Virtual reality
sekhar
and dimensions. Knowledge requires a platform to operate, which called
language. As a beginning, will it not be easy to explore what we speak
and write? How do we acquire linguistic skills? Is not the word an
abstract entity all by itself? Finally, are we using the word or used
by it?
To think of thinking is the need of the day, but do we know what
thinking is or do away by the process itself? Word is a window to its
knowledge and feelings generated. The teacher and taught, without two
elements there is neither education nor the world we visualize. The
same gap is from word to real, since the word apple is not real, so
the gap is the problem. To solve this problem are we not creating
innumerable problems? Simply we say that the problem lies in ones own
perception, alternatively the world we experience.
Do we aware of the functioning of linguistic patterns or just carried
away by presumptions and assumptions, which are part of linguistic
ideology? It is surprising to note that all philosophical statements
are logical derivations. Logic based on two, one is constant and the
other is variable. Out of these we derive, the third, which is a name,
imposed on real. Name – its image – feeling – idea, the steps we call
functioning of language. Linguistic operation is three dimensional in
its volume, directional, and dynamic in its character. Is it not the
whole of the intellect, which we carry all the time with different
names, such as mind, heart, consciousness, inner world etc?
Knowledge is the outcome of interactive principle which is result
oriented in its conceptual form. Therefore, concept drives humans to
its result. However voluminous in its stature and predictive in its
character still it is partial and indirect by its nature. The
relational arrangement between nouns – verb – tense is the relational
attitude between subject and object. This relation may be rational or
irrational. Opposites ingrained in language, so pessimism verses
optimism, order – disorder, theism – atheism, and so on rooted in
language but not anywhere in nature. Essentially languages constructed
for memorizing past events and experiences so to refine them in
present. Even the refined state of consciousness is inadequate to meet
the present. Therefore, there is continuous strife for better
knowledge in the world in which we live. By its very inception,
knowledge is divisive phenomena hence can offer division only. It is
the witness to its own activity, which is the reason of its expansion.
These are the grounding factors for conceivable reality and
experience. Memory is past and functioning in present and projects the
future project.
It is clear that the trio KNOWER – KNOWN – KNOWLEDGE is all past and
time bound. If there is no transformation to intelligence, this
knowledge remains a mere tin. Formulas require explanation.
Explanation may be in the shape of a song, dance, and drama but there
is every chance of deriving mythical ideology, so to save from this
kind of diversions, there is philosophical enquiry. Enquiry is full of
logic, which is based on mathematics, when not used in conjunction of
subject, express disastrous and conflicting statement
Knowledge is a cluster of statements. Essence of accumulated knowledge
is called as intuition, which instigate, HOW? Word as is an image and
its produced image is mounted upon primary image. Two lifeless images
are interacting because of sound.
The whole of thought process depends on calculation. Movement of
thought is calculation, but only factual but not real. Natural
intelligence is covered by accrued intellect like fire is covered by
smoke, mirror is covered by dust, but smoke is taken for granted as
fire. Since there is no clear distinction between factuality and
reality, all suffocated ideas are expressed as real. Ignorance verses
intelligence, these two opposites are responsible for tons of
literature. Phenomenal approach to language may solve problems since
it deals with what we see, hear, feel etc in contrast to what may be
real and true about the world we feel and live.
We have to bear in mind that we are exploring virtual world, otherwise
known as linguistic knowledge, which has a fraction of relation with
the real. This relation is only with image, which we get out of sound.
Sound and touch are the basic ingredients to formulate a picture. Our
so-called mind is nothing but the analysis of these pictures. Here we
are not going to propose any new idea or concept but investigating the
gifted knowledge from our ancestors and trying to find out its
relative strength, which we inherit as a language. So let us begin
with our own mother tongue, which we learn in the form of a song,
story, an epic, or sayings, which stand as a translator throughout the
rest of our lives. We call this translator as mind, heart, etc. We
live in a pluralistic world which in fact is not real but a virtual
one, which is also called MAYA (Sanskrit).
Belief plays a vital role in our lives, without which, we cannot even
imagine. Thus, derived imagination is the stepping-stone for entire
human activity. Language is not as simple as it appears to be.
Arranged relation between sound and symbol and their picture is
thought and its provocation, now the question is whether it would be
possible to examine this invisible provocation? If with what?
Relation with a mirror is the same with a language. Whatever formulae,
theories, explanations, and concepts thus derived are only limited to
those images which help our movement both inside and outside.
Habituated to live in a conceptual environment, without which we feel
homeless. Yet we talk of mukthi, moksha, freedom etc. This we may call
self-deception. Education through a language advocated since eons.
Veda (Sanskrit) means to know and this functions over two, one is
(memory) smrithi and the other is sruthi (order of sound) but both are
invisible. Therefore, there are different names for the outcome of
combinations and permutations. Unfortunately, we hang on to these
names. All invisible feelings are generated in-between two images, one
is of self and the other is of the object, and the activity continues
forever until there is true enquiry. Then only knowledge acquired can
function in a sane order.
KUMARILA BHATTU (Vedic exponent) said that words convey their own
meanings, not related to something else. Descriptive sentences are
significant. Sentence meaning as composed of separate word meanings
held together in a relational structure. Word meaning formed is the
simplest unit of sense. Persons thus learn the meaning of words by
seeing others talking as well as from advice of elders.
MANDAN MISRA said that phenomenal distinctions are unreal and
appearance of immutable word essence.
K LANGER said that language is only means of articulating thought.
Essential act of thought is symbolization. World of humans made of
symbol and its meaning.
PRABHAKARA said that all knowledge is verbal which is inferential in
its character.
HUXLEY said that we sin by attributing concrete significance to
meaningless pseudo knowledge as real understanding. We are amphibians
living simultaneously in the world of experience and the world of
notions.
SANKHYA PHILOSOPHY explains that the language is the base of
intellectual games we play with ourselves. It is responsible for the
division of SEER – SEEN which is an egocentric ideology. This virtual
reality is the cause and its effect of illusion.
PATANJALI YOGA describes that two different feelings like pain and
pleasure never occur simultaneously. Inference we derive out of a
paragraph is only feeling.
POORVA MEEMAMSA said every symbol is a picture and its experience is
SEER. Entire linguistic pattern is only indicative. So the index and
indicated are images. Combinations of several meanings of words are
the meaning of a paragraph.
GOUDAPADA (mandookya karikalu) explained that cause and its effect are
interdependent and prone to change.
SANKARA Acharya said that group of symbols is a word and expression of
these words is creation. However, mature logical ideology may be still
it is partial and different from the real. Negation of all
psychological impressions is to be wise.
PANINI (Creator of Sanskrit grammar) warned to check phonetics to
understand the cause of difference in time. Sound is traveling in the
human body in the shape of symbol. Totality of A to Z is self and its
practices.
JIDDU KRISHNA MURTHY said that word is not the real thing.
NAGARJUNA said that the experience and reason do not give us genuine
knowledge.
RAMANUJA said that we could not prove the existence of an object
without attributing, even in case of self-consciousness and in the
object of intuition.
WITTGENSTIEN Main source of our failure to understand is that we do
not command a clear view of the use of our words.
VIDYARANYA (panchadasi) Because of verbal sounds we get pictures of
existing objects and a doubt. This happens even when there is no
object.
What we are destroying is the house of cards and clearing the ground
on which they stand. Philosophy does not result in propositions, but
rather in clarifying them. The end of language is the end of human
world.
Sekhar
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sekhar
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Subject: [MoFPP: 219] Virtual reality
Let us examine knowledge and its functions as well as its capacities
and dimensions. Knowledge requires a platform to operate, which called
language.
And, from my perspective, this examination also requires a more precise
understanding of precisely what a "frame of reference" and an "observer" is.
And, in Western physics, there has been an evolution or progression in the
definition of precisely what is an "observer".
As a beginning, will it not be easy to explore what we speak
and write?
If this is where we begin our "exploration", it is already *far* too late to
resolve the problem of duality.
How do we acquire linguistic skills? Is not the word an
abstract entity all by itself?
But, before we look at word, we must first observe and understand the
consciousness which employs word in the conveying of meaning, considering
what is the origin of that consciousness; which is a dualistic consciousness
Finally, are we using the word or used by it? To think of thinking is the
need of the day,
From my perspective, the *last* thing this civilization needs is more
'thinking' about 'thinking'.
Philosophers and scientists have been 'thinking' about 'thinking' for
thousands of years and have not yet come to an unambiguous understanding of
what consciousness is. And, in the process, they have discovered scientific
theories, establishing the basis of technologies, resulting in the creation
of weapons which, if put to use, will annihilate human civilization itself.
Meanwhile, religious 'authorities'/theologians have also been 'thinking'
about 'thinking' for many thousands of years; 'thinking' that anyone who
'thinks' differently than they do are 'possessed by devils', 'heretics',
'infidels', etc.; and, thus, deserve to be tortured to death or simply
exterminated; thus providing the 'needed' *motivation* for the use of the
weapons which have been created as a result of the scientific theories and
technologies of the 'thinker' scientists and engineers.
Thus, the "need of the day" is not *more*'thinking' about 'thinking'; but,
rather, observing the fundamental structure of thought itself: that thought
results in duality, division, conflict and violence; whether it is
philosophical thought, scientific thought or religious thought.
Thus, from my perspective, the "need of the day" is to come to an
understanding of that consciousness which is prior to and beyond the
consciousness of the 'thinker', which serves the self-centered, narcissistic
interests of the consciousness of the "self", which is the origin of
duality, division, conflict and violence; something that is referred to in
Genesis as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil'; that is a 'fallen'
consciousness which is an inversion of the consciousness Created 'by and in
the image of God' (Genesis 1:27).
Michael Cecil
sekhar goteti
Dear Mr michael
This voluminous language (knowledge) is only a mark but not the thing in actual.This awareness is enough to have clear perception.
thank you
sekhar
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sekhar
Rajasekhar Goteti
| Dear Sir What is to be examined is this.What has to be investigated is this. For the means of knowledge to operate, it requires the notion of a doer, and the notion of a doer is the result of superimposition on the unattached brain. In other words, as soon as one falsely identifies the self as a mind, i.e. an agent, or doer, then all fields that operate are in the field of ignorance. Science, means of knowledge etc, since they require a distinct doer, are therefore bound in the field of ignorance. Simply to say that the instinctive behavior of humans in the empirical field is due to a series of misconceptions due to non-discrimination between the subject and the non-subject, and that humans share this behavior with the rest of the animal kingdom. Now humans, apart from their faculty of discrimination, must be different somehow, and therefore not subject to ignorance? In his brief introduction, sankara tells us the reason we cannot attain enlightenment. It is because it is in our nature to mix up the real and not real and therefore perceive a world of duality with multiple knower/doers/subjects and things to be known/done/objects. In particular, we falsely confuse the eternal Truth that is our innermost self and is The Witness with no role in empirical life, to be acting as an agent. This confusion is innate to us, and is a matter of common experience requiring no proof. It is beginning less and endless in the sphere of the empirical universe. This confusion or superimposition is the basic ignorance that results in this world of duality. The world of duality fashioned by ignorance is termed to be illusion, as it can only be perceived once this basic superimposition has occurred. And all activities include the secular and scientific fall into the field of ignorance as they must presuppose a distinct doer. The purpose of the philosophy texts is to point out this ignorance as essentially the nature of a false mental notion, and remove all misconceptions, to reveal the nature of Truth. A thorough understanding of imposition is required as a first step, therefore, is vital to understand the texts of philosophy and Wittgenstein in particular. It is for this reason that this text is held in such high regard, and deserves to be studied by all serious students of philosophy. Verbatim is super imposed over real for certainty. Thank you sekhar sekhar --- On Mon, 2/11/09, mec...@sbcglobal.net <mec...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Dear Sir >What is to be examined is this.What has to be investigated is this. |
>For the means of knowledge to operate, it requires the notion of a doer, and the notion of a doer is the result of superimposition on the unattached >brain. In other words, as soon as one falsely identifies the self as a mind, i.e. an agent, or doer, then all fields that operate are in the field of >ignorance. Science, means of knowledge etc, since they require a distinct doer, are therefore bound in the field of ignorance. |
Precisely. <snip> |
>In his brief introduction, sankara tells us the reason we cannot attain enlightenment. |
This implies a "doer"; someone who "attains" something called "enlightenment". To suggest that there is something to be attained at all is to reinforce the illusion of the "doer". |
>It is because it is in our nature to mix up the real and not real and therefore perceive a world of duality with multiple knower/doers/subjects and >things to be known/done/objects. In particular, we falsely confuse the eternal Truth that is our innermost self |
Any "self", innermost or not, is a consequence of the 'movement' of self-reflection; which, instantaneously, creates the "self"/"not self", or the "innermost self"/"outermost self". This is the origin of the dualities that are propagated by thought (ignorance, illusion). |
> and is The Witness with no role in empirical life, to be acting as an agent. This confusion is innate to us, and is a matter of common experience >requiring no proof. It is beginning less and endless in the sphere of the empirical universe. This confusion or superimposition is the basic >ignorance that results in this world of duality. |
Self-reflection is not precisely ignorance; ignorance--i.e., thought--is a consequence of or follows self-reflection. |
>The world of duality fashioned by ignorance is termed to be illusion, as it can only be perceived once this basic superimposition has occurred. >And all activities include the secular and scientific fall into the field of ignorance as they must presuppose a distinct doer. |
Agreed. |
>The purpose of the philosophy texts is to point out this ignorance as essentially the nature of a false mental notion, and remove all >misconceptions, to reveal the nature of Truth. |
To term this "Truth" is merely to set up the duality and the dialectic of Truth/Falsehood. This, too, merely preserves and intensifies the fundamental duality. |
>A thorough understanding of imposition is required as a first step, therefore, is vital to understand the texts of philosophy and Wittgenstein in >particular. It is for this reason that this text is held in such high regard, and deserves to be studied by all serious students of philosophy. |
Do we have that much time left? Seriously. What is required is for more and more people to be able to stand outside of the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' and to observe that it is that consciousness which is the origin of duality, division, conflict and violence |
>Verbatim is super imposed over real for certainty. |
Don't really know what this means. >Thank you >Sekhar Michael Cecil
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