Who wrote these docs?

[Gary Niederhelman]

Looking at the documents for mod_cfml

Downloaded the mod_cfml.so for MAC OS

Followed directions for TomCat Valve on Linux

What the hell are we supposed to do with mod_cfml.so?????   How do you make this thing work????

Why wasn't this functionality build into Lucee??

https://viviotech.github.io/mod_cfml/install-valve-lin.html

[Jordan Michaels]

Hi Gary,

You can think of Apache .so files like "plugins" for Apache, and Apache has a LOT of plugins. mod_proxy, mod_rewrite, mod_security are some very popular ones that you see everywhere. Once you've compiled mod_cfml.so for your MAC, you just put it in the Apache modules directory - [Apache Home]/modules/.

For your situation, I'd recommend reviewing the Windows documentation, as it gives you more of a step-by-step and includes screenshots:
https://viviotech.github.io/mod_cfml/install-win-apache.html

Essentially, Lucee is just a Java servlet. This functionality wasn't built into Lucee because it's out of scope for a servlet. However, other projects, like mod_cfml and the Lucee Installer, are built around that servlet and give you additional functionality. In fact, the Lucee Installer may be more of what you're looking for. The Lucee Installer provides you with a fully functional tomcat/lucee install with mod_cfml configured out of the box. Maybe that's the kind of "Built into Lucee" thing you're referring to.

The Lucee download site only displays the latest release of the Lucee build, and installers are (generally) only made when the Lucee team asks Vivio to build them. If you can't find a Lucee installer on the Lucee site, Vivio keeps an archive of installers here: http://lucee.viviotech.net/

Just run one of those on a modern Windows/CentOS/Ubuntu machine and it will give you a fully functional Lucee install.

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Vivio Technologies

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[Zac Spitzer]

as I have replied over at dev.lucee.org, please take time to read the documentation, you clearly haven't.

https://dev.lucee.org/t/cfml-not-rendering-in-new-lucee-install/6830/10?u=zac_spitzer

If you can't be respectful, such posts will be deleted, as has already happened on dev.lucee.org. 

Please be respectful of others

[Jordan Michaels]

100% agree with Zac on this.

Understand that you're asking for free help for free software from people who have donated their time to this project. No one is forcing you to use Lucee or mod_cfml - you're choosing to do that, and we don't owe you anything. In general, we like helping folks - hat's why we're here - but there is absolutely no excuse to be rude about it. Stay calm, stay controlled, stay respectful, and this great community will help you. =)

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Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies

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[Gary Niederhelman]

Why would I need to 'complie it for my MAC'?  Why does it not come pre-compiled, ready to use?  Why involve yet ANOTHER piece of software/tool that is likely NOT included in OSX to do a job that should already be done?  And why isn't instructions/explanation needed for the compilation included in the mod_CFML documentation?  And if I do have to do the work, what tool(s) do I need to compile the .so?

Why would anyone who's looking for information re: mod_cfml on LINUX (MAC OSX) root through documentation that's labeled 'WINDOWS' -- right out of the gate that title says it 'doesn't apply to "me" (with me being any person trying to use this tool and who's not using Windows)

Why isn't the LUCEE site set up with clear communication that there are:

1.  Additional tools needed that require configuration by hand

2.  That there are downloads that already include that functionality -- and people should by default use those instead of spending hours, days, weeks trying to find solutions to problems that are already solved with those?  

Thanks,

Gary

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[Gary Niederhelman]

Follow up:

Spent another hour on this today.  First, I verified that we installed Lucee per the instructions for MAC OS here:  https://docs.lucee.org/guides/installing-lucee/osx/installing-tomcat-and-lucee-on-os-x-using-the-lucee-war-file.html   -  please note on those instructions mod_cfml is a 'nice to have' --- NOT a requirement.

That aside,  following the instruction here:  https://viviotech.github.io/mod_cfml/docs-modcfml.html  -  copying the mod_cfml.so file into a newly created directory named 'modules' in the apache2 folder, then updating httpd.conf --- Apache/Tomcat fail to start on reboot.

On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 1:42:43 PM UTC-4, Jordan Michaels wrote:

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