R.F.I. : Moira Priests & Doctors

[Richard de Souza]

Dear Jose, it is nice to read all your contributions to Moira-net.

 

One in particular got me thinking.  You've often mentioned your father "Motto Dotor" and that he was our family doctor in Moira you say. From Moira, there have been an incredible amount of both priests and doctors. There must be so many stories behind them.

 

In my Atafondem de Sousa family there are no doctors, and only one priest I've discovered (Fr. Pedro Caetano de Sousa) but I do not know anything about him.

My grandpa's mother Visitação was a de Sousa from Povoação, she came from the house known as the 'house of seven priests and seven doctors'! I've only discovered one doctor (José Clemente de Conceição Souza) whose signed a medical book one relation has kept. Anyone know the rest?

 

Here are a few in my "tree" . Please share any stories if you know them, and add any others from Moira too. I think the "doctors" topic was mentioned before, but I couldn't find this in my inbox.. Has anyone got any stories about these medical Moidekkars and religious ones too?

 

Dr. António Caetano Fidelis da Gama Pais (1925-61) - Jose's father

Dr. José Clemente de Conceição e Souza from Povoação

Dr. António Wenceslau Gaudêncio de Souza from Atafondem (Prof. Fanchu's father)

Dr. Brenda Prisca de Souza-Ekman from Atafondem

Dr. Cecil Clifford Anthony de Souza from Povoação

and his parents Dr. Felisberto and Dr. Vithalda Maria de Souza

 

Fr. António Anand da Gama Pais (Moira-net member, Parish Priest in Povorim?)

Fr. Carlos Evaristo da Gama (current Parish Priest in Nachinola?)

Fr. António Filipe da Gama Pais (Jose's uncle)

Fr. Pedro Caetano Consolação de Sousa from Atafondem

Fr. José Paulo Filipe da Conceição Nazaré (1922-97) from Bambordem

Fr. José Paulo Filipe de Nazaré (1858-1903) from Bambordem

Fr. Joaquim Silvestre de Nazaré (1784-1832) from Bambordem

Fr. João Batista Evaristo da Conceição Nazaré (1920-86) from Bambordem

 

Please mention any other priests and doctors from Moira and share any stories...

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[Nazare Silvestre]

Dear Richard
All the Nazare priests were from Atafondem and not Bambordem!Two were my brothers, one was my granduncle and one was my my great gret granduncle. Please correct.Wish you a Happy Christmas. Regards. Silvestre







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[Sr. Margaret Correa]

Dear Richard,
How about nuns?
Sr. Margaret

2008/12/13 Richard de Souza <the.desou...@gmail.com>:

[Richard de Souza]

Updated list:

 

Dr. António Caetano Fidelis da Gama Pais (Jose's father)

Dr. José Clemente de Conceição e Souza from Povoação
Dr. António Wenceslau Gaudêncio de Souza from Atafondem (Prof. Fanchu's father)
Dr. Brenda Prisca de Souza-Ekman from Atafondem
Dr. Cecil Clifford Anthony de Souza from Povoação
and his parents Dr. Felisberto and Dr. Vithalda Maria de Souza

Dr. Lily Monteiro, maternally from Moira.
 
Fr. António Anand da Gama Pais (Moira-net member, Parish Priest in Povorim)
Fr. Carlos Evaristo da Gama (Parish Priest in Nachinola)

Fr. António Filipe da Gama Pais (Jose's uncle)

Fr. Pedro Caetano Consolação de Sousa from Atafondem (Richard's great-granduncle)
Fr. José Paulo Filipe da Conceição Nazaré from Atafondem (Silvestre's brother)
Fr. João Batista Evaristo da Conceição Nazaré  from Atafondem (Silvestre's brother)

Fr. José Paulo Filipe de Nazaré Atafondem (Silvestre's granduncle)
Fr. Joaquim Silvestre de Nazaré from Atafondem (Silvestre's great-great-granduncle)

Filipe Neri António Sebastião do Rosário Ferrão, Archibishop of Goa & Daman, maternally from Moira

Sr. Margaret Correa (Moira-net member, 'Religious of Mary Immaculate', Burkina Faso)

Sr. Agnes Monteiro, maternally from Moira

 

I'm sure the list of priests, nuns and doctors is much greater than this!

 

Richard

[Jose Da Gama Pais]

Hello Richard

 

That is a lot of input from your side.

I hope this can be increased with inputs from other netters.

One suggestion would be ward wise inputs. I remember Augusto had suggested

making a database of Moidekkars and their professions but it did not seem to gain much

momentum.

 

I remember a lot more priests although I do not know their full names

Atafondem:

Fr. Adriao

Fr. Ublado sj

then another priest who was the parish priest of cansaulim. I recollect he even had a fall from the roof of the church. Tony do you recollect his name, your neighbour from atafondem.

then another who was the cousin of Anton also from Atafondem,

 

Fr. Gervasio, Fr. Atanasio, Fr. Arlino, Fr. Tony da silva sj(present provincial of Goa province), Fr. Benjamin Sequeira.

 

I also think there were a few more nuns like Sister Monica and she had some sisters also nuns, then I think Nazar Silva has a sister who is a nun.

Please can any netter give us more inputs on this.

we all could be more familiar.

 

Regarding Doctors, We have Dr. Victor presently residing in Moira,

then of course Dr. Correia who owned the Remanso and his daughter Dr. Alice Correia Gouviea, Dr. Filipe Gouveia (Maternally connected to Moira).

Off Course, Dr. Veloso the senior and his son Vincent and Joaquim.

 

Please other netters do give your inputs.

The above is what I can recollect sitting here in Mombasa.

 

It would be nice to continue this thread.

 

Cheers

JDGP

 

[Tony de Sa]

Fr. Agnelo Mendes, Attafondem
Fr. Venacio Fonseca, Calizor
Fr. Ubaldo Cunha, Attafondem
Late Mgr. Orfino D'Sa, Attafondem
Late Fr. Fidelis D'Sa S.D.B, Attafondem
Sr. Gemma D'Sa, Medical Missionary Sisters, Attafondem
Fr. Mathias D'Cunha SDB, Calizor
Late Fr. Diego D'Sa, Attafondem
Fr. Chrisolgo D'Cunha, Calizor

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[Tony de Sa]

Correction
Fr. Ubaldo Cunha, Calizor

[Jose Da Gama Pais]

Hello Tony

 

Correct.. These are the names, how we cannot recollect. SHAME.. SHAME.. kitem re. matare zataum ami.

Deu Borem Korum.

 

But you did not tell about that priest who was the parish priest of cansaulim.

I cannot recollect his name. His house was in the neighbourhood of Eusebio de sa.

 

Cheers

JDGP

 

[Maria Alice Gouveia]

Email: gouv...@clix.pt WebSite: http://   Hello, Also Dr. Teotónio Correia,Dr Vitorino Correia, Dr. Francisco José Correia, Dr. Francisco Correia Jr (both Dr. Correia's sons),Dr Caetano da Gama Paes,Dr Veloso, just a few at the moment. Fr. António Filipe Paes, Fr José and his brother, both priests. I'll give you some feedbacck later. All the best Alice On Dom Dez 14 17:06 , 'Jose Da Gama Pais' sent:

Office: Fax: Mobile:

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[Tony de Sa]

Late Fr. Albano Fernandes
Also Late Fr. Adrian D'Souza - I think he was Ana Maria Goswami's grand uncle but I may be mistaken both from Attafondem.

[Teotonio R. de Souza]

And how could I forget the two Jesuit provincials from Moirá, both alive and active:

Fr. Edwin (Leny) de Souza (Edgar's uncle)

Fr. Anthony da Silva

2008/12/14 Teotonio R. de Souza <teode...@gmail.com>

Forgot my distant cousin, son of Lino Cunha (Povoação): Rocky Joseph (Abbot of the Norbertines in India) and presently based in Nagpur. Can be contacted at

abtr...@yahoo.co.in
And Fr. Oscar Nazareth also based in Nagpur, a Dominican who brought the Dominican novitiate to Moirá.

2008/12/14 Teotonio R. de Souza <teode...@gmail.com>

Those I have personally known:

 

Fr.Elias de Sousa

Fr. Abel de Sousa

Fr. Adrião de Sousa

Fr. Arsénio de Cunha

Fr. Vincent Ferrer de Sousa

Fr. Antonio Filipe Pais

Fr. Diogo de Sá

Fr. Albano de Sousa

Fr. João Baptista Nazaré

Fr. José Paulo Nazaré

Fr. Luis Caetano de Sousa

Fr. Victor Dias

Fr. Eleutério da Silva

Fr. João Francisco Maciel

Fr. Ubaldo de Sá

Fr. Inácio Dias

Fr. Gervásio Pinto

Fr. Joaquim de Sousa

Fr. Agnelo Mendes

Fr. Venâncio Fonseca

And there was a son  of  the "Sonso" family in Novo Portugal in the MSFS congregation.

 

 

2008/12/14 Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa@gmail.com>

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[Teotonio R. de Souza]

Those I have personally known:

 

Fr.Elias de Sousa

Fr. Abel de Sousa

Fr. Adrião de Sousa

Fr. Arsénio de Cunha

Fr. Vincent Ferrer de Sousa

Fr. Antonio Filipe Pais

Fr. Diogo de Sá

Fr. Albano de Sousa

Fr. João Baptista Nazaré

Fr. José Paulo Nazaré

Fr. Luis Caetano de Sousa

Fr. Victor Dias

Fr. Eleutério da Silva

Fr. João Francisco Maciel

Fr. Ubaldo de Sá

Fr. Inácio Dias

Fr. Gervásio Pinto

Fr. Joaquim de Sousa

Fr. Agnelo Mendes

Fr. Venâncio Fonseca

And there was a son  of  the "Sonso" family in Novo Portugal in the MSFS congregation.

 

 

2008/12/14 Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa@gmail.com>

[Richard de Souza]

Dear all

Thank you for all your contributions, keep them flooding in. Keep trying to remember. When in Goa I shall do some more research.

I am good with detail and data organisation, and have done this with my family tree.  But when it comes to background information -  a story behind an individual, I lack, having less connection not having lived in Goa or met these individuals. So all your memories, stories etc.. will be good, especially for the future generations.

With regards to Jose's suggestion of a database of Moidekkars - I'm more than happy to help and I can start one. But won't be able to give it any real attention until August 2009 after my final exams. It will be a lifetime project, containing data on Moidekkars past and present (i.e. names , dates , places, professions, stories etc..) and I will source where each piece of data was collected from.

 

Richard

2008/12/14 Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa@gmail.com>

http://moirafamily.tribalpages.com/

[Sr. Margaret Correa]

Dear Mora - netters,
There are five nuns besides me in my congregation from Moira.
Sr. Cecilia da Silva from Sataporrio (Nazar's sister)
Sr Gemma Pinto Correia from Sataporrio (Sister of late Miguel Correia)
Sr Elena da Gama from Sataporrio
Sr.Celine Mendes frrom Atafondem ( Fr Agnelo's sister)
Sr Merlyn Velloz from Bambordem.

Love & prayers
Sr. Margaret Correa

2008/12/14 Tony de Sa <tony...@gmail.com>:

[Jose Da Gama Pais]

Yes Tony

 

Fr. Alban how I recollect his voice, of very high pitch, Nice Man.

May he rest in peace.

 

Deu Borem Korum.

 

Jose

 

On 12/14/08, Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa@gmail.com> wrote:

[Teotonio R. de Souza]

Forgot my distant cousin, son of Lino Cunha (Povoação): Rocky Joseph (Abbot of the Norbertines in India) and presently based in Nagpur. Can be contacted at

abtr...@yahoo.co.in
And Fr. Oscar Nazareth also based in Nagpur, a Dominican who brought the Dominican novitiate to Moirá.

2008/12/14 Teotonio R. de Souza <teode...@gmail.com>

Those I have personally known:

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[Nazare Silvestre]

Some more Priests from Moira
Late Fr.Arsenio Cunha Calizor
Late Fr.Claudio Mello Calizor
Late Fr. Mons. Rozario de Melo Calizor
Late Fr.Mons. Manuel de Sa Atafondem
Late Fr. Teodosio Fonseca Atafondem
Late Fr. Eleuterio Silva Sataporio
Late Fr. Conceicao Silva Sataporio
Late Fr.Mons. Lopes Lobo Sataporio
Late Fr.Santana ?  Atafondem
Late Fr.Luis Caetano Souza Pirazona
Late Fr.Abel Souza   Pirazona
Late Fr. Fremiot ? Pirazona

There must be many more. Silvestre









  "Tony de Sa" <tony...@gmail.com> schrieb:

Late Fr. Albano Fernandes
Also Late Fr. Adrian D'Souza - I think he was Ana Maria Goswami's grand uncle but I may be mistaken both from Attafondem.

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[Anand Pais]

 
Dear Richard,
Just a small correction.  Fr. Antonio Filipe de Santana Pais and not Da Gama Pais.
 
Thanks
Fr. Anand
Parish Priest of Holy Family Church, Alto Porvorim

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:55:42 +0000
From: the.desou...@gmail.com
To: moir...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Moira-Net:3196] Re: R.F.I. : Moira Priests & Doctors

[Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami]

Hi Richard,

My paternal granduncle Fr. Adriao de Souza was a parish priest in
Siolim before retiring.

Cheers
Ana Maria

[Edgar D' Souza]

Thank you, Teotonio...

And now... am I rushing in where angels fear to tread...? but I want
to ask a simple question - should we not count you yourself? Whatever
may be the present status, it is nevertheless a fact that you
underwent the full course of training and were ordained and served in
the priesthood, undertaking all the duties, for a long time... (I'm
probably wrong, but wasn't it over 16 years? Please correct me...)

Regards
Ed.

[Theo]

Yes, Edgar,
26 years as Jesuit (as Professed member of the Order) and nearly 16
years as priest.
Let me add three more who escaped my earlier list:
Fr. Crisólogo de Melo was my colleague in the Portuguese primary
school and joined the Salesians.
Fr. Evaristo da Gama was my colleague in the Primary School and the 2
seminaries of Goa.
Fr. Atanasio Lobo, was my prefect and teacher in Rachol Seminary.

On Dec 15, 5:15 am, "Edgar D' Souza" <edgar.b.dso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you, Teotonio...
>
> And now... am I rushing in where angels fear to tread...? but I want
> to ask a simple question - should we not count you yourself? Whatever
> may be the present status, it is nevertheless a fact that you
> underwent the full course of training and were ordained and served in
> the priesthood, undertaking all the duties, for a long time... (I'm
> probably wrong, but wasn't it over 16 years? Please correct me...)
>
> Regards
> Ed.
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Teotonio R. de Souza
>
>
>
> <teodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And how could I forget the two Jesuit provincials from Moirá, both alive and
> > active:
> > Fr. Edwin (Leny) de Souza (Edgar's uncle)
> > Fr. Anthony da Silva
>

> > 2008/12/14 Teotonio R. de Souza <teodeso...@gmail.com>

>
> >> Forgot my distant cousin, son of Lino Cunha (Povoação): Rocky Joseph
> >> (Abbot of the Norbertines in India) and presently based in Nagpur. Can be
> >> contacted at

> >> abtroc...@yahoo.co.in

> >> And Fr. Oscar Nazareth also based in Nagpur, a Dominican who brought the
> >> Dominican novitiate to Moirá.

> >> 2008/12/14 Teotonio R. de Souza <teodeso...@gmail.com>

>
> >>> Those I have personally known:
>
> >>> Fr.Elias de Sousa
> >>> Fr. Abel de Sousa
> >>> Fr. Adrião de Sousa
> >>> Fr. Arsénio de Cunha
> >>> Fr. Vincent Ferrer de Sousa
> >>> Fr. Antonio Filipe Pais
> >>> Fr. Diogo de Sá
> >>> Fr. Albano de Sousa
> >>> Fr. João Baptista Nazaré
> >>> Fr. José Paulo Nazaré
> >>> Fr. Luis Caetano de Sousa
> >>> Fr. Victor Dias
> >>> Fr. Eleutério da Silva
> >>> Fr. João Francisco Maciel
> >>> Fr. Ubaldo de Sá
> >>> Fr. Inácio Dias
> >>> Fr. Gervásio Pinto
> >>> Fr. Joaquim de Sousa
> >>> Fr. Agnelo Mendes
> >>> Fr. Venâncio Fonseca
> >>> And there was a son  of  the "Sonso" family in Novo Portugal in the MSFS

> >>> congregation.- Hide quoted text -
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[Richard de Souza]

Dear Anand,

Thank you for this correction. I will update my family tree too accordingly.

He carried the same name as his paternal grandfather.

If at all possible, could you send me the name of his paternal grandmother, if you know it.

 

Regards,

Richard

2008/12/15 Anand Pais <anan...@hotmail.com>

[Anand Pais]

Dear Richard,
 
The paternal grandmother of Fr. Antonio Filipe, and in fact my great grandmother was ANA MARIA LOBO E PAIS.
She was also from sataporio.
 
Regards 
Anand

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:08:19 +0000
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Subject: [Moira-Net:3224] Re: R.F.I. : Moira Priests & Doctor

2008/12/15 Anand Pais <anan...@hotmail.com>

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[augusto pinto]

Crispino Lobo of Pirazona, formerly of S.J. ?

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40, Novo Portugal,
Moira, Bardez,
Goa, India
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P 0832-2470336
M 9881126350

[Anand Pais]

 
 
Dear All,
 
 
 
I have tried to collate a list of the priests of Moira with the help of my mother and aunt. It is not in the order of the year of their ordination. Many of them have passed away. Some of them are abroad. Many of them have already been mentioned by other MNs. But still, if it interests some.......
 
Pe Diogo Rosario de souza
Pe Caetano Consolacao de Souza
Pe Teodosio Fonseca
Pe Adriao de Souza
Pe Albano Fernandes
Pe Ubaldo de Sa s.j.
Pe Agnelo Mendes
Pe Benjamin de Sa
Pe Manuel de Sa
Pe Orfino de Sa
Pe Bernardino de Sa
Pe Fidelis de Sa cssr
Pr Silvestre Nazare
Pe Jose Paulo Nazare (Seraulim P.P.)
Pe Joao Batista Nazare
Pe Jose Paulo Nazare
Pe Arun de Souza s.j. Bombay
Pe Vicente Soares
Pe Antonio Soares
Pe Venancio Fonseca
Pe Diogo de Sa
Pe Adriao Nazare
Pe Francisco De Sa
Pe Santana Cunha
Pe Arsenio Cunha
Pe Claudio de Melo
Pe Rosario de Melo
Pe Ubaldo Cunha
Pe Matias da Cunha sdb
Pe Balduino da Cunha
Pe Crisologo da Cunha sdb
Pe Gervasio Pinto (former Superior General Of Pilar Fathers)
Pe Arlino De Melo
Pe Conceicao Sales da Silva
Pe Anthony Da Silva s.j.
Pe Evaristo Da Gama
Pe Sebastiao Lopes Lobo
Pe Edgar Nazare s.j.
Pe Sebastiao Nazare
Pe Gabriel
Pe John Cruz s.j.
Pe Antonio Filipe Pais
Pe Antonio Anand da Gama Pais
Pe Joao Francisco Maciel
Pe Edwin de Souza s.j.
Pe Elias de Souza
Pe Fremiot de Souza
Pe Elias de Souza (Felix Caetano)
Pe Oscar Nazareth o.p.
Pe Inacio Dias
Pe Victor Dias
Pe Francis Dias s.j.
Pe Herminio De Souza
Pe Atanasio Lobo
Pe Custodio Lobo
Pe Abel De Souza
Pe Antoninho Abel de Souza
Pe Luis Caetano De Souza
Pe Pedro de Souza
Pe Braz de Souza
Pe Tome de Souza(Clergy Home, Porvorim)
Pe Vernon de Souza s.j.
Pe Norman de Sousa
Pe Benjamine Sequeira
Pe Santana Sequeira
Pe Manuel Nazare
Pe Cruz
Pe Eleuterio da Silva
Pe Belarmino de Souza
Pe Vicente Ferrer de Souza
Pe Luciano de Sa
Pe Gerson de Souza msfs
 
 
 
regards,
Anand

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[Evylyn Pinto-Willis]

On a note of frivolity, Is there anyone who has not not have a nun or priest inthe family in Moira?  Its time for the Occupational Directory to make a resurrection.  That would be interesting as we may find there are a lot of Marine Engineers and doctors and IT Consultants who never lie low. 

 

C'mon folk, lets get the General Directory going.  Will make reading much more exciting.!!

 

Regards

 

EPWPW

[Richard de Souza]

Dear Evylyn

 Every family from Moira does seem to have a nun or priest in ! I've uploaded a file listing priests and nuns from Moira.  It was taken from the directory I've started. I will try and upload all the information I know into it and any information emailed to me will be included and sourced from the email.

 

Richard

2008/12/16 Evylyn Pinto-Willis <evylyn.pi...@googlemail.com>

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[Tony de Sa]

Dear All,

Young Richard must be commended for a very fine piece of work. Not only has he listed out all the priests so far  mentioned on the thread but also the details as gathered from the thread and who all have mentioned the name. Congratulations Richard you might just end up being Moira's Dr. Samuel Peppys.

To view the file, please visit our home page http://groups.google.com/group/moira-net/files?hl=en-GB

[Richard de Souza]

Thank you Tony

God willing I will be able to catalogue something similar to Dr. Pepys's library in my lifetime, even if it's just a section on Moidekar genealogy - then others can add sections on Moira history etc....

 

Richard