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Sorry to ramble on here - but really need your advice and input. Again, I apologize for not contributing as much as I seek advise... but am not as knowledgeable as the other forum members when it comes to the electronic side of things!
I had previously started another thread on a purchase decision for a new Nord Stage 3 (Compact or HP). After ordering the Compact (which the store did not have in stock), I cancelled it due to learning from some online video's that some people had to use a laptop with it when playing live - to load different patches between sets. I also noticed this in their official promo video's (famous songs video on YouTube).
Anyway - I decided to purchase a Roland RD-2000 instead from the same store. I like it due to the keyboard itself, the PC control options (sliders and knobs) the ability to have a combination of 8 internal or external zones). And it also has Rain Link I believe, which is a high resolution midi control (velocity detection more than standard midi spec). Anyway, the only problem is - the internal sounds are not doing it for me! In my opinion, the acoustic pianos sound very artificial in the upper registers in their V-piano's (an opinion which I read on another forum thread a couple of days ago) and the Super Natural electric piano's are OK - but not stellar. For example - it's not Keyscape.
I was going to even try the Kawai digital piano's (because I really like the sound), but then read that the action is very heavy and somewhat sluggish. I have played some of their DP actions in the past, but don't recall what the actions felt like. I did not care for the actions on their software only controllers.
So, this brings me to a decision - I am unable to coax a believable piano from the RD-2000. And find the SN Electric Piano's serviceable at best. Do I keep it due to the ease of integration and control capabilities with a PC and other midi modules and simply use it as a dedicated software controller with backup sounds? Or should I send it back and start over?
I also have Keyscape, Komplete Ultimate 11 and Ivory II, but have yet to really use them. Due to the recent threads here, I have decided to dive into the software end of things also and purchased a late 2015 IMAC (due to it's upgrade options) a couple of weeks ago. I also have a upgrade question on this... so other thread!
I do have a Receptor Trio which was purchased a few years ago, but had problems with it rebooting itself when changing patches. I was told by someone who used to work for them that occurred because it was searching for Komplete updates! So had it reconfigured and have yet to test it. Was not completely sure of using this outside of a studio environment. Due to the company folding, and the advances in PC specs for software since it first came out, there was no reason not to just go MAC!
No... I cancelled the NS3 becuase I read that it may be necessary to use with a laptop live in order to load other sounds (if loading large pianos etc.). So thought that during a gig, this would be inconvenient. I was under the impression that you couldn't just bring the NS3 to a gig and use only whatever you had pre-loaded. So using this with a laptop live could be a necessity, and the load time for Nord's extra large pianos is long from what I understand from online video's like 30 minutes!
The RD-2000 was not so much an impulse purchase as one I was pondering as an alternative. I thought I could use the internal sounds live, and also add a MAC only if I wanted. But the sounds would be there in the MAC, I wouldn't have to transfer them over necessarily. The RD-2000 also has a great keyboard feel as well as being able to control everything at a glance. And having the built in A/D converter and all the controls meant eliminating having to purchase a separate little controller for the knobs and sliders (like the Akai box) and something like a small a Zoom A/D.
But Dan, I've since found that I really dislike the acoustic V-Piano sounds in the mid to upper registers and only find the electric piano's serviceable. I also learned that there are not a lot of other SN categories as in the Roland Jupiter 80.
You absolutely can. That's what it's designed for. You can load up to 2 gigs worth of piano sounds (including EPs, clavs, etc.), 480 mb worth of other sampled instruments, and hundreds of additional organ and synth presets (i.e. sounds that don't use samples, so GB/MB terminology doesn't apply). That's more than most other boards. But Nord goes further by letting you remove factory samples you'd never use and put in different ones instead. But that's not something you'd do in the middle of a gig.
Even the Roland has some downloadable additional sounds (in their Axial library)... and similarly, you can't load them all in at once. (Not nearly as many as Nord offers, but they do offer some.) But you still wouldn't change them out in the middle of a gig.
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Um, not to sound overly critical or anything, but this sounds to me as though it's a good time to cancel any and all deals, then just sit and think for a while. After formulating a solid game plan, go play things. Listen to them. Decide how you like the action and onboard voices. Decide what you want before spending money, not afterwards.
Reviews have their place, but they can also confuse you; a double-edged sword. Reading that a keyboard won't do what you want...after ordering it? Perhaps it would have been more helpful to read that review before ordering.
Hi Anthony. What sort of live gigs will you doing? Playing in a band? In my experience slight nuances of the piano samples that you hear through your studio monitors or headphones are lost when playing live through a PA with loud guitarists and drummers. I'm convinced that the sounds on the RD2000 will be excellent for live use.
I think this is your actual sticking point. If you have a Jupiter-80 of which you approve, you clearly need to find a weighted controller that feels right to YOU for piano duties. I doesn't sound as if any one keyboard has covered both arenas for you so far. Unfortunately, that can be hard to manage when serious instruments can rarely be demo'd outside large cities. You almost always have to modify velocity curves to suit your hands/ears as well, so its the overall feel PLUS that vital aspect. With Keyscape and Ivory in-hand, you should zero in on the best piano/controller that allows you to customize what they offer. There's not much of anything one could objectively call "better" in piano software, so sleep on it and research the options for a while longer. The RD-2000 is a fine beast, but only you can know when you find The One.
Hello Guy's - thanks for your responses. Yes Konoboy, I'd like to play in a band again. I haven't since 2000, when most setup's were all hardware. I did weddings and social functions for about 20 years from 1985.
I recently recovered from bone fusion surgery of the DIP joint in the pinky finger of my left hand due to a Mallet Finger injury. I had the 2nd (successful bone fusion) surgery about 3 months ago. I posted some pictures of the injury last year. In all, I could not play using that finger for about 18 months. So couldn't play correctly at all, since that finger is needed as much as the others.
To answer your question about what type of playing situation I'd like - I would just like to play with people who care about getting the sound right and of course are successful financially in their bookings etc. I've seen situations like Dan's (That '80s Band) and Babadoshe's (sic?) Chaka Khan video with his Wedding/cover band and was absolutely floored. Also, I saw a non-profit band that donates all of their proceeds to charity that are fantastic - The Lexington Lab Band - www.lexingtonlabband.com . These are the type of situations that appeal to me. I guess the tie in between them all is that they really care about how they all sound. In the case of the latter - they really take it to the extreme across several bands. So, in other words, a Tribute band without exact sounding vocals but perfect musically.
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