusion and led me into deception). Furthermore, Rob Ruckert and Preston Bailey had been warned back in July 2016 that ungodly things were going on (had, in fact, been warned prior in February 2016 when I first brought the angel issue to the table), and Luciferian doctrine was being taught, and yet they did nothing, aside from defending Dan’s character and reprimanding me for not allowing Ruckert to mediate between Daniel and myself. As if there should be any common ground to be found between Christianity and Luciferian doctrine! 

And this was just what I warned them about, and it was just the tip of the iceberg! It’s possible that others had previously gone to them or the other leadership in BRIDE ministries to sound the alarm, but I do not know. All I know is that I did what I had to do in February and July of 2016, to warn the two people – specifically Preston Bailey, as Daniel’s mentor – that would, in my mind, likely have the most sway with Daniel and likely be the ones to do something about effecting a change in what was going on with Daniel’s “ministry” to trauma survivors.

Carolyn has her own perspective to add, but to me, the entire affair with Duval boils down to this: the public “spirit man” teaching combined with the ungodly belief that it is “okay with God” if people are half-human and half-angel (Biblically, this human/angel hybrid came about because offallen angels, and not something God was or is okay with…), led to the private “Shining Ones” theology, which has led to all other sorts of occult doctrines, including astral travel (in the guise of “spirit travel”),remote viewing (under the name, “seeing in the spirit”), casting spells and throwing around curses (in the name of “spiritual warfare” and “prayer”), sending forth demons to attack people (the demons are disguised as angels, and they are doing this, again, in the name of “spiritual warfare” and “prayer”), necromancy (this is something I will have to discuss another time, because there WAS necromancy going on in counseling, regardless of what Duval publicly says!), and all sorts of disgusting satanic practices that Christians should have nothing to do with. These are some of the things I was trained to do through programming and trauma, and it just blows my mind how Christians would desire these occult abilities! Why would Christians desire to split their own soul and spirit in order to gain these occult abilities?! Why do Christians think it’s okay to cling to a form of “Jesus,” yet hold tightly to and defend their occult doctrines and practices? 

Furthermore, I went to Daniel Duval to get help in overcoming the enemy and heal from the chaos and havoc the enemy had wreaked in my life, but based on my experiences with him as my “counselor,” these occult abilities fascinated Daniel and were encouraged by him, and I realize now that he is using his wounded, desperate clients to help him build his own career!! He has and is exploiting us, and the people who surround him are enabling this, ignoring the cries for help from his clients, and doing nothing to stop it!

More on that later, if God allows, but like I shared with Ruckert and Bailey, here are the two things you need to look at if you do not know how to properly ascertain if something is of God or not, especially if you do not know where to look in Scripture, or even if you are looking at Scripture: look at the root, and look at the fruit. In other words, where did it come from and what is the result? If it comes from Lucifer, it doesn’t matter how many scriptures you twist to try to make it Godly, it will never be of God. If the fruit is pride, strife, confusion, fear, suffering, gossiping, lying, etc… then you can be assured that something is wrong with the root. A healthy, good plant does not bear rotten, diseased fruit. 

And most importantly, don't follow after people or movements. Don't look to me, don't look to Carolyn Hamlett, don't look to Daniel Duval, don't look towards anyone!! Look to Jesus Christ. HE is our leader, not anyone else. 



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End of Loren Grace's commentary 
Carolyn Hamlett's closing comments


I was flabbergasted when I read Rob Ruckert’s and Dr. Bailey’s responses to Loren Grace’s very clear and descriptive emails she sent them in her concern over the Luciferian teachings and practices that DD was not only teaching, but using in counseling sessions! 

And…then, months later, when I contacted Rob Ruckert and Dr. Bailey to tell them of my own concerns that Daniel Duval is teaching and promoting Luciferian doctrines…both Rob Ruckert and Dr. Bailey sounded as though they had never heard any such thing before! I even mentioned to them that BRIDE Ministries is now a cult and teaching the occult. Loren Grace warned both Rob Ruckert and Dr. Bailey months ago that this situation with Daniel Duval and BRIDE Ministries was very serious and if not corrected, BRIDE Ministries was on it’s way to being a cult. 

Because of our unique backgrounds, Loren Grace and I (especially Loren Grace) have the qualifications of knowing what a cult looks like, sounds like smells like, tastes like etc. It is just a fact. Yet… Loren Grace’s words fell on deaf ears because everyone I know of associated with BRIDE Ministries (including myself !!!) listened to Daniel Duval and believed him when he told us what he wanted us to believe about Loren Grace and why she left BRIDE Ministries many months ago…and we all flat out without question, blindly believed every word Daniel Duval said!

Sadly, I believed DD’s lies about other people too.

As it turns out, Loren Grace is not the first person who saw that Daniel Duval was teaching Luciferian doctrines and tried to reach Daniel Duval as the Bible instructs one to approach a brother in error. I had two other friends who also spoke with Daniel Duval about his Luciferian occult teachings… long before Loren Grace and her husband went to Daniel with their own concerns. And…I believed all the lies Daniel Duval told me about my two friends which kept me from contacting either of them. It turns out that Daniel Duval lied to them about me too, so they wouldn’t contact me. That is how a CULT works. If you doubt me, go look up for yourself about cults. 

Now, I would like to share with you my own experiences of emails and exchanges with Dr. Preston Bailey and Dr. Rob Ruckert which further validates the experiences of Loren Grace and her email exchanges with the two of them. 

After nearly a week of 12 hour days of research, and having already had a lengthy phone conversation with Daniel Duval over my concerns, I posted this notice before I left the BRIDE Ministry Facebook support group led by Darla Carver Guerra and Karolyn Otlewski. This was posted on October 31st. Notice I said “I may need to leave BRIDE Ministries,” not that I had left.

“I am leaving this group and may need to leave BRIDE Ministries. I do not support the teachings that some of you are getting from your groups leaders. For anyone who would like to know my reasons, you are welcome to message me. 
 I love you all and will be keeping you in my prayers. God Bless!

Carolyn” 

Rob Ruckert was the only one who contacted me after I posted the message and left. He expressed his concern and wanted to hear what I had to say. As I have stated earlier in this article, I had a lengthy phone conversation with Rob and I thought he understood what all of my concerns were about Daniel Duval and what Daniel Duval is supporting and teaching and practicing. At Rob’s request, I even sent Rob some emails with screenshots, names and and links so he could easily do the research and see for himself. 

Rob Ruckert emailed Daniel Duval over his concern saying “my [Rob’s] discernment says something is really wrong with Darla and that you need to get on this right away.  I know you are going on another trip and that you are really busy now but there is nothing more important than dealing with this.  My spirit is on red alert.
God bless,
Rob”


On November 4th at (11:33 AM), Rob Ruckert emailed me say he hadn’t looked at the links I had sent him, but that he “gets it,” but what he says he “gets” about why I was leaving BRIDE Ministries was just a part of my concern. He “got” the part that Darla Carver Guerra is deceptive and a habitual liar. Strangely, what Rob Ruckert didn’t “get” even after I accented it over and over…is just how serious it is that Daniel Duval is either purposely covering for Darla Carver Guerra’s lies or his (Daniel Duval’s) discernment is so far off that he can’t tell a lie from the truth and a liar from the person telling the truth. Either way you look at it, that is VERY serious when Daniel Duval who runs BRIDE Ministries and who specializes in counseling people with DID of whom so many trusting people have put themselves under his “care” is not a person that can be trusted because he (Daniel Duval) is either practicing deceit himself…or is severely lacking the ability to discern what is of God and what is of Satan…and discern what is the truth and the truthful person from what is the lie and the liar. How can ANYONE who genuinely cares for the well being of others see this and still be silent about it??? The answer is obvious.  

The clincher…is…that after all of the messages, email exchanges including the time I spent talking with Rob Ruckert on the phone…Rob Ruckert TOTALLY ignored the fact that Daniel Duval is teaching Luciferian doctrines!!! 

It is no wonder Rob Ruckert didn’t want me to go public with my findings and it is no wonder Rob Ruckert chose to ignore my concern over Daniel Duval’s lies and Daniel Duval teaching and practicing Luciferian doctrines…because he himself (Rob) is also teaching some of the same doctrines of demons Daniel Duval is, and Rob Ruckert is also incorporating these doctrines and practices in his “counseling” sessions with survivors.

My Email Back To Rob Ruckert’s Email That He “Gets It.”


From: Carolyn Hamlett
To: ruckert
Date: November 4th 2016 (3:14 PM)


Hi Rob,
No, Rob, you don’t get it. 

There is far more going on that you obviously do not know about. 

Daniel has completely been compromised. He ISN’T to be trusted. What he tells you is different than what he tells me or another person and different than what he is REALLY doing. Darla IS the same way. 

I have done the research on these people of whom Daniel is in bed with. I suggest that you do the same. What Daniel has been saying to you is not what he has been telling me. Daniel and Darla BOTH are saying one thing and doing another. They ARE DEEPLY involved in Satanic teaching, yet they deny it and accuse me of being affected by Satan.

Rob, you need to do your own research. Ask God to guide you…not the voice of Daniel Duval…and you NEED to make YOUR OWN decision as to whom YOU serve! And, in regards to whom you serve, I am not talking about serving Daniel or serving BRIDE Ministries! Whom do YOU serve?

You are making assumptions based on what Daniel has told you. You need to do you OWN investigation by yourself in order to SEE what all this actually is! Sure…the bottom line is Daniel’s discernment can not be trusted. THAT in itself should be enough to settle this whole matter! The 2nd issue that is very obvious now is that Daniel is ALSO lying. He is a manipulator. Darla is a manipulator. 

There is a HUGE reason WHY Daniel’s discernment is not to be trusted! It has to do with what he is tied into. Daniel Duval has been infected. Daniel has different faces depending upon who he is talking to and what his agenda is. He is deceitful. He is handled by Darla as are most people associated with BRIDE. If you do your research, you will see that this is true!

I thought my original simple bottom line information would be enough to sound an ALARM, but apparently not! It should be CRYSTAL CLEAR that I am NOT the person who needs to be counseled. 

 Rob, People CHANGE when they talk to Daniel. 

I have seen this over and over again with people who have legitimate concerns like I have, that they strangely change their minds after a short conversation with Daniel about their LEGITIMATE concerns!…like they have been mesmerized! There is something VERY wrong.

This boggles my mind!!!! And I see the same thing happening with you, Rob.

I am fully convinced that this is at the least, a spirit of divination involved. Obviously deceit is involved. 

I will not waste any more time on this. We are at the place where YOU, Rob, have to do the research that I did.

Please go do the research yourself. I sent you some links to get you started. Ask God to guide you. 

May God Bless you, Rob, and may God be your guide.

Carolyn

________________


(end of email)


My Emails To Dr. Preston Bailey

These next emails I want to share with you illustrate how Dr. Bailey flip flopped in his thinking like Rob Ruckert did each time he talked with Daniel Duval. If you remember earlier in the article I mentioned that when I spoke at length with Rob Ruckert and Dr. Bailey on the telephone, addressing the many different concerns I had, that they both at first seemed to understand and take my concerns seriously….UNTIL… they spoke with Daniel Duval. Then their their attitude changed toward me, and they seemed to have forgotten all my subsequent interactions with them of what the real issues were. Instead, after talking with Daniel Duval, they were some how convinced that my concerns were solely over about a single book or a single person. What causes people to change like like?  

This first email was after I had had the lengthy phone conversation with Dr. Bailey where I explained at length my concerns of the Luciferian doctrines Daniel Duval was involved in, the unsavory people he was yoked with and the deceit and lies of Daniel Duval, Darla Carver Guerra and their associates. 

Dr. Bailey and I exchanged a few more emails where he was very supportive and seemed to still understand what the real issues were. That suddenly changed when he talked with Daniel Duval and then it became about single book and a single person.

This is the email response I sent to Dr. Bailey:


From: Carolyn Hamlett
To: Dr. Bailey
Date: November 15th 2016


Dr. Bailey,
Daniel is not being honest. As I told you he has also lied publicly about me on all counts. He is a liar. A liar is a con. A liar murders the truth. He is lying because he has much to cover up. Today, he lost one more large piece of his sheep's clothing. His butt is showing. His facade is cracking and he has been scrambling to cover up what the REAL truth is. 

Daniel just mentioned a book to you. That is purely a smoke screen. It is more than just an author and just a book! In fact the book he keeps telling people I have a problem with is not even the worst book the guy has written. Daniel is totally covering up as to what he and and his associates are involved in and are teaching. They are involved in the occult, and practicing witchcraft. What they are doing, and the powers of darkness that they are allowing to work through them are more diabolical than ANYTHING I have come across since I was working hand in hand with Satan and his inner circle! This is VERY dark! VERY!  Satan is the CON of all cons and what Daniel has allowed to take him over is as close to Satan as any being I have ever dealt with. Very evil, very cunning, very slippery. 

Daniel has an unnatural evil ability he charms people with that makes them a submissive mental zombie after talking with him. It is soooo bizarre. They don't don't even notice it! He is a player and plays people. I know you are more solid than anyone I know, but I do have concern that Daniel will mesmerize you as he has done to others. This is not a negative statement about you, it is a statement as to the degree of evil Daniel is manifesting. The evil working through him and the evil he is allied with is so diabolical that I do see a need to warn you that this is not some low level demon. These are a mass of unified high ranking principalities. 

What they are aligned with is Lucifer himself and Lucifer's own plan, Lucifer's ace which he has been holding out to play just before he puts his "Christ" in global power. This plan of Satan is exactly what I was told when I was a kid that would be set in motion just before their "Christ" would be put in power. This plan was to muddy the waters that separate the TRUE teachings of Jesus Christ from the occult. This plan is to take people away from the solid fundamental teachings of the Word of God and smack dab into the occult all the while leading people to believe they are still "Christians". People will begin to be less and less like Jesus Christ and more and more evil hearted and like the power seeking narcissist that Satan is. 

Daniel KNOWS he is not doing what is of God. He has been making conscious choices to lie and slander , character assassinate anyone who finds out what he is doing so that no one will believe that person if they try to tell others the truth about Daniel. I personally know several people Daniel has done that to! I have heard from numerous others. He has been doing this for at least 2 years! BRIDE Ministries is becoming a cult in every sense of the word.

Another VERY unsavory character Daniel has yoked himself with is Steve Harmon. This is not hear say about this evil man. I personally know someone who was harmed by Steve Harmon. I wanted to help this person, but I went down and was without energy for weeks. Now I think this was not a coincidence. XXXX, who also knows this victim brought it to Daniel's attention and Daniel did NOTHING! If you want to hear this young lady's experience with Steve Harmon, I can arrange that. I am sure that you will be see how evil it was. This Steve Harmon who is a friend of Daniel's has a "angel" who is a demon that attacks people at his command. Two weeks ago Daniel denied to me that he knows Steve, but that was such a lie. Steve has even stayed at Daniel's house and in bed with a single woman. Now, two weeks later, Daniel has decided to not hide the fact that he knows Steve and is yoked with him. Steve is a victimizer and Daniel is shunning the victim and sheltering the victimizer. 

There is a long list of filthy "ministers" wolves in sheep's clothing that Dan Duval is yoked to. Two weeks ago Daniel totally denied it. Now he is coming out in the open with some of these people, but he is trying to get people to think that these people are men of God! He is very deceptive! Daniel is totally the man working to bridge the gap to take people away from God's Word and into the occult...the SAME plan, same jargon, same techniques I knew as a kid that "Lucifer" would be using as the final snag like the pied piper pipping an alluring song that takes the naive Christians away from God's Word, Jesus Christ and into Lucifer's lap. 

This is VERY serious. It is not about me having a problem with a book!

Two weeks ago, Daniel was trying to get people to think I had a problem with Darla. Daniel KNEW that was also a smoke screen. He wanted people to believe I was having a problem with Darla and that he, Daniel could patch it up. Daniel KNEW Darla was not the issue. He knew that I knew what he was involved in, but he chose to tell numerous lies about me. WHY? Why does anyone lie like that? To cover up the TRUTH about themselves. Daniel is afraid he will be exposed for what he is and what he is doing. He is building his own kingdom. He is a narcissist. He has a narcissistic personality. That should say it all. 

Since Daniel mentioned a book. Here is the author of that book and numerous others.

Dave Hayes “Praying Medic” Web Site books LINK: https://prayingmedic.com/my-books/

Click on the pics of the books. Takes you to Amazon where you can read descriptions and look inside the books.

Very telling. It is pure Luciferian repackaged as "Christian". 

The books are pure occult packaged as Christian. All are bad, but the very worst one is "Seeing In The Spirit".

I have witnessed on this guy's FB page him teaching people the SAME techniques we used to teach people to astral travel and remote view!!! And...to manipulate dreams and implant thoughts. 

Darla Carver Guerra who wears many hats now in BRIDE Ministries and The Fire Place Church is one of the infiltrators. She is also an evil con artist. In the spiritual warfare group on FB that she took over...she has also been teaching and promoting astral travel, remote viewing and all the diabolical doctrines that are being taught by Dave Hayes, Steve Harmon, Todd Bentley, Jeff Jensen and others. I have screen shots to prove it. 

XXXX was in a FB group chat with Darla and one of Darla's teacher friends was teaching the group occult techniques. I am sure XXXX would be happy to tell you about this. XXXX told me that this friend of Darla's was teaching people to do psychic energy shoves and to use their mental power to do something like visualize swords piercing their foreheads or maybe it was to pierce someone else's forehead. Either way it is evil occult teaching.

Below is a link to an interview of mine that was recorded a few weeks ago. This my way of an introduction of a heads up about some of the doctrines that are being peddled. I will be getting more descriptive next. My goal has been to expose the plan of Satan so people will recognize it for what it is...and I will be pointing people back to the Word of God which is the only way they will ever know what the Truth is. I want to put tools in the hands of people so that they can identify these doctrines of demons where ever they go...whether it is in a large church, small church, on line, synagogue, home study or a one on one conversation. 


Sorry about this long email, but there is so very much to all this than what Daniel wants you to believe. 

Blessings,

Carolyn

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(end of email)


Dr. Bailey emailed me back the same day I sent the above email to him where I once again explained many of my concerns and clearly made the point that the problem wasn’t at all what Daniel was telling him and wanting him to believe. It wasn’t all about a book!!!

“Carolyn: 
Thanks so much for clearing this up.” 
“These concerns me deeply what he is teaching. 
There are no shortcuts in the kingdom of God. 
Thanks so much! 
Dr Bailey”


However…Two weeks later… Dr. Bailey does yet another about-face! After another talk with Daniel Duval, Dr. Bailey seemed to have forgotten again what the REAL issues were. Daniel had Dr. Bailey back on track to thinking the issue was a single person and a single book.  

In a short email from Dr. Bailey he told me, “I talked with Daniel about his guest and said he [Daniel] never read his book. So I bought the book and am reading it.”  
I think it is silly for anyone to think that I would sever ties with Daniel Duval and leave BRIDE Ministries over a petty disagreement with one or two individuals. For those who believe that, they certainly don’t know me and for those who take Daniel Duval’s word for why he says I left BRIDE, they certainly don’t know Daniel Duval either. 
The old saying applies here, “It will all come out in the wash”.

An even older saying and promise applies: For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.” ~ Jesus of Nazareth (Luke 8:17)


In all seriousness... IF, after reading this article you have the misfortune of listening to or talking with Daniel Duval, we (Loren Grace and I) strongly advise that you come back and re-read this article to remind yourself of the truth! 

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Here's Daniel Duval's (much shorter) response to the above allegations.

Wednesday, December 21, 2016

Open Response Regarding Attacks and Slander



Open Response Regarding Attacks and Slander



For those of you that have arrived at a place of concern or simply grave disappointment at recent attacks against me and a host of other proven men and women of God, we are very sorrowful regarding the actions of survivors we formerly affiliated with. At BRIDE Ministries, we are committed to creating a safe place for survivors and to maintaining a posture of love. We fundamentally disagree with the conclusions of those that have engaged in accusation and slander against us. The efforts at character assassination of men and women of God are unfortunate. We continue support and endorse Dr. Preston Bailey, Dr. Rob Ruckert, and the staff and volunteers that we have been blessed with. In response to some of the more blatant accusations, we at BRIDE Ministries do not teach or endorse astral projection or the occult technique of the invasion of dreams. We do believe that there is a ministry to the human spirit because God made us spirit, soul, and body (1 Thessalonians 5:23). We also believe that the Bible says the Lord has courts according to Psalm 100:4, "Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name." The redemptive gifts that have been denounced as error are clearly articulated in Romans 12:6-8. All accusations regarding the "shining ones” or "manifest sons of God” are unfounded. As of this date we have no public teaching on either of these subjects, neither have we arrived at a place of doctrinal agreement as to what we as a ministry believe on these subjects. As a cutting edge ministry, we find ourselves wrestling through a number of tough subjects that are brought up in the course of DID coaching. These are two of many debated subjects that have come up in the course of private conversations and ministry sessions. We work hard to test everything with the help of the Holy Spirit and hold fast to what is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21). We will continue to hold up those that attack us in prayer and hope that you do the same. Blessings!

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Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace talk about their reasons for leaving Bride Ministries over a couple of lengthy videos. Having watched all three, I believe them to be sincere and not deliberately trying to discredit Bride Ministries and Daniel Duval, who they suggest may not have been working for the dark (Satanic) side initially, but may have succumbed to Occult persuasions after spending time with clients. In the video description they list a number of organisations that they suspect may also be teaching Occult practices under the guise of Christianity.

Links: 


Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Expose Christian Witchcraft, Part 1 - 3: The SPIRIT MAN
ublished on Dec 23, 2016

Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace talk about Christian Witchcraft as it relates to the "Spirit Man" doctrine. 

__________

I was unable to add links directly to the video the way I had intended. I apologize. Below are the links that were supposed to be in the video:

LINKS FROM THE VIDEO:

Carolyn's Blog: http://beyondthephysicalrealm.com OR…. http://beyondthephysical.blogspot.com

Why I Left BRIDE Ministries (blog article): http://beyondthephysical.blogspot.com... 

The Competition Swimmer Who Nearly Drowned in the Sea of Churchianity (blog article): http://beyondthephysical.blogspot.com... 

Origins of Pentecostalism and the Charismatic Movement (PDF document): http://gospelhour.info/pdf/origins_of... 

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The following is a list of ministries, teachers, leaders, and schools you can research and decide for yourself if what they teach is Biblical and Godly or not. As the web is large, this is NOT a comprehensive list, but some of the "bigger names." There are many smaller ministries that teach the same or very similar doctrines as the following.




MINISTRIES TO RESEARCH:

Voice of Fire Ministries - (Adam and Paula Thompson)

The Fire Place Church - (Daniel Duval) 

Fresh Fire - (Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson)

Global Fire - Murfreesboro, Tennessee (Jeff Jansen) 

Global Fire - Australia. (Senior Coordinators are Daryl and Belinda Crawford-Marshall

Glory Fire Now - (David Burt) 

Voice of Fire - (Adam Thompson also Itinerant Ministry is Field of Dreams Australia)

Run With Fire Ministries - (Roy Fields and Melanie Fields)

Sapphire Leadership Group, Inc. - (Arthur Burk)

Ignited Church - (Stephen Strader)

BRIDE Ministries - (Daniel Duval)

Bride Movement - (Daniel Duval)

Bethel Church - (Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson)

Morning Star Ministries - (Rick Joyner)

Field of Dreams - (Todd and Rachel Weatherly, Senior Associate Leaders are Adam and Paula Thompson (Voice of Fire), Young adult leaders and worship Karl and Amber Smith, Worship leader Mark Jory, Women’s Pastoral Care Bronwyn Jory)

Gateway Church Australia

Gateway Church Texas

Generation Fire - (Donny McGregor -founder, Bob Crockford, Bony Baroi) 

Fire Rain Ministries (Rick Pino)

Fire on the Altar - (Rick Pino) - regional worship events of 50-hour gatherings of non-stop worship in the heart of the tabernacle of David

Burn 24-7 - (founded by Sean Feucht of IHOP) 

Breakthrough Ministries - (Rob Ruckert)



SCHOOLS TO RESEARCH:

Bethel School of Healing - (Bill Johnson, Chris Gore)

School of Healing and Deliverance - (Field of Dreams)

The School of the Supernatural Realms of Heaven - (Todd Bentley)

FIREHUB SCHOOL of SUPERNATURAL MINISTRIES - (Generation Fire)




TEACHERS TO RESEARCH:

Todd Bentley

Bill Johnson

Chris Gore

Stephen Strader

Rick Joyner

Daniel Duval

Dave Hayes (Praying Medic)

Ian Clayton

Rob Ruckert

Jeff Jansen

Daryl and Belinda Crawford-Marshall

David Burt

Rick Pino

Roy Fields and Melanie Fields

Arthur Burk

Sean Feucht

Adam and Paula Thompson

Bobby Conner

David Herzog

Mike Bickle

Steve Harmon

William Branham

Ken Fish

Karl and Amber Smith

Glen Beakley

Bron and Mark Jory

Darren Canning

David Hogan

Bronwyn Jory

Karl and Amber Smith

Mark Jory

Adam and Paula Thompson

Todd and Rachel Weatherly

C. Peter Wagner

Kat Kerr

Patricia King

Sid Roth



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Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace have a list of recommended resources which is worthy of a look for information on Christianity and the Occult. From what I've seen of Carolyn, I'm impressed and think she's the real deal, although she's embroiled in some highly controversial topics so I could be wrong about her too. I have read some of Kurt E Koch's books and indeed posted a link to one of them last year. I will vouch that he is a Christian author who's worthy of attention on occult stuff. I have read a couple of articles on Paul Fahy's site and they generally seem very good, although on some of the current affairs/world news topical information he's fallen prey to the "West is bad, Russia is good" psyop propaganda from the Alex Jones crowd.

Recommend Reading on Occult Bondage and Deliverance


Books by Kurt E. Koch, Th.D


Kurt E. Koch (1913-1987) is regarded by many to have been the world's leading authority on the occult. He received his Doctor of Theology degree from Tubingen University and was a noted German theologian, minister, and evangelist. He pastored and counseled those suffering from the occult in its various forms throughout the world, covering sixty-five countries and five continents.


I first heard of Kurt E. Koch and his books in the late 1980's through Johanna Michaelsen. Thirty years later, I still value these books over all the books I have ever read on the topics of occult bondage and deliverance. 


Just some of the things you will learn through books by Kurt E. Koch:
  • Clarification of what constitutes the occult.  
  • Why it is so dangerous to “dabble” in anything of occult nature.
  • The effects (fruits) of  “dabbling” in anything of occult nature.
  • Gifts of The Holy Spirit or Mediumistic gifts?
  • Why it is imperative that every Christian renounce and repent of all occult involvement, supernatural gifts (abilities) and renounce ancestral ties.
  • (There are Christians who are unknowingly practicing witchcraft.)


BETWEEN CHRIST AND SATAN
(Republished under the title The Lure of the Occult


An investigation of the consequences of and deliverance from occultism. 

What are the dangers of spiritism, magic, and the occult? What are the consequences of involvement? What does the Bible say about them? An investigation into occultism which includes chapters on fortune-telling, magic and spiritism, and is based on over 160 examples which have come to light through counseling people. 192 pages.






CHRISTIAN COUNSELING AND OCCULTISM: 
A Complete Guidebook to Occult Oppression and Deliverance

Counseling the psychically disturbed and those oppressed through involvement in occultism. 

An in-depth study of problems involved in counseling people entrapped in the occult from the points of view of medicine, psychology and theology. A practical, theological and systematic investigation in the light of present day psychological and medical knowledge. 340 pages.







DEMONOLOGY PAST AND PRESENT

A discussion of the work of demons and illustrations of people who are involved in demonic activity. Christian counseling and occultism, demonology, mediumistic powers and spiritual gifts, occult subjection, miracles of healing today-their Biblical suggestive or demonic character, demon possession and deliverance. 162 pages.









OCCULT ABC:
Exposing Occult Practices and Ideologies

This work shines a light on spiritual abuses, ideologies, parapsychology, and spiritism, illuminating dangers of involvement in these practices and providing the knowledge necessary to avoid Satan's devices. 356 pages.

(If you can name it, it's probably in this book.)







OCCULT BONDAGE AND DELIVERANCE
Counseling the Occultly Oppressed

An introduction into the counseling of people who are under occult bondage and subjection. 
Part One: Christian Counseling, Part Two: Medical Diagnosis. 198 pages.

Included: the effects (fruits) of occult subjection: effects on character, emotional disturbances, mental illness, mediumistic abilities, Mediumistic healers in the charismatic movement, Possession, symptoms of possession, can Christians be possessed?, deliverance and the Scriptures, qualifications of a Christian counselor, counseling procedure, mediumistic contacts and friendships must be broken, every occult related object must be destroyed, disease or demonic?, Christians and demonic subjection, confession, prayer of renunciation. 





OCCULT PRACTICES AND BELIEFS
(Formerly The Devil's Alphabet
A Biblical Examination from A to Z

A review of 47 forms of superstition, fortune-telling, magic and spiritism plus New Testament teaching for deliverance. 


The fourth edition of this book has been expanded to include five new sections on Colour Therapy, Firewalking, Telepathy, Tongue's Movements, and Umbanda and Macumba. 156 pages.







THE DEVIL’S ALPHABET
(Same book as Occult Practices and Beliefs)

A review of 47 forms of superstition, fortune-telling, magic and spiritism plus New Testament teaching for deliverance. 

The fourth edition of this book has been expanded to include five new sections on Colour Therapy, Firewalking, Telepathy, Tongue's Movements, and Umbanda and Macumba. 156 pages.






THE LURE OF THE OCCULT
(Formerly titled Between Christ and Satan) 

An investigation of the consequences of and deliverance from occultism.

What are the dangers of spiritism, magic, and the occult? What are the consequences of involvement? What does the Bible say about them? Answers to such questions make this a classic work on demonic activity. Includes case studies. 






CHARISMATIC GIFTS

Some topics covered:


Discerning of spirits: The Holy Spirit and alien spirits (‘alien’ meaning unholy spirits pretending to be the Holy Spirit), the tongues movement, evaluation of spiritual gifts, the fruits of The Holy Spirit: spurious fruits, much fruit in Jesus, transformation into His image, the Gift of all gifts: Jesus, the different sources of the gifts, mediumistic gifts, the variety of ministries. 174 pages. 







THE STRIFE OF TONGUES

A study of the Tongues Movement including its development, case studies of its effect on people and the answer from Scripture. 

Is there a biblical basis for speaking in tongues today? This enlightening study objectively discusses the issue by exploring the related scriptures. Twenty-seven case histories, which reveal the effect of the tongues movement on people, highlight the discussion and illustrate many of the authors personal observances. Additionally, the author discusses the development of the movement from 1900 until the present. Believers will find helpful answers to their questions and practical instruction based on the Word of God. 48 pages.



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Books by Johanna Michaelsen


Johanna Michaelsen will always have a special place in my heart for writing the book that gave me the courage to trust in the name of Jesus Christ and to call upon Him to literally deliver me from Satan. Thank you, Johanna for all you have done for me. May God Richly Bless you. May your testimony continue to bring many more souls out of the kingdom of darkness and into the Kingdom of Light, that of Jesus Christ. 


About Johanna: She is a highly sought-after speaker for seminars, radio, and television. Her acclaimed autobiography, The Beautiful Side of Evil, has given her wide recognition as a foremost authority on the inner workings of the occult in today's society.

The Beautiful Side of Evil  by Johanna Michaelsen:
Are all miracles from God, or is there a beautiful side of evil? The blind see, the deaf hear, and the lame walk. Is God always behind such miracles, or can there be another source?

This is a true account of a young woman who, while in search of spiritual truth, became a personal assistant to a psychic surgeon in Mexico for 14 months. Then, in answer to her prayers, God revealed the true source behind the miraculous healings she witnessed. Lifting the veil of deception, He allowed her to see the evil behind the outward appearance of beauty and holiness. Johanna Michaelsen reveals how this deadly deception is not isolated to her unusual experience but rather is invading our everyday lives, even our churches.


My personal note: I highly recommend this book. It was by reading this book that I was able to finally SEE and accept the Truth that I was indeed serving the "Lords of Darkness". The most deceptive tactic of Satan and his servants is to create the illusion of beauty, perfection, purity, and Holiness.

I recently re-read "The Beautiful Side of Evil" and realized that this book is even more relevant today than when Johanna wrote it! I am alarmed at how much of the occult practices are presently being taught and promoted by professing "Christians". I am equally alarmed at the numbers of Christians who are blindly following these servants of Satan and are now practicing the occult.  

TEST THE SPIRITS !!! How can you ever know what is not of God if you are busy following after other voices???

People need to go back to the Bible, read it in context, ask God to open the eyes of their understanding. People need to seek God with their whole heart and follow after Jesus Christ! and not some modern day "prophet" who twists and tortures the scriptures to make it say something it does not!

Like Lambs To The Slaughter: Your Child and The Occult

Dungeons and Dragons, Saturday Morning Cartoons, Star Wars, E.T., Yoga, Spirit Guides, Guided Imagery & Visualization, Storybooks On Witchcraft and the Occult: Are these merely innocent, fun filled activities for kids designed to expand creativity and intelligence, or are these the subtle influences that are leading our children Like Lambs To The Slaughter.

This urgent appeal for awareness by best-selling author Johanna Michaelsen takes the concerned parent into the world of the innocent child by exploring and exposing the growing power of the occult in the lives of our children. Leaders in this New Age of Humanism intend to employ every means at their disposal to turn the hearts and minds of children away from fundamental Christian values and beliefs. 

This timely and welcome work by Johanna Michaelsen gives parents tools to counter the growing influence of the occult in their children's lives.


Additional Recommendations:


Recommended Reading

The following is a short list of reading material that we both recommend. We do not receive compensation in any way if you choose to buy these books.

Carolyn Hamlett also has a suggested reading list at her website: Recommended Reading on Occult Bondage and Deliverance

While we cannot say that we give a blanket endorsement of every single word each of these authors have written, we do agree with their overall message and believe them to be credible and reliable sources of information, lining up with the Word of God. As always, be a good Berean for yourself, and line up the words of mankind with the Word of God found in Scripture.

Acts 17:11-12

“Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true. As a result, many of them believed, along with quite a few prominent Greek women and men.” (BSB)

 


Kurt Koch

Short Bio

Kurt E. Koch (1913-1987) received his Doctor of Theology degree from Tübingen University and was a noted German theologian, minister, and evangelist. He pastored and counseled those suffering from the occult in its various forms throughout the world, covering sixty-five countries and five continents.

Books We Recommend

1. Between Christ and Satan (republished under, The Lure of the Occult)

2. Christian Counseling and Occultism

3. Demonology Past and Present

4. Occult ABC

5. Occult Bondage and Deliverance 

6. Occult Practices and Beliefs (formerly titled, The Devil’s Alphabet)

7. Charismatic Gifts

8. The Strife of Tongues


Johanna Michaelsen

Short Bio

Since Johanna Michaelsen’s exit from the occult in November of 1972, she has devoted her time to studying current trends and occult practices for the purpose of warning and equipping the church in these last days. Her books, tapes, audio-book, seminars, and lectures have helped thousands find freedom and peace in Jesus Christ.

Contact Info

Facebook: Johanna Michaelsen Ministries

Website: michaelsenministries.com

Books We Recommend

1. The Beautiful Side of Evil

2. Like Lambs To The Slaughter: Your Child and The Occult


Paul Fahy

Short Bio

Paul Fahy lives in southern England and has exercised a teaching ministry in various churches since 1971. He has planted house churches and had a wide experience of church life since then. He currently serves as a pastor-teacher in a house church in Brighton. Part of Paul’s ministry is conducted through the Internet, counseling and teaching. His teaching articles are first sent out to subscribers across the world.

Contact Info

Website: understanding-ministries.com

Papers We Recommend

(These are links to the PDF downloads)

1. The Origins of Pentecostalism

2. Occult Inroads into the Charismatic Movement

3. A simple critique of Dominionism

4. What is Manifest Sons of God theology

Source: https://askcarolynandloren.com/recommended-reading/

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Another Christian Youtuber chimes in on Carolyn Hamlett's defection.

Wednesday, July 5, 2017

FALSE FIRE - Dan Duval & the Spirit-Man Heresy (Christian Witchcraft) Video




Published on Jun 27, 2017 by "the Truth is stranger than fiction..." 

“Much to my dismay I have recently come to realize that there is an increasing amount of teaching falling under the guise of "spiritual warfare" that is in fact a collection of various Luciferian concepts/practices, and sadly, many people are being deceived into interacting with entities they believe to be "angels" or even their own "spirit-person", which is tantamount to engaging with a "spirit guide", a very dangerous and destructive practice quite central to New Age and Occult spirituality.

I have actually been familiar with the figure of Dan Duval for several years, and the testimony of Carolyn Hamlet, yet I would have never have imagined that someone who claims to have Jesus and the Word of God as their guide and source for Truth, could stray so far into blatant occult practice and thinking…”

Links for further research:


Exposing Christian Witchcraft, Part One: The “SPRIT MAN” doctrine

PART 2 - Exposing Christian Witchcraft. MORE on the “SPIRIT MAN” doctrine

PART 3 - Exposing Christian Witchcraft - Spirit Man doctrine, Redemptive Gifts, the Shining Ones


FALSE FIRE [part 2] Planets = Beings?? + Reverse-Engineered Quantum Occultism...   


Published on Jun 27, 2017

excerpt (+ my short commentary) from "Dan Duval Quantum Physics and The Spirit Realm" https://youtu.be/MlOVDOpoilY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihXJWiAe0CI

Telling The Trueh

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Apr 13, 2018, 1:47:46 PM4/13/18
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Carolyn and Loren Grace are both SRA survivors who have been programmed to take down ministries.  Carolyn has publicly testified to this. She is being used to slander a ministry that Satan hates. She may not be aware of the evil plans she is cooperating with, but her lies, slanders, and accusations have hurt a lot of people.  The way that they go about their attacks are so anti-biblical that is is hard to believe that any real Christian would fall for this.  They discourage people from Jesus because it could be a fake Jesus.  They purport that spiritual weapons are not biblical and that we do not have a spirit man.  All these are clearly laid out in the Bible.  This is sad.

Danial Duval has provided a response to this nonsense after a year and half to address their accusations. Check out it and prayerfully consider the demonic attacks you are getting in agreement with. 



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Apr 14, 2018, 1:43:55 AM4/14/18
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The purpose of this thread is to represent both sides of the story without bias.

I had not seen that response from Daniel Duval so I appreciate you posting the link.

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Sep 7, 2018, 12:30:46 PM9/7/18
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Hi :) 

Since this thread is for the purpose of representing both sides of the story without bias, I am taking the opportunity to post our perspective here so that investigators get precisely that: both sides. Thank you.

Opening Thoughts

It has been a year and a half since Carolyn Hamlett broke ties with me, BRIDE Ministries, and my associates. This extended period of time has given me the opportunity to contemplate the unfortunate series of events that transpired beginning in late 2016. I have arrived at what I believe is a relatively complete understanding of what transpired, and I believe that I owe it to my followers and those that support us to provide this perspective. I also believe I owe it to those that are coming across derogatory information about me and our organization, who have been left to decide for themselves what to believe without access to an extended official response. After a year and a half of relative silence on the malicious attacks and slander that she and her associate, Loren Grace, have vaulted against me and our organization, I am finally going to address the attacks, and provide some explanations that I believe are in order. At the outset of my commentary, I will plainly state a few things that simply need to be said. I am not doing this for myself, my ego, or to save face. There are thousands that support us, and our organization is stronger than ever. It doesn’t bother me that there was an attempt to drag my name and the name of our organization through the mud by writing and speaking against the things which I have been called to do. Others have taken content from Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace and produced YouTube videos against me. Also, this doesn’t bother me. I don’t mind if people disagree with me or the things I teach, I believe that this is their prerogative. What does bother me is that people continue to find libel published about me, my friends, and the ministry God has called me to build without a public response to the accusations. While I do not regret choosing to let God be my defender for the past year and a half, I do regret not sticking up for my friends. I also feel that I owe a debt to the survivors that have only received one side of a story and for this reason were scared away from resources and community that could have made a difference in their lives.

 

The Reality that Everyone should know

1.      I considered Carolyn Hamlett to be a very close friend. I worked with her to minister inner healing and deliverance between the years of 2013 and 2016. We spent countless hours undoing the programming she had received from the organization she was born into and government projects. I never charged her a dime and was never compensated for the work I did with her. Loren Grace was my first paying client and I began working with her in 2014 and continued until Spring of 2016, when she chose to stop working with me. The private details of things that came up during our sessions will not be divulged during this commentary, and all of my comments will be restricted to those things which have already been acknowledged by them publicly. Regardless of how a client or survivor smears me, I would never publish intimate details, tying their names and stories to our work together without their express consent.

2.      Both Carolyn and Loren have publicly testified to being survivors of satanic ritual abuse and also government sponsored mind control programming. My heart breaks for them over this fact, as it does over every survivor that we work to help at BRIDE Ministries. However, as with all survivors, they have had parts which include soul fragments, spirit fragments, and fragments that are a combination of soul and spirit. Whenever a person is shattered in this way, these parts can have programming or inlaid demonization that can be triggered to make them do things that are within the objectives of the powers of darkness.

3.      Carolyn was raised in an organization that programmed their people to take down ministries. This is evidenced by her mother, who was trained to infiltrate ministries and take them down, which Carolyn publicly testified to on my podcast. In other words, she was trained by abusers in the kingdom of darkness to destroy ministries that the powers of darkness deemed a threat. It is important to note that many ministers who have begun a journey towards helping survivors have endured public attacks and accusations by the survivors they tried to help, and for this reason, some of them have quit. I have met some of these people and heard some of their stories. The sad truth is that when a survivor gets triggered to carry out a program to take down a ministry, it is typically the case that the survivor isn’t in full control of their actions and will even believe they are being led by God. Those on the receiving end of these attacks often internalize it as a personal failure, or a failure of God to step in, and can be left in a very low place after the attack has been executed.

 

Steps to Take down a ministry through division

The enemy can and does use infiltrators, which can be well-meaning but triggered survivors, to take down ministries. Before going further, I am going to lay down a systematic strategy for taking a ministry down with an infiltrator. Another survivor, who has been featured on my podcast and who has publicly testified to being programmed to take down a ministry, has fully agreed with the points I am about to share with you. After explaining the strategy, I am going to overlay the series of events that transpired between me and Carolyn Hamlett, and by extension, Loren Grace, with that strategy. Afterwards, I am going to address some actual accusations.

1.      Get close to the leadership or become a leader yourself within the targeted organization.

2.      Bring accusation against the man or woman of God at the head of the ministry and promote slander and gossip against them.

3.      Try to take as many people as possible out of agreement with the leader over the organization, urging them to leave with or without an actual solution as to what they should do.

4.      Make the case against the leadership an ultimatum and force people to make a choice while providing no room for reconciliation with the leader. Paint a portrait of the leader that is beyond redemption and beyond hope. Generate an atmosphere of fear and panic so that people become reactionary.

5.      Recruit as many public voices as possible to the case against the targeted leader and/or organization.

6.      Continue to write and speak against the organization and its leadership. If this phase is successful, it will render the leader and organization incapable of effectively executing its mandate from heaven. The ministry will be taken down, and its influence will be left in tatters.

 

The steps that Carolyn and Loren ultimately took

1.      Carolyn became one of my closest friends. We did many podcasts together. I invested countless hours over a period of years into her, to pray with her, and to minister deliverance and inner healing to her. Eventually, I invited her to be part of the board of BRIDE Ministries because I wanted to have a trusted survivor to provide perspective on the decisions we were making. She had the hearts of many that had connected to the ministry because of her testimony and blog. In all of this, I believe she was very genuine. This may be my naivety, but even now I do not believe that either of us were aware of dormant programming that would eventually get triggered. This is not an accusation that she was knowingly infiltrating the organization from day 1. Nonetheless, point 1 was achieved.

a.      Get close to the leadership or become a leader yourself within the targeted organization.

2.      On October 31st, 2016 I received a text from Carolyn while I was on my way back from a short trip to California to meet with a friend at a church conference. It was followed up with a phone call during which she was agitated, suggesting she was “leaving BRIDE Ministries”. The following day I received a text saying she was going to divorce herself from BRIDE Ministries, which was followed up by more communication efforts on my behalf to address her concerns. (I later realized that this is when dormant programming began to be triggered.) She brought accusation to me regarding a gentleman I had hosted on my podcast and a beloved woman, named Darla, who has blessed the lives of many survivors connecting with our organization. I offered to take the offending podcast down until we could have more dialogue. When I attempted to arrange a conversation between me, her and Darla she refused. No amount of reasonable effort that I made to address her concerns were acknowledged or received, and the few conversations we had were circular, frantic, and inconsequential. This, looking back, was evidence that a dormant program had been triggered, flinging her into a state of manipulated consciousness.

3.      The following weekend, without notice, she publicly posted an article on her blog saying she was divorcing herself from BRIDE Ministries. She posted it while I was speaking at a conference in Tennessee. At that time, she was still a member of the board of BRIDE Ministries. She did not consult with any of the other board members before making this move. She immediately began to share this initial article through private Facebook messages to many of our common friends to raise as much controversy as possible. In this, point 2 was achieved.

a.      Bring accusation against the man or woman of God at the head of the ministry and promote slander and gossip against them.

4.      This initial post was made during one of my messages at the conference she knew I was going to be speaking at that weekend. Even now I ask: Why did the post have to go up at that time? Looking back, if she was operating from a place of sound mindedness and a foundation of friendship and trust that had been established through countless hours of conversation that occurred over a period of years, it is hard to argue that this is a reasonable course of action. Do people really betray their friends and associates like this without outside influence? Again, she was still on the board of our ministry as she was beginning to attack. She went from bringing accusation against people I was associated with, to accusing people firmly connected to BRIDE Ministries, to ultimately making the entire conversation a direct attack against me.

5.      As she came out publicly against me, she did not request to speak at a board meeting about her alleged concerns, nor would she agree to civil conversations about her alleged concerns. She never submitted a formal resignation apart from her public statements. During the first weekend of November, when she released her first blog article against me, she immediately began accusing me of sending threatening texts to her. This happened via social media as I tried to ask her about the article she had written via private texts. She had written, released, and promoted an article that people were suddenly asking me about, with good reason, because it suggested there were some deeply concerning things about me and our ministry. She would not answer my phone calls, she would not be civil, and she used my efforts to text her as further accusation against me. There was no availability for reconciliation. When I realized that any communication with her would be misrepresented and used in her case against me, I promptly stopped reaching out. This concluded our communications. By this point, I surmise that the program to take down BRIDE Ministries was fully activated.

6.      She continued to use Facebook to private message my employees, close affiliates, friends, the BRIDE Ministries survivor community, and even people that I was loosely connected with. She sent them her slander, libel, and eventually her slanderous videos against me and BRIDE Ministries. In this, she continually created ultimatums for anyone that responded back to her or tried to better understand her, suggesting that if they wanted to be responsible, they had to get away from me and our ministry as fast as possible. This was reported to me by numerous individuals including my own employees at the time. In this, point 3 was achieved.

a.      Try to take as many people as possible out of agreement with the leader over the organization, urging them to leave with or without an actual solution as to what they should do.

7.      She went after survivors in our community to try and recruit them to her cause. She first went after Eleyna, who was still my client at the time, and who had done several profound programs on my podcast. At first, Eleyna believed Carolyn’s accusations and responded by publicly leaving BRIDE Ministries as well. Not too long afterwards, she realized what Carolyn was doing and decided to stop cooperating. When Carolyn couldn’t get her to follow in her path, she turned on Eleyna, attacking her publicly as well. The stress of everything drove Eleyna into a very dark place and she got incredibly sick. In her own words, she was “left devasted”. Carolyn continued to accuse everyone that did not immediately separate themselves from BRIDE Ministries, suggesting that they were wrong or deceived because they were not hearing and responding to what she called “the truth.” The accusation was that I was unreasonable, deceptive, and could not be trusted under any circumstances. The information always came with an ultimatum. She then made the official statement that anything I said that was contrary to what she claimed was “the truth” were “lies.” In her mind, she had all the truth, and I had all the lies. She was right, I was wrong. She was good, I was bad. This is pure black/white thinking often associated with programming. She then evaded all accountability by disabling comments on the slander and libel she published to various platforms such as Facebook, her personal blog, and eventually YouTube. This, of course, was to ensure that no one could be seen publicly disagreeing with her. Then she connected with Loren Grace and recruited her to be an associate against me and BRIDE Ministries. By this time, point 4 was achieved.

a.      Make the case against the leadership an ultimatum and force people to make a choice while providing no room for reconciliation with the leader. Paint a portrait of the leader that is beyond redemption and beyond hope. Generate an atmosphere of fear and panic so that people become reactionary.

8.      Together, Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace assembled a slanderous article accusing me of all sorts of terrible things such as being a Luciferian, a practitioner of witchcraft, a teacher of heresies, a cult leader, and an abusive coach. Not only did they attack me, but they published private emails between them and Dr. Rob Ruckert and Dr. Bailey without permission to try and strengthen their case and promote division. They wrote many half-truths as they assembled a case against me, concluding that the only sensible thing anyone could do after reading their libel about me was to get as far away from our ministry as possible. Again, this reflects the ultimatum. This blog remains published on the internet, waiting to be found by any skeptic that would otherwise connect with our tools or ministry. To it, a negative testimony page was added, achieving point 5.

a.      Recruit as many public voices as possible to the case against the targeted organization.

9.      After a number of people were swayed, they continued to make videos and write articles, ultimately composing a book, making it their platform to take down the platform of BRIDE Ministries. In the process they brought accusation against many fruit-bearing leaders in the body of Christ, naming individuals that they neither had personal knowledge of nor experience with, but who they grouped into a massive accusation against leaders in the body of Christ. They continue to publish any material they can secure from others to strengthen their case. Though radically unsuccessful, they continue to pursue point 6.

a.      Continue to write and speak against the organization and its leadership. If this phase is successful, it will render the leader and organization incapable of effectively executing its mandate from heaven. The ministry will be taken down, and its influence will be left in tatters.

Carolyn clearly followed a proven strategy to destroy a ministry from the inside. She used proven techniques in order to introduce division and brought Loren Grace in as her partner.

 

Some scriptures to consider

There is one who speaks rashly like the thrusts of a sword, But the tongue of the wise brings healing. (Proverbs 12:18)

These six things the Lord hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among brethren. (Proverbs 6:16-19)

Bearing with one another, and forgiving each other, whoever has a complaint against anyone; just as the Lord forgave you, so also should you. (Colossians 3:13)

A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. (John 13:34)

Moreover, if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. (Matthew 18:15-17)

In the process of all that transpired, Carolyn broke my heart because I considered her a very close friend. I had grown to love both her and Loren Grace as sisters in Christ that I believed to be incredibly brave for the healing journeys that they took. Nonetheless, they did many things that were simply not right, and now I will address a few things that I believe deserve to be confronted.

 

Offences of Carolyn Hamlett

1.      Carolyn brought false accusation against Darla Guerra, who is one of the most loving and compassionate women of God I have met, and publicly bullied and slandered her. This was not right.

2.      Carolyn denounced her longstanding friend Karolyn Otlewski as a deceiver trying to gain influence by using her name. Karolyn was a supporter and prayer warrior for Carolyn Hamlett long before I met her. She was also a huge blessing to other survivors that had connected with BRIDE Ministries.

3.      Carolyn broke fellowship with every survivor that didn’t break fellowship with me, accusing them of being cowards and of leading other survivors into deception, creating massive confusion in the survivor community with her ultimatums.

4.      She forced us to call a meeting to vote her off the board because she didn’t follow Godly protocol in respectably resigning from the board of BRIDE Ministries. Is this really the fruit of a sound-minded, Christian woman of God whose actions are entirely inspired by the Holy Spirit? No. This is not how the Holy Spirit works.

Offences of Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace

1.      They took private communications between themselves and men of God (Dr. Preston Bailey and Dr. Rob Ruckert) and published them without permission. This was done with the agenda to establish discord between me and men that I loved and respected.

2.      They assembled many half-truths and distortions of information and continually rewrote and reworded their libel to try and form the most potent case against me and BRIDE Ministries.

3.      They brought accusation against men and women of God, many of which have fruit-bearing ministries. Some of those they attacked are personal friends of mine that I respect and admire. In addressing their actions, I am standing up for those that I believe should be respected and honored. The Bible is clear to not touch the Lord’s anointed and to do His prophets no harm.

4.      A year and a half later, they continue to make their platform entirely dedicated to the attack of ministries they do not theologically agree with. Posting not only their slander and libel, but anything they receive from others that will strengthen their case.

The Testimony of BRIDE Ministries

While it didn’t feel good to get betrayed, attacked, and slandered, God worked all things together for good. In the beginning, it was hard. Within a few months of the attacks, our financial support dried up as many of our supporters were struggling with whether to trust me and BRIDE Ministries. Many people walked away or went on the fence to see what would happen. Thus, with reduced funding, I could no longer afford to pay staff or to continue to support as many survivor healing journeys as we had committed to.  At one point, we only had $600 in the ministry bank account. This was an all-time low for the ministry. I had to personally put thousands of dollars of my own money into BRIDE on top of my tithes just to prevent the organization from failing to pay out our financial obligations. The mandatory financial cut backs ultimately led to the dissolution of my entire staff and a lot of hurt feelings. Whereas at one point I had 3 staff members and several contractors, things transitioned to a place where I had to do the day in and day out duties entirely by myself. This did not include the production of The Fire Place Church services, but did include the podcast, the Fire Place Church live-stream, and the incredible amount of one-on-one coaching hours I was committed to.

Things didn’t go this way very long before Christian, who was at that time my fiancé, stepped up and began to help with the business component of BRIDE Ministries. She also began to help with fielding the emails that would come into the organization. She volunteered in this capacity and began to rethink our systems from the ground up, diagnosing our inefficiencies and building a website that would present a much cleaner face to the organization while streamlining many functions and eliminating the need for a larger staff with better systems.

As time went on and it became clear to more and more people that the slander and libel against me and BRIDE Ministries was misguided, our podcast listenership increased significantly. We changed our approached to The Fire Place church and attendance doubled, and then doubled again. We reduced our spending through most of 2017, but with improving systems, we were able to offer more by spending less. Then, in the last part of the year, ministry finances blossomed as financial support began to pour into BRIDE Ministries as never before.

Currently, we have more reach, more influence, more resources, and more impact than at any other time in the history of this ministry. God is moving, and we get testimonies pouring in every week regarding the way Jesus is transforming the lives of those that have connected with our ministry and resources. Now, we are in the early stages of building the BRIDE Ministries Institute, which will be the platform through which we release the DID Coaching school that I have been vision casting for years. God’s favor is upon us, and with the recent release of my latest book, Prayers that Shake Heaven and Earth, the testimonies coming back to us have only increased.

In addition to this, many of the people that either accused me, question me, or walked away from me altogether have come back and apologized. We continued to received testimonies detailing how the Lord personally revealed the true nature behind the inspiration of Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace. I cannot count, nor do I care to tabulate, the number of times people have come to me with their revelations and discernment on the way the enemy manipulated and used these broken women. Most of those that didn’t come back around were people that created challenges at BRIDE Ministries. What I realized in hindsight was that God used the attacks to prune the organization so that we could be repositioned to grow in a much healthier way. At the end of the day, God worked all things together for the good.

Evidence of Their Bad Fruit

1.      They attack the gifts of the spirit, yet these are clearly taught in 1 Corinthians 12. Many breakthroughs in inner healing and deliverance are secured by these gifts, including breakthroughs that each of them had experienced in the past.

2.      They attack the Courts of Heaven, yet there are many biblical scenes depicting events occurring in heavenly courts in books such as Job chapters 1 and 2, Zechariah chapter 3, and Revelation chapter 5. This revelation has been a profound blessing in the lives of many believers and has produced great fruit. It has been applied to secure breakthroughs that are undeniably of God. This is a revelation that has been well established by many other credible, fruit-bearing ministers such as Rob Henderson.

3.      They denounce spiritual warfare as unbiblical, which is merely religious programming that is designed to indoctrinate people into a powerless posture against the attacks of the enemy. This is very harmful to survivors and Christians in general. The Bible says the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty to the tearing down of strongholds for a reason. In Mark 16, it is written that we shall cast out demons. In Ephesians 6, it says we wrestle against principalities, powers, rulers of darkness, and spiritual wickedness in heavenly places. They confuse God’s genuine and approved methods of engaging in biblical spiritual warfare with the enemy’s counterfeit methods of engaging the spirit realm. This is a major fixture of their continued libel and slander.

4.      They attack the biblical doctrine concerning the spirit of man with twisted language, completely retelling their own testimonies to make their points. Many believers are connecting to their human spirits and beginning to come into alignment: spirit, soul and body (1 Thessalonians 5:23). This concept is not original to me and has been well-established by others. They may not agree that we are created a triune man, but that is a theological debate, not a valid point by which to accuse others of teaching Luciferian doctrine. In fact, Carolyn once told me that in her experience in the evil organization, they did not teach a triune man, and did not distinguish the spirit from the soul. The Luciferian doctrine she received did not acknowledge a triune man, meaning that by denying the triune man and the spirit of man, she is pushing people into the belief system she was indoctrinated with in the cult. This is a point worth stating for the record.

5.      They came against partnering with Jesus in the process of ministry because of their overwhelming fear of being deceived by a false Jesus. This is by far the most telling source of their inspiration. If I’m not partnered with the True Jesus Christ, Yeshuah Hamashiach, I’m not doing ministry period.

Our Fruit Since the attack

1.      We have continued to provide coaching opportunities for survivors that cannot afford it

2.      We have continued to create prayer resources that help people to get the freedom and breakthroughs they are seeking out and make them available for free at www.bridemovement.com

3.      We have continued to produce podcasts that explore the mechanics of the spirit realm, answer people’s questions, and advance a platform that gives survivors a voice to the greater body of Christ

4.      We have expanded the Fire Place Church and have experienced an increase in attendance

5.      We have been blessed and financially repositioned as an organization allowing us to take on bigger projects and exploits for Jesus

6.      We have established the BRIDE Ministries Institute

7.      We have begun hosting monthly intercessory prayer meetings for the city of Dallas

8.      We have continued to offer survivor support groups to healing survivors

9.      We have released people to host weekly and bi-weekly groups through the ministry platform, empowering believers to step out in their gifts

10.   We continue to create disciples of Jesus Christ and offer live trainings

Am I a Luciferian?

At the end of all of this the question may remain, what about all of the accusations regarding what Daniel teaches at BRIDE Ministries? What about his spirit man doctrine? What about the shining ones? Is he teaching heresy?

First, contrary to my accusers, I make my teachings public. While I will have conversations on topics I am not ready to teach with people those topics are relevant to, I do not have secret doctrines or teachings I reserve only for survivors that I am targeting with witchcraft.

Second, Carolyn and Loren are promoting a very different theology than I embrace. Plain and simple, we disagree, and I am okay with that. They are entitled to their opinions and views of scripture, but to accuse me deceiving others with Luciferian doctrine is a misplaced accusation. They do not believe in the reality of the Courts of Heaven, but I do and reference Job chapters 1 and 2, Zechariah chapter 3, Daniel chapter 7:9-10, and many other biblical references I won’t take the time to list. I have used the courts of heaven and seen the fruit that they can produce in the lives of believers trying to address complex problems in the spirit, and so have thousands of other believers. They do not believe in spiritual gifts, but I do, as they are clearly articulated in 1 Corinthians 12:1-11. They do not believe in the triune nature of man, but I do as it is clearly articulated in 1 Thessalonians 5:23. They do not believe that people should work with Jesus in order to take their healing journey because they will end up working with a counterfeit Jesus that is actually a demon. I believe that there are demons that dress up like Jesus, and that people can work with the true Yeshua, who is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. There is a balance and yes, discernment is required, but the Bible says in John 10:4 that His sheep know his voice, and they will follow him.

Third, I have been accused of teaching a Luciferian Doctrine on Shining Ones. According to their main article against me, they wrote:

“Carolyn has her own perspective to add, but to me, the entire affair with Duval boils down to this: the public “spirit man” teaching combined with the ungodly belief that it is “okay with God” if people are half-human and half-angel (Biblically, this human/angel hybrid came about because of fallen angels, and not something God was or is okay with…), led to the private “Shining Ones” theology, which has led to all other sorts of occult doctrines, including astral travel (in the guise of “spirit travel”),remote viewing (under the name, “seeing in the spirit”), casting spells and throwing around curses (in the name of “spiritual warfare” and “prayer”), sending forth demons to attack people (the demons are disguised as angels, and they are doing this, again, in the name of “spiritual warfare” and “prayer”), necromancy (this is something I will have to discuss another time, because there WAS necromancy going on in counseling, regardless of what Duval publicly says!), and all sorts of disgusting satanic practices that Christians should have nothing to do with.”

I will plainly address the “Shining Ones” accusation at this time. Did the subject of Shining Ones come up in sessions with Loren Grace? Yes. Did the subject of Shining Ones come up in sessions with other clients of mine? Yes. It’s true. This happened and continues to happen. I have no need to lie about this. I didn’t fully understand what the term Shining Ones even meant at the outset, and when it came up with multiple clients, it became a subject of conversation among certain survivors within our then strictly internet community.

I didn’t fully understand why the concept of the Shining Ones came up in certain survivors. When I raised the term with certain survivors, it had meaning and resonance, with other it didn’t. This holds true for many concepts I have explored that led to great breakthroughs. As something came up with one person, I would investigate it with another, and sometimes, one revelation could produce a series of breakthroughs. I could go through a long list of subjects that came up during sessions that I didn’t fully understand: I didn’t understand how the powers of darkness were cloning soul parts, I didn’t understand holographic technologies, I didn’t understand how gang-stalking could possibly make sense, and I didn’t understand how time travel could actually be possible. These are just a few examples of topics I have had to wrestle through, some of which have been addressed on my podcast. I was looking for answers, and I was journeying a path to answers with people that I loved, because my heart was to see them set free.

Since I didn’t arrive at a firm understanding of Shining Ones, I never publicly taught on it, and after a few months, stopped discussing it even with those that it had come up with. Before I had turned my attention from the subject, I had concluded that it had something to do with the coming plans of God for me and others, which was only shared with a small group of people to test the words. I also entertained data points that others provided and considered them, since I wasn’t the only one praying into the subject. Frankly, Loren Grace provided quite a few data points to me regarding the subject, which at the time she alleged were told to her by Jesus. When certain people, including Loren, began to take great offence regarding the subject, I stopped engaging in the conversation altogether and moved on to other things. Loren took pieces that I never fully put together, created her own narrative by mixing it with things she journaled on her own as she sought Jesus on the subject, and used it to accuse me of teaching heresy. Her conclusions are not mine, her explanations are not mine, and nowhere have I ever strung together the thoughts she has assembled regarding the Shining Ones and the occult practices this alleged heresy leads to. Yet, this is the centerpiece of her entire case against me.

I ultimately came to understand that there are two sides to the Shining Ones conversation, there is a Luciferian agenda around fallen beings that call themselves Shining Ones. This is the part of the conversation that Loren and Carolyn focus in on in order to make their accusations against me. The problem is that it is a moot point. I agree with their point. Frankly, these fallen Shining Ones even have a planet that a particular survivor visited during their programming and occult use. This was reported to me, and I believe the report. I am not deceived, and I do believe that there is a Luciferian agenda surrounding certain beings that call themselves Shining Ones.

Notwithstanding that point, I believe there is a God side to the conversation, as it is written, “Those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament, and those who turn many to righteousness like the stars forever and ever” (Daniel 12:3). Since those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the firmament according to the written Word of God, God certainly has an agenda for his own Shining Ones. This passage can have different placement depending on one’s eschatology, but my point is that for every satanic counterfeit, there is a Godly thing that has been perverted. I seek to remain balanced, reasonable, and yet continue to be a spiritual pioneer in Christ that secures breakthroughs for the precious and broken people God has connected to me. I don’t have to understand everything that gets brought to my attention. It is an impossible expectation to put on any person. I do not apologize for my fearlessness in pursuing things I don’t fully understand as I endeavor to see the children of God set free: children like Loren Grace and Carolyn Hamlett.

I am not a closet Luciferian.

Messages to Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace

At this time, I am going to read a few messages from those that were directly attacked by Carolyn and Loren, so that their voices can be heard as well.

Dr. Preston Bailey

I am happy to see Daniel making a stand for those who desperately need ministry and have DID. I have been ministering to people with SRA/DID since 1983 and I have seen numerous Christian ministries like Bride Ministries infiltrated by members of Satanic Cults or the Illuminati. It has happened several times in my ministries and many have admitted that it was their job to destroy DID ministries, ministers, and their families.

It is my belief that this attack on Bride Ministries was planned long ago. I have known Daniel for many years and he has always been honest and patient. His patience is demonstrated in that he took a year and a half to respond to these malicious attacks. God has blessed Daniel even while the devil kept attacking him. The slander and lies against him and his ministry are from the devil and not God.

Karolyn Otlewski

I just want to say that these two women have forgotten love, the most important thing about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He always cares for and loves his brothers and sisters no matter what. Carolyn Hamlett and Loren Grace coldly and maliciously allowed the enemy to hurt and destroy deep bonds that God had forged between them and others. They did it without considering the feelings of others. They caused deep pain, grief, and sadness within our survivor community at that time. They wrote lies about multiple people, including myself, and posted these lies from the enemy knowing the truth their hearts. In my case, I was never empowered to speak directly to my accuser.

Carolyn, you refused to talk to me, and this action alone caused me deep pain and sorrow. I was crushed because I know that in my heart and actions towards you I never did anything to hurt you. Despite my intentions and actions, I was accused like a criminal of offences I never committed. I wasn’t given the opportunity to make things right because you refused to speak to me after your accusations were issued. For me, it has been a very long road and I have had to lay my pain in the Lord’s hands time and time again. I shed a ton of tears over this. I still cry today. Carolyn Hamlett, you left a hole in my heart, but I still love you, and I still pray for you.

Darla Guerra

I send greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Several years ago, I felt like I had to defend the Lord in what I thought was right. But He showed me that I was like Peter chopping off people’s ears with my sword. He told me to put away my sword and that He had called us to love people, not defend Him. So now, every-time I see something that is not right, or that I feel is wrong, I am gently reminded that He has called us to love people, in His example. When He saw people doing the wrong things, He didn’t lash out at them, spew hatred or call them names. He spoke in kindness, gentleness and love to show them the truth.  

He also told me not to defend myself, because if I defended myself, then He could not defend me. He told me He wanted me to respond in love and a spirit of reconciliation. Every time someone would come to me and tell me the things that were being said about Bride Ministries, myself and others (although the words hurt me deeply) I chose to respond in love. I blessed you both, Carolyn and Loren Grace, because when I bless you, I say that I want it to be as GOD wants it to be. Love and the spirit of reconciliation is where I stand to this day. I love both of you ladies, I called you friends. I continue to pray for His peace and love in your hearts, above all else.

 

Request to Cease and Desist

While the initial attacks against me began in 2016, the shameful fact is that Carolyn and Loren haven’t stopped in this agenda even through the present time. I let out a sigh when I was informed that they had made comments on their website against the prayer class that we offered at BRIDE Ministries. In a more recent article, they detail that their entire book was written to essentially come against me, but they decided to generalize it since I was not the only one teaching “Luciferian doctrines” according to their opinion. It is one thing to state reasons for parting with an organization or group. It is another thing to continue to attack years later. What they are doing isn’t of God, plain and simple.

For all these things, Carolyn and Loren, I issue a public request for a cease and desist. Please feel free to encourage people to follow Jesus but make your focus on him, not on me and those that you disagree with.

For those that will hear this, I recognize that these broken women are not my enemies nor the enemies of BRIDE Ministries. The Bible says we wrestle not against flesh and blood. In this public address, I have laid out strong evidence to illustrate that they have carried out a programmed agenda to take down BRIDE Ministries because of injustices that have been perpetrated against them. I simply need to expose it and articulate it as part of my responsibility as a leader in the body of Christ. I have provided this response for those that continue to encounter their articles against me and other leaders in the body of Christ. Having said this, it is in your hands as the listener to judge the matter. I leave you with 1 Corinthians 6:2-3.

Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?

I bless those that have listened to this with clarity, wisdom, and discernment. Thank you.


dc

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Sep 8, 2018, 5:59:07 AM9/8/18
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Hi Daniel,

We don't censor here so your post will stand, but let it be clear that those on the other side of the fence are equally welcome to post a response too.
I myself am a spiritual dunce, and you're delving into topics that are way above my pay grade here, so it will likely take me a while to process and discern all this.

What I will say is that I've very briefly studied the works and testimonies of Kurt E Koch, Johanna Michelson, Laura Maxwell and a few others who have all worked and experienced the supernatural and all warn against getting involved in any spiritual/occult activities because it opens doorways to the demonic, using scripture to support this position, while yourself and Dave Eager (Out of the Darkness into the light/Out of the Dark fame) are pushing a counter narrative to this, i.e. that some spiritual activity is OK to get involved with. Perhaps you'd like to address this apparent discrepancy?

sabrina...@redoluxeinteriors.com

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First, let me say there is no such thing as a Christian occultist or a Christian witch.  Those terms are polar opposites.  You may POSE as a Christian, but you are not one.  The Holy Spirit in you will TELL YOU to move away from this evil person or doctrine.  It will not ring true to you if it's of satan.  TD Jakes made the statement that he was the "salesman" and Jesus was the "product".  :-O  Immediately the Holy Spirit in me sounded the sirens.  But, I believe that is exactly what is happening with this Duval guy and his buddy Dave Hayes.

So, the reason I ran into Carolyn and Loren was I was looking into Dave Hayes who calls himself "prayingmedic" on youtube and is pushing this fake QANON.  It is a group of blogger people posing as intel insiders in audience with The President.  They are lying about who they are.  They have lied about predictions, and claims they have made, pictures they have posted. There is deception they have been caught red handed in.  They are leading the Conservative base away from what is really happening and putting these dense people out to pasture where they will do the left no harm.  (Trust Jeff Sessions.  Trust Robert Mueller.  Trust "the plan".)  Worse they are dividing us and milking the Conservatives for boatloads of $$$$$.  So I have asked myself over and over why someone claiming to be a Christian would on purpose push A BIG FAT LIE.  He absolutely knows it's a lie!  Now I have my answer!  He is saddled up with Dan Duval and pushing his very, very occult theology.  Dan is talking about how the people just lovingly surrounded him and the money started flowing in after they left.  THAT IS BECAUSE DAVE HAYES IS TELLING THEM TO AND NOT BECAUSE THERE IS ANYTHING GODLY ABOUT HIM.  The 2 COLLUDERS are raking it in with Brides Ministries and youtube because Hayes' videos are monetized and he is getting sometimes 100,000 views!  This is most assuredly about their brand and MONEY.  Yes, "prayingmedic" has a video claiming "spirit travel" is the same as "astral projection".  But you are not sent to the 3rd Heaven by God.  You are using a technique to transport your body to who knows where and place it under the authority of some spirit?  This is demonic!  It's wickedness in high places.  There is nothing Christian about them.  Just a facade. 

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dc

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Sep 17, 2018, 11:28:05 PM9/17/18
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Yes, I noticed Dan Duval and this prayingmedic character were discussing Qanon in one of his recent shows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKkCeTiFUn8
Alarm bells going off everywhere! Thanks for your input.

AlmaZeyd

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Jul 8, 2024, 2:39:30 PM7/8/24
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You are shadowing someone. She isn’t getting additional tables. If she was to split tips with you her income would by significantly less for the day. Why would anybody train new hires if this was a the case?

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