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john fitzgerald

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Dec 9, 2011, 9:29:03 AM12/9/11
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I hope this link can be opened, please let me know if you can't and
will get it to you somehow.

I think it brings together all the points that have been discussed
this past week or so. The only hope as I see it is for ( as discussed
) every community to buy and sell locally, which in turn would reduce
the profits of the major food chains and hopefully make them less
profitable to run. Carbon footprint would be reduced considerably. If
we can't, or won't then I don't see much hope and there will be blood
on the streets so to speak.
The politician's will do nothing as they are funded by the various
lobby groups of the major corporations. It is particularly interesting
that what we eat has a huge impact on global warming, all explained in
the video. I do think that you will get some benefit from it.
Regards
John F.


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DavidT

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Dec 9, 2011, 9:33:24 AM12/9/11
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Hi John

A password and an e-mail address is required for your link.

David

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Roger Priddle

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Dec 9, 2011, 10:04:03 AM12/9/11
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Hi John -

I can't see the video - dial-up access only - but I absolutely agree with your summary points.  Sounds to me a lot like the principles behind the "Transition Town" concepts.  (I assume you already know about it but if not, look up "Transition Town Totnes" and browse.)

As for voting, I go by the "least worse" principle in picking a candidate to support, but really making a point of "voting with my wallet".  Food, housing, and transportation decisions are  based on spending my money in such a way as to demonstrate my ideals.

Surprise - I don't buy a lot of "stuff" anymore, but my local farmers stand a better chance of surviving and thriving.  And they will be able to continue to farm but still send their kids to school.

Roger.


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DavidT

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Dec 9, 2011, 10:09:14 AM12/9/11
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On 9 Noll 2011, at 15:04, Roger Priddle wrote:

As for voting, I go by the "least worse" principle in picking a candidate to support, but really making a point of "voting with my wallet".  Food, housing, and transportation decisions are  based on spending my money in such a way as to demonstrate my ideals.

Same here. I don't believe in not voting - you're letting someone else decide - and we have a preference system here whereby you can put the candidates in 'least worst' to 'most worst' order. I often give a no. 1 to people I know have no chance, just to give them the thumbs up. My vote carries on down after the no hoper gets eliminated.

Surprise - I don't buy a lot of "stuff" anymore, but my local farmers stand a better chance of surviving and thriving.  And they will be able to continue to farm but still send their kids to school.

Same here.

David

john fitzgerald

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Dec 9, 2011, 10:17:09 AM12/9/11
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Email is john....@gmail.com
Password is scruffy
Hope this helps.....??
John F.

Lila Smith

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Dec 9, 2011, 1:22:38 PM12/9/11
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Look at this guys.

Hi-tech test time in Southern Basin
One of the largest tests for hydrocarbons undertaken in New Zealand kicks
off next week, with a state-of-the-art seismic testing ship heading for the
Great Southern Basin.


The Polarcus Alima has been in New Zealand for several months, conducting
testing for Anadarko off the Taranaki coast, but will leave Wellington
Harbour tomorrow heading for two permits operated by OMV to the southeast of
Dunedin.

In a frontier basin with extreme operating conditions, Austrian OMV has
already spent $50 million on 2D tests and evaluating results.

The more sophisticated 3D testing by the Polarcus Alima will cost OMV and
its partners around US$200,000 (NZ$259,000) a day, or around US$24 million
(NZ$31.2 million) for the 120 days of testing.

OMV New Zealand managing director Peter Zeilinger said there was still too
much uncertainty about the prospects identified in the permits to suggest a
size or chance of success.

Because it was more likely the permits contained gas, only a major discovery
would make drilling worthwhile, but the results so far had warranted the
latest testing.

''Once it is a discovery of gas, you have to be confident to spend
multibillion US dollars.

''That's what we're looking for if it's gas,'' Zeilinger said.

''If it's oil it can be smaller, but for gas, it really needs to be
something where you can liquefy the gas, where you can build the gas
infrastructure. That's huge. But we are not there. ''We haven't found
anything yet.'' Commissioned in 2010, the 92-metre, Bahamas-flagged Polarcus
Alima made history when it travelled to New Zealand from Norway via the
northern passage, passing across the north of Russia and through the Bering
Straits between Russia and Alaska.

It later attracted Greenpeace protests when it docked in Port Taranaki in
October.

Said to be worth US$2 billion, OMV were keen to stress the Polarcus Alima's
environmental credentials, with an advanced double hull to protect against
chemical spills if it hits ice. The ship will carry five marine mammal
observers, four more than required by the Department of Conservation.

Polarcus Alima will arrive in the OMV permit, which is held in partnership
with Shell and two smaller parties, on Tuesday, aiming to carry out seismic
testing on 4000 square kilometres where OMV believes the best prospects lie.

It will drag 12 streamers in its wake, possibly several hundred metres
behind it, firing compressed air at the sea floor, with hundreds of sensors
to measure the vibrations and map the ground beneath the sea floor.


Over the following 18 months OMV will assess that data.

Lila Smith
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Roger Priddle

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Dec 9, 2011, 2:17:06 PM12/9/11
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(Ok, this is really mean <grin>)

"The ship will carry five marine mammal observers, four more than required by the Department of ..."  Right - one's a lookout, one's a harpooner, his apprentice, a flenser, and a cook!  New dietary wonders brought to you by "a partnership with Shell and two smaller parties."

(I SAID it was mean!)

Roger.

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