ownership?

[dormando]

Yo,

I feel really bad about not managing to get succession for official
releases of MogileFS. There do seem to be some users left, and Eric is
still submitting patches :)

From looking at my e-mail archives it looks like a few times we had people
step up, catch up a bit, and then get busy and disappear.

Eric won't use github/etc. It's been like ten years since I ran a MogileFS
cluster myself, at this point.

What are some good options here? I can hand the repo and perl release
creds to someone. Or Eric, if you're up to it, we can kill off github and
repoint it to something you control directly. You'd still need to use
CPAN for releases but that's pretty much automated through tooling.

I definitely don't have enough spare energy to catch up on and validate
all the patches that stacked up. I'm really sorry :( Just want to ping
this last time to see if we can get HEAD pointed somewhere productive. I
really enjoyed working on this project and miss it sometimes.

have fun,
-Dormando

[okwap]

Eric is the best candidate to hand over as as the main maintainer in my opinion.

I feel free to any development process he preferred. We can still submit patches, accept PR here, and release a new version in CPAN as usual.

On the other hand, other heavy users or I can take over other messes on GitHub. We can mirror repos, new versions on GitHub. We also can maintain documents and websites on Github.

Any ideas?

[Hung-Yi Chen]

I agree with Peter. I am a heavy mogilefs user (~100 nodes) since 2013. I can co-work with Peter to take over the maintainer of the GitHub repos.

okwap <peter...@gmail.com>於 2020年9月20日 週日，下午4:55寫道：

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[Eric Wong]

dormando <dorm...@rydia.net> wrote:
> Yo,
>
> I feel really bad about not managing to get succession for official
> releases of MogileFS. There do seem to be some users left, and Eric is
> still submitting patches :)

Heh, yes; I still deal with single machine instances on SQLite
that might run indefinitely; but they're not going seeing
new data with COVID-19 still going on...

I still check mail here and deal with patches/code sometimes.

> From looking at my e-mail archives it looks like a few times we had people
> step up, catch up a bit, and then get busy and disappear.
>
> Eric won't use github/etc. It's been like ten years since I ran a MogileFS
> cluster myself, at this point.

Right, nothing can convince me to deal with their
terms-of-service or JS CAPTCHA.

I haven't touched a multi-machine or non-SQLite cluster in
several years, either.

> What are some good options here? I can hand the repo and perl release
> creds to someone. Or Eric, if you're up to it, we can kill off github and
> repoint it to something you control directly. You'd still need to use
> CPAN for releases but that's pretty much automated through tooling.

I still haven't gotten around to publishing anything on CPAN,
yet, so I still have no experience on that front (but I could be
convinced to RTFM, maybe...).

Does Ask still run MogileFS? Maybe he's a better candidate than
me to deal with the CPAN part.

> I definitely don't have enough spare energy to catch up on and validate
> all the patches that stacked up. I'm really sorry :( Just want to ping
> this last time to see if we can get HEAD pointed somewhere productive. I
> really enjoyed working on this project and miss it sometimes.

Yeah, AFAIK there's nothing quite like it, but also few
potential users left.

Fun times, but smaller instances can be replaced by single btrfs
raid1c[34] machine these days with modern HDD sizes.

And I guess Ceph and Gluster have the "enterprise" backing for
people who need multiple machines.

[dormando]

Hey,

> > What are some good options here? I can hand the repo and perl release
> > creds to someone. Or Eric, if you're up to it, we can kill off github and
> > repoint it to something you control directly. You'd still need to use
> > CPAN for releases but that's pretty much automated through tooling.
>
> I still haven't gotten around to publishing anything on CPAN,
> yet, so I still have no experience on that front (but I could be
> convinced to RTFM, maybe...).

It's not that bad :)

> Does Ask still run MogileFS? Maybe he's a better candidate than
> me to deal with the CPAN part.

Not that I know of :/

> > I definitely don't have enough spare energy to catch up on and validate
> > all the patches that stacked up. I'm really sorry :( Just want to ping
> > this last time to see if we can get HEAD pointed somewhere productive. I
> > really enjoyed working on this project and miss it sometimes.
>
> Yeah, AFAIK there's nothing quite like it, but also few
> potential users left.
>
> Fun times, but smaller instances can be replaced by single btrfs
> raid1c[34] machine these days with modern HDD sizes.
>
> And I guess Ceph and Gluster have the "enterprise" backing for
> people who need multiple machines.

Basically yeah. Though outside of your world, I'd say almost everyone just
uses cloud bucket storage from somewhere.

So I think I'll do this:

1) I'll give the github maint to okswap/etc. Can you folks e-mail me
privately with any details I'll need?

2) Eric is free to do nothing, or set up his own github endpoint and
review/merge patches into it. Peter/etc can then mirror onto github. Eric
(or anyone, really) can cut CPAN releases.

If nothing happens, nothing happens, but it's worth a try.

-Dormando

[okwap]

Hi Dormando,

I have sent you a mail.

[Eric Wong]

dormando <dorm...@rydia.net> wrote:
> 2) Eric is free to do nothing, or set up his own github endpoint and

^^^^^^
I assume you meant you mean just "git" (w/o the "hub").
But yeah, I'm pretty burned out atm so I'm not inclined
to do much for now...

> review/merge patches into it. Peter/etc can then mirror onto github. Eric
> (or anyone, really) can cut CPAN releases.

Peter can handle the CPAN stuff, but I can check here in
once in a while (or be Cc:-ed) if anything requires my
attention, but I doubt it...

[dormando]

> dormando <dorm...@rydia.net> wrote:
> > 2) Eric is free to do nothing, or set up his own github endpoint and
> ^^^^^^
> I assume you meant you mean just "git" (w/o the "hub").
> But yeah, I'm pretty burned out atm so I'm not inclined
> to do much for now...

Yeahhh. please excuse the typo. I probably tried to type gitweb or
whatever that old thing was. Sorry to hear about your burnout :( I'm
pretty burned in general too, whoo.

> > review/merge patches into it. Peter/etc can then mirror onto github. Eric
> > (or anyone, really) can cut CPAN releases.
>
> Peter can handle the CPAN stuff, but I can check here in
> once in a while (or be Cc:-ed) if anything requires my
> attention, but I doubt it...

Alright. It is what it is. I'll get the github stuff figured out for them
soon.

[Barry Abrahamson]

Hi Dormando,

Not sure if any help is still needed here, but Automattic (WordPress.com, Tumblr, etc) is still an active MogileFS user and would love to help out in some way.  Please let us know what, if anything,  we can do to help keep things running smoothly.