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Greg Skinner

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Mar 2, 1986, 3:40:47 PM3/2/86
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Today's Topics:

Octobre
Children in Adult Jails

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Date: 22 Feb 86 22:08:00 PST
From: "ROSSI J.A." <ro...@nusc.ARPA>
Subject: Octobre
Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." <ro...@nusc.ARPA>


In actuality, the French band Octobre, is really a Quebec band. In the
mid to late 70's, the4 band was quite popular throughout Quebec and they
made substantial inroads to other markets. Like most good Quebequois rock
acts, they fell prey to the local idology that all good is French. This
was probably the only mistaker the band made, since they did appeal to the
English speaking public. I believe that their final demise came soon after
their live appearance at the St. John Baptiste festival in Montreal in 1976.
Since this was the highpoint of the new 'FRENCH' government in Quebec, too
much political emphasis was placed on the band's worth. At the same time,
other bands with promise (Harmonium being the easiest to recall) also
started to flounder. Contemporary acts which were English based, and not
nearly as good (e.g., Mahogany Rush) did well as they defied the French
influence. Annette Workman is probably the only top performer of that
period to go on to go from French to English and then back to French
(now apparently doing jean comercials on CTV).
Sorry, to go through this as a history lesson, but I still live in that
musical period. If Tom Waits (who is one of my favorite performers, by the way)can have his period, I can have mine.

John

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Date: Sun, 23 Feb 86 20:58:37 EST
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Children in Adult Jails

Really-Really-From: Jim Hofmann

I thought I sent a review of their last and first album to lhounds ...
I'll dig up a copy before I trash my copy --- what I noticed was that
the cover is a still from Brazil (when he is in the police van behind
a wired fence) and inside is the still where his mother was having her
face pulled (there is one song called lady with the elastic face - i think) ...
there is also a song about a guy named Sam Miami (sort of like Sam
Langley?) ... I'll tack on the review here:


Subject: I'm dying in a house of weenies (it's the nitrate maaaan)
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Children In Adult Jails (Buy Our Records)

"Man Caught In Waffle Iron"

So after hearing these guys on N.J.'s Got It? comp - I was expecting
more of what I had termed Northeastern Industrial Tex & The Horseheads
only to have my egomaniac and stupid assumptions gummed up and smeared
back on my face like play makeup or sumpin. So like I was saying,
but not really, I was laying on my sofabed ruminating about how much
Sam Miami sounded like X in their Desperate stage and was getting all
excited about this new band to carry on where X left off and ...
like I wuz thinking, these guys went ahead and stole that riff from
Trucking and stuck it in this song called Displacement Blues which
rags on the parochialism of the NY Band scene so like maybe these
are the true post-punk reincarnations of the dead ... what I really
was thinking these guys are came to bear on the first cut of
side two complete with mixmasters and cartoon sound effects and I
thought like this is the recording that could bring a smile onto
the face of the as of late solemn Butthole Surfers when and if
they'd ever get a chance to hear this before they prematurely die
or sumpin ... so like, I was REALLY thinking that here be the
noize band of the 80's who would crystalize everything Frith was
trying to do on those Japanese recordings with songs about lizards
and houses of weenies (which goes quite well with the sound turned
down on that Madonna video - Material Girl) ... NO KIDDING - these
guys can funk out like no posthardcore types ever, maaaann - with their
very own cover of Brickhouse (incidentally co-penned by our favorite
father-figure/pepsi drinker/live-aider Lionel Richie - and i betcha
you thought you'd never see HIS name on one of yer LP's huh?).

IT was at this point, when the needle left the groove and returned
itself back to point zero - normalcy that I said fuggit and went to
go find my rounded scissors, construction paper and rubber cement
to have some real fun instead of this phoney, asinine, pseudointellectual
bullshit search for a label and/or explanation for Children in
Adult Jails while replaying this 12" (grind, grind)

Oh fershure excellent bordering on professional production job by
Sblendorio and CIAJ on this lump of vinyl (and lyric sheet) - manages to
keep in the weirdness without muddying up the mix 'n message.
And I'd sure like to find out the answer to 18 ACROSS sometime, Diane.
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"The mind industry can take on anything, digest it, reproduce it,
and pour it out. Whatever our minds can conceive of is grist to
its mill; nothing will leave it unadulterated: it is capable of
turning any idea into a slogan and any work of the imagination
into a hit.. . .The mind industry's main business and concern is
not to sell its product: it is to 'sell' the existing order, to
perpetuate the prevailing pattern of man's domination by man, no
matter who runs the society, and by what means. Its main task is
to expand and train our consciousness--in order to exploit it."

--hans magnus enzensberger
"the industrialization of the mind"
1962

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--
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
{decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds
g...@eddie.mit.edu

Greg Skinner

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Love-Hounds Digest Wednesday, March 5, 1986, 03:27

Today's Topics:

Love and Rockets / Tones on Tail
Tones on Tail music
Bauhaus/ToT/Love and Rockets (also Math Bats)
Iggy and the Stooges
The Singing Fish
Re: Love-Hounds Digest
(Very) Obscure groups question
Re: Flamming Lipps

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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 86 11:52 PST
From: ROBB LEATHERWOOD <ROBB-LEATHERWOOD%LA...@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject: Love and Rockets / Tones on Tail
Randomness: This fortune soaks up 47 times its own weight in excess memory.

Love and Rockets just released "Seventh Dream of Teenage Heaven" on another
label (possibly domestic) and the new release contains the U.S. remix of
"Ball of Confusion" on it, though no songs were removed for it to be there.
If you already have the album, apparently there is another version of the
12" single of "Ball of Confusion" that has the US Re-mix on it. The order
number for it, from Beggars Banquet records, is BEG 132 TP. The 12" single
without the remix is BEG 132 T. The B-Side to the "If There's a Heaven
Above" single is called "God and Mr. Smith", if the sleeve that came with
my Bauhaus 1979-1983 record is correct.

About Tones on Tail, their first album (the compilation of their first 3
EPs) is called (surprise, surprise) "Tones on Tail." There are 3 songs on
"Pop" that aren't on "The Album Pop", and vice-versa. The 3 songs that
are not on "Pop" are available on EPs. The reverse is not true. Still,
it's cheaper to buy the album of "The Album Pop" that it is to buy the
2 EPs, unless you can find the 7" singles. However, if you are a fan
of novelty items, as I am, you may want to buy the 12" singles, as I know
that the 12" of Christian Says is on blue vinyl. I suspect that the 12"
of Lions is on red vinyl. But, if you're on a budget, and you want all of
Tones on Tail's songs at the lowest price, here's what to get:

Tones on Tail - Situation Two records - SITU 12
'Pop' - Beggars Banquet - BEGA 51
The Album Pop - sorry, no label or order number
Performance / Shakes - Beggars Banquet - BEG 106 (T)

Nuff said,
-Shoo

"There is no truth, just news."

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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 86 21:12 PST
From: ROBB LEATHERWOOD <ROBB-LEATHERWOOD%LA...@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject: Tones on Tail music
Randomness: The world is coming to an end... SAVE YOUR BUFFERS!!

I just picked up the "Lions" 12" single and yes, it's on red vinyl. It
also poses a problem to those of you who want all of Tones on Tail's
songs without buying all of the 12-inches. The version of "Go" that's
on this single is the Club mix, so, if you really want EVERY song they've
released, you have to buy The Album Pop AND the Lions single. Then again,
maybe the 7-inch single has the original version of "Go!"

Hmmm.

Anyway, the order number for the 12" is BEG 104 T and the 7" is BEG 104

On another subject...

My friend just got this FABULOUS R.E.M. live bootleg called "We Are Having
a Heavenly Time!" It was recorded live at Page Auditorium, wherever that
is, and has the following songs:

7 Chinese Bros.

Catapult
Radio Free Europe
Khoetek
Letters Never Sent
So. Central Rain (I'm Sorry)
Driver 8
(don't go back to) Rockville
Carnival of Sorts (Box Car)
Hyena - New track
Old Man Kensey
Second Guessing

The sound quality is absolutely great. It sounds like a very profession-
ally recorded live album. It has a message on the side, saying:

THIS FAN CLUB ALBUM IS NOT INTENDED FOR SALE,
COMMERCIAL DISTRIBUTION OR AIR PLAY.
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
ENTIRE CONTENTS AND PACKAGING (C) 1985 P.F.M. RECORDS
A DIVISION OF W.B.S.(SPECIAL PRODUCTS)
COVER PRINTED IN U.S.A.

I found this interesting. Anyway, he got it for 16 bucks. Not bad for a
great bootleg.

Later,
-Shoo

"Slender Fungus kissed a fish inside a stolen jeep."

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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 86 11:17:02 EST
From: hs...@ec.purdue.edu (Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Bauhaus/ToT/Love and Rockets (also Math Bats)

Being a rabid Bauhaus addict, I was pretty mad when they broke up. I
picked up POP! a year ago but was rather disappointed. I liked some of
the songs like Slender Fungus, Rain and Real Life, but they sounded
a little like redone Bauhaus classics like Slice of Life or Silent Hedges,
but without Peter Murphy's powerful voice to give the music focus.
I wasn't expecting to warm up to Love and Rockets, but the few songs
I've heard so far I've really liked, in particular the intricate non-
Bauhaus guitar work.

Does anyone know when Peter Murphy's solo album will be out? I've seen
a few 12"s (and of course The Light Pours Out of Me) and a small picture
of what might be the album cover (on the Beggar's Banquet compilation).

I got curious about the Indiana band Math Bats after Greg Earle's
query awhile back, and after some poking around found their mini-album.
(I bought the store copy; they weren't carrying the things anymore.)
No label is listed, tho the songs are supposedly copyright BMI. The
music is pretty uneven. The most interesting passages sound like
nice Pornography-era Cure with more rough edges, but there are some
repetitive and unruly instrumental parts. I'll certainly try to hear
these guys when they come into town.

Bill Hsu

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Date: 23 Feb 86 21:51:00 PST
From: "ROSSI J.A." <ro...@nusc.ARPA>
Subject: Iggy and the Stooges
To: "love-hounds" <love-...@eddie.mit.edu>
Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." <ro...@nusc.ARPA>


This is a reiteration of a prior message concerning the Funhouse album
by Iggy and the Stooges.
I was relatively shocked when I saw mention of Funhouse in the Love-Hounds
Digest. With all the talk of current stuff, I was taken aback by the mention
of a 1970 album (especially as 'The Geratest of All time'), well, actually
I am quite fond of that album and even though I don't consider it near the
bottom of my top 50 list. It is, in my memory, however, the most erotic
album to trip by which I ever heard. I can remember a discussion with
friends when it was released concerning twe thought) obvious intention
of the album to get the whole world balling in beat. Are you out there
Gary Gray.
Anyway, since the subject came up, for the last 16 or so years I have been
]trying to decipher the lyrics to DIRT on that LP (this happens at least once
a year when I play the album). I would, therefore, appreciate it if anyone
has acurately deciphered them to send them to me so I can finally find
out what happened to Iggy after He'd been HURT and didn't care.

Thanks
John
<RO...@NUSC.ARPA>

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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 86 13:50:32 est
From: tim <wici...@nrl-css.ARPA>
Subject: The Singing Fish


with all this chit-chat about Wire and Colin Newman, I want to know
wheter or not I should buy Colin Newman's album 'The Singing Fish'.
It's only 3.50 from wayside, and since i have a good number of $$ in
credit, I might as well use it up. Comments ??

--Funhouse OW! what an album !!! can't get enough of it myself, even though
it was put out in 1970...

grroove-a-thon,
tim

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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 86 13:29:45 EST
From: Hofmann <hof...@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest

> Subject: Children in Adult Jails

> Really-Really-From: Jim Hofmann


> Children In Adult Jails (Buy Our Records)

if anyone needs the BOR address, speak up. I think they put
adds in OPtion and various other publications and zines (whoops
more redundancy)

> "Man Caught In Waffle Iron"

> side two complete with mixmasters and cartoon sound effects and I


> thought like this is the recording that could bring a smile onto
> the face of the as of late solemn Butthole Surfers when and if

ACTually, I heard later that one of the members of the B. S.
has a children in adult jails sticker in their guitar cases ... so
THEY have heard them ... don't know if they smiled that night as
they were reportadly setting their hands on fire and beating on
each other ...

> And I'd sure like to find out the answer to 18 ACROSS sometime, Diane.

I'm still looking! (actually this is in reference to the crossword
puzzle included on the lyric sheet ...)


hof...@amsaa.ARPA

Hey let's take bets on whether this Rowly dude who flamed mod.music
(i.e. love-hounds) is really Palena on another account. He probably
is too afraid to stand behind his own lame opinions so has to hide
behind an alias. [Since we all know you are reading this Larry, you
can reply with collaborating evidence to the contrary (assuming there
is any) that you are in fact NOT Rowly ... oh, and stay lame, dude]

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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 86 15:09:06 EST
From: hs...@purdue-ecn.ARPA (Bill Hsu)
Subject: (Very) Obscure groups question


Does anyone have info on:

Couch Flambeau
Flaming Lips (from Oklahoma, I think)?

I haven't heard anything from Couch Flambeau, but their reviews sound pretty
interesting. The only Flaming Lips I've heard is at Rough Trade in SF.
Some clever guitar noise, tho quite different from my current obsessions
Sonic Youth...

Speaking of Rough Trade, what's the right address to write to? I wrote their
store in San Francisco but still haven't got my catalog after many weeks...

Bill Hsu

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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 86 13:15:20 PST
From: jor...@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu (Jordan Hayes)
Subject: Re: Flamming Lipps

I saw them here in Berkeley over xmas -- they opened for Wall of BooBoo.
Pretty fun guys ... I hear they've put on MUCH better shows, but they
wound up doing some 60's and 70's "hits", and even an impromptu Doors
track that 'split-muh-seams' ... The lead singer was on the edge
of lyrangitis (sp?) and remarked "If this voice goes, then
we're just gonna hafta do some shitty instrumentals, so WATCH OUT" ...

/jordan

Greg Skinner

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Love-Hounds Digest Thursday, March 6, 1986, 01:51

Today's Topics:

Various (2 msgs)
re: literary references in music

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From: Jeff Dalton <jeff%aiva.edinb...@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 86 18:01:38 GMT
Subject: Various

I mailed this before but, as sometimes happens with X-Atlantic mail, it
just vanished into the void. Sorry if anyone gets it twice.

---

(1) Thanks to tsung@aero for mentioning Liona Boyd. (Warning: classical
guitar, but can be great ...)

(2) BMI Awards: According to the gossip on Radio 1, Kate was a replacement
for Sade, who was supposed to sing but couldn't do it given tour, &c. At
least they got it right the 2nd time.

The award for best female artist went to Annie Lennox.

Also, it's just possible that Kate might not have been lip-sync -- she had
a cordless mic and was holding it in her hand even while being spun
around. (Or at least it looked that way to me.)

(3) From NME, 15 Feb 1986:

KATE BUSH releases the title track from her 'Hounds of Love' LP
as her new EMI single next Monday, coupled with the traditional
and unaccompanied 'The Handsome Cabin Boy'. She's recorded a
completely new vocal for the 12" extended version, which is called
'Alternative Hounds of Love', and this also has the bonus of 'Jig
of Life'. And to complete the action, Kate has directed her own
video of the single.

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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 86 16:10:57 EST
From: hs...@ec.purdue.edu (Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: re: literary references in music

Anyone ever finish Remembrance of Things Past? I gave up around page 20,
but then Christmas break has never been a good time for big reading
projects... Another big book I'll get to soon (I hope) is Pynchon's
Gravity's Rainbow, which is referenced in Laurie Anderson's "Gravity's
Angel" from the Mister Heartbreak album. Pynchon writes hilarious
fake lyrics in his books --- try Crying of Lot 49 for a great read
and some sharp lyrics.

There are also lines from T.S. Eliot's Waste Land in another Laurie
Anderson song from Mister Heartbreak (I think it's Blue Lagoon). It's
the part that goes "...those are pearls that were his eyes...", about
a drowned man. I don't recall any quotes from Big Science (don't have
the lyrics with me); anyone has pointers?

Bill Hsu

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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 86 11:41:53 est
From: bdmrrr!potomac!j...@seismo.CSS.GOV (John Labovitz)
Subject: Re: Various

On the subject of the BMI awards...

I got my brother to tape it, and when watching it later, I fast-forwarded
through *everything* except Kate Bush. What a junky show. Not quite as
bad as the Grammys, but pretty close (at least Kenny Rogers didn't host
BMI).

Kate looked bored as hell, and like she wasn't having much fun. I think
she was lip-syncing, cuz otherwise the song would have sounded like shit
(no excitement or effort on her part). She also looked pretty awful --
someone put about an inch of makeup on her.

Note that I'm not cutting down Kate, because I'm sure that it wasn't all
her idea. Just that I wasn't very impressed, and I'm pissed that I had
to sit there for an hour fast-forwarding thru the shit to get to her. Oh
well. Such is life, and TV, and business, and...

John Labovitz ..!{rlgvax,seismo}!bdmrrr!potomac!jsl
--
I've got you under my skin where the rain can't get in
And if the sweat pours out, just shout,
I'll try to swim and haul you out. -- The The

g...@mit-eddie.uucp

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Love-Hounds Digest Thursday, March 6, 1986, 15:32

Today's Topics:

Last Word on Tones On Tail ; Random 1986 Observations
Re: literary references in music
No more Sisters? and Palena pictures...
DK's lyrics
Jane Siberry

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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 86 19:12:08 pst
From: ia-sun2!smeagol!gorbag!ea...@csvax.caltech.edu (Greg Earle)
Subject: Last Word on Tones On Tail ; Random 1986 Observations

To DIGITAL DAN:
You got it backwards. David Jay is in Love and Rockets, NOT in
Tones On Tail. Also, the members of Tones On Tail were NOT all members
of Bauhaus; see below.

To ROBB LEATHERWOOD (shoo):
The L & R LP with 'Ball of Confusion' added is the Canadian release.

To Everybody else:
Here's the Bird's Eye Low-Down On This Caper (whatever that means):

Tones on Tail was formed in 1981 by Daniel Ash of Bauhaus, and Glenn Campling
(Bauhaus' Lighting/Road manager). The first two singles (EP's) were the
product of these two alone. Starting with single #3, Kevin Haskins (also
ex-Bauhaus) joined. Discography follows (7" versions omitted) :

Tones On Tail EP 4AD BAD 203 (1982)
(Tracks: A Bigger Splash / Copper // Means Of Escape /Instrumental)

There's Only One / Now We Lustre 12" Beggars Banquet BEG 85T (1982)
[Wrigley's Fun Fact #1: 'Now We Lustre' is subtitled:
"(Beam Me Up Scotty, There's No Intelligent Life Down Here)"]
[Wrigley's Fun Fact #2: Ash is credited with 'Accoustic' (sic) guitars]

Burning Skies / OK, This Is The Pops // When You're Smiling / You The Night
and The Music 12" Situation Two SIT 21T (1983)
[Wrigley's Fun Fact #3: This is the first record with Kevin Haskins]
[Wrigley's Fun Fact #4: These 3 EP's are what the compilation is culled from]

Performance / Shakes Beggars Banquet BEG 106T (BLACK VINYL)
Lions / Go! (Club Mix) Beggars Banquet BEG 109T (RED VINYL)
'Pop' LP Beggars Banquet BEGA 51 (1984)
Christian Says / Twist Beggars Banquet BEG 121T (BLUE VINYL)

[Wrigley's Fun Fact #5: When Love and Rockets played in L.A., they did an
acoustic version of "Lucifer Sam"; also "Go!"]

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Random Musical Observations of 1986 From Yours Truly:

First Record of '86 to qualify for 'Who would have believed it, 9 years ago?':
Public Image Ltd. - "Album"
First Record of '86 to qualify for 'Who would have believed it, 7 years ago?':
Feargal Sharkey - "Feargal Sharkey"
First Record of '86 that makes all other '86 releases completely irrelevant:
Princess Tinymeat - "Wigs On The Green" (B-side of "A Bun In The Oven")
First Record of '86 to remind me "When's the next Test Dept. record?":
Swans - "Time Is Money (Bastard)"
Reasons To No Longer Avoid All Double Albums Like The Plague:
Hula - "1000 Hours"
Severed Heads - "Clifford Darling, Please Don't Live In The Past"
Most Hilarious Quotations of '86:
"Rich Rosen accounts for 2% of the net! Ban Rich Rosen!!!"
(To Larry Palena) "Stay Lame, Dude"
[ Thanks to hof for these gems ]
Biggest Disappointments of '86:
(1) Missing the reunion of the Original Christian Death
(aside to hof: not only have I heard of 'em, you should find the
1982 LP "Only Theatre Of Pain" (Frontier) Right Away - features
Rikk Agnew, guitarist for Adolescents and now DI). They opened for
Flesh For Lulu - it was advertised but the next ad saw C.D. removed.
So I decided to bag it; they showed up anyway. SHUCKS.
(2) Missing Youth Brigade and the Weirdos reunion due to
ice-pick-pounding shit-I'm-gonna-die-fer-sure-level headache.
SHUCKS 2.
Biggest Waste Of Newsprint In '86:
Village Voice - "Spazz and Slop Pole"
Biggest Wanker Of '86:
Robert Christgau (for including partial examples of random Poll
ballots, but including ALL of his own under the pompous heading,
"The Dean's List" - I could go on and on about his idiotic commentary,
but (a) you're bored ; and (b) I don't want to waste the time.
See hof's treatise from Feb. 20th for the general idea.
HOTTEST NEWS FLASH OF '86 (Just received *10 minutes* ago):
Return of Siouxsie & The Banshees to Irvine Meadows Amplitheatre
(BOO - Mini Stadium) and Hollywood Palladium (Ehh... well)
Return of Jesus and Mary Chain
Return of Echo & The Bunnymen (first show in 3 years)
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Best Album Of All Time:
Boston "Boston" (HEY! Fugg you too - my brudder went to High School
with the bass player, and 3 of them lived in my
hometown, so piss off)

What? Sarcasm? Moi?
NOW, CAN WE END THIS SILLY DISCUSSION?

Hey Sue T. - An easier way to get your 15 minutes of fame would be to write
a disertation on why Spazz and Slop Polls are completely STUPID and a waste
of time, and send it to the Voice editor. Then you can see your name in the
'Letters to the Editor' column in a helluva lot bigger typeface than that
3-point face (was it even 1/10" tall?) *your* name got put in .....


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Subject: Re: literary references in music
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 86 14:22:34 -0800
From: al...@csvax.caltech.edu


hs...@ec.purdue.edu (Tsun-Yuk Hsu) writes:
> There are also lines from T.S. Eliot's Waste Land in another Laurie
> Anderson song from Mister Heartbreak (I think it's Blue Lagoon). It's
> the part that goes "...those are pearls that were his eyes...", about
> a drowned man. I don't recall any quotes from Big Science (don't have
> the lyrics with me); anyone has pointers?
> Bill Hsu

ummmm ... actually, that quote rather predates Eliot. It's from Shake-
speare's "The Tempest". About half of "The Wasteland" is literary ref-
erences of varying degrees of faithfulness, so attributing quotes from
it to Eliot is a risky thing to do; I suggest checking a good annotated
version of the poem first. (I know; I've embarrassed myself on this
before...)
--Peter Alfke
al...@csvax.caltech.edu

PS: Another two-levels-of-quoting thing is Genesis' "The Cinema Show"
(from "Selling England by the Pound"), which quotes the courtship
scene from "The Wasteland", which is loosely based on the Greek
legend of Tiresias . . .

"Everything is deeply intertwingled" --Ted Nelson

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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 86 09:13:16 est
From: allegra!sjuvax!kirsch (P. Kirsch)
Subject: No more Sisters? and Palena pictures...

Is it true about what I read on the net??--That the Sisters of Mercy have
broken up?--I finally start to worship a band that is still putting out
albums (unlike Joy Division) and this happens!! All I can say is SH*T!

As far as everybody wondering what Master Palena really looks like--just send
me some mail and I'll try to give you a description...


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-Paul Kirsch


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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 86 09:18:15 est
From: allegra!sjuvax!kirsch (P. Kirsch)
Subject: DK's lyrics

Somebody wanted the lyrics to DK's albums--I have the ones for Plastic Surg.
so, who ever wanted them could they mail me an address (US Mail) to send them
to??


"Honesty ain't all that hard"
"Just put Rambo back inside your pants"

Paul Kirsch


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Date: Fri 28 Feb 86 22:49:41-PST
From: Bob Knight <KNI...@SRI-NIC.ARPA>
Subject: Jane Siberry

>From my record store owner friend in ABQ, just received what I believe to
be the first Jane Siberry album. B&W cover, very cute picture of her on
the front. Is this album "Speckless Sky", or am I missing that one too?
(It's on Street Records)...

Cannot find any reference to "Speckless Sky" anywhere on the album, 'is
why I ask...

Bob

"Ordinary people. I hate 'em."
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g...@mit-eddie.uucp

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Today's Topics:

Re: Love-Hounds Digest (2 msgs)

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 86 02:03:24 PST
From: David Fetrow <allegra!uw-beaver!entropy!fetrow>
Posted-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 86 02:03:24 PST
Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest

> Fast forwarding through British Music Awards....

Then you missed my favorite quote:

"I don't know why we got the award...Kate Bush did a much better album than
us this year." - Annie Lennox

.... or words to that effect.

-Dave Fetrow

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Date: 2 Mar 1986 11:07-PST
Sender: CDONA...@USC-ISIF.ARPA
Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest
From: CDONA...@USC-ISIF.ARPA

>[From: Hoffman]
>
> ... commercial Murdochish things like Village Voice) [Whew]
>
>So don't feel so "hip" about helping Rupert Murdoch's paper out...
>

Mr. Hoffman, the Village Voice is NO longer owned by R. Murdoch. Perhaps
it was a year ago that Leonard Stern purchased it (if I recall for $55M).
Stern actually is a multi-millionaire and a steadfast loyal Republican.
His fortune is due to the Harz pet product empire, a business established
by his grandfather. The Voice apparently is a very profitable publishing
venture, so Stern, like any true capitalist, forget about his conservative
ideology and purchased this "liberal" rag.



"Profit before Principle"
G.

Greg Skinner

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Today's Topics:

Oops...
forwarded message on Christian Death
(transference of electric love muffin discussion)
'ofmann eats 'umble pie ... actually subversive diatribe.
Review: THE SNAKES, _I_Won't_Love_You_(Until_You're_More_Like_Me)_, Dischord, 1986
Jah give me de liscense to . . . fish (fish(ish(ish(ish(sh . . .
Re: Fripp, Exposure, Daryl Hall, King Crimson
In Remembrance of Pamela Stevenson

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 86 10:51:13 EST
From: hs...@ec.purdue.edu (Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Oops...


Thanks to Peter Alfke (sp.?) for correcting my attributing Shakespeare to
T.S. Elliot. I WAS going to check my copy of Waste Land before babbling,
but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... And I have a well-read copy of the Tempest too...
(insert symbol for extreme embarrassment, foot-in-mouth, red face etc.)

Pseudo-music question of the day: I saw Woody Allen's Hannah and Her Sisters
twice this weekend (how's that for a recommendation? :-) There was a
scene in the movie with Woody Allen in a nightclub making faces while
this band is playing on stage. I thought the band looked too "camp" to
be real, but the cast list at the end named them as "The 39 Steps". Is
this a real band? Has anyone seen them? They're your basic quartet of
lead singer, 2 guitar/bass players and drummer. Just curious...


Still Embarrassed
Bill Hsu

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 86 9:27:14 EST
From: Hofmann <hof...@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject: forwarded message on Christian Death


And now for an opposing view from GoF (I'm assuming that's
who you were refering to, Greg?)

John sent me this description of Christian DEath by e-mail and
I later asked him if I could post it to love-hounds ( mod.music ),
he said he wasn't sure about all the facts (I said, well, I've
never really been one for facts 8-> ) so ... I even researched this
one a bit and I think everything is correct.

Jim
------------------------
From: John Reeves <ree...@ucla.locus.edu>

Christian Death is was and will be Wank city. Formed roughly the same time
as Joy Div and Bahaus, CD was the first (or therabouts) death/halloweenie
bands - all spooky in black clothes, snow white tans and mysterioso images
- featured Rikki Agnew (x-Adolecents, now in DI) on gtr and Tranvestite
Roz on Vocals. Their first album was on Frontier and most people saw
straight through the selfindulgent bullshit, until it got to europe where
it 'inspired' a cult following culminating in the Batcave stuff. Of course
when the inspiration got back here, people went apecrazy of it - nothing
like validation from the mother shores to be claimed as originality. nah.
By the time doom and gloom got fashionable, Christian Death had broken up,
but when Roz found out she was Big in England, she reformed the band with
second stringers for a Yerpean tour (this was about 1984?). I don't know
about any other vinyl. The original members recently had a one-shot reunion
gig, after which they were served notice by a lawyer for one of the second
stringers (moniked 'Valor') to cease and desist using the name 'cause of
trademark infingment. Nice guy.

--John

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 86 9:38:38 EST
From: Hofmann <hof...@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject: (transference of electric love muffin discussion)

Welcome, Paul Kirsch to this list - I've decided to stop responding
to your brethern at SJU after they both showed themselves to the
world their ignorance. I just hope no one else out there believes
them. Actually, I heard the Electric Love Muffins (which one of
your fellow SJU'ers proclaimed undying love ) at a "hardcore" show
with the Psychotic Normans and Flag of Democracy. I liked them
so much I traveled up to Philly to hear them with Executive Slacks.
It is ironic that someone like L.P. would like them since they
had to look to the hardcore scene for gigs and nuturing. One question,
that I couldn't pursue when I last saw them since the drive home
was to be long and arduous and I couldn't stick around - do they
have any tapes out? or records?

Finally, is Palena really Rowly? Their writing style and
views coincide so much that it seems hard to believe it is
coincidence. Please fill us in.

Here, Greg is my favorite quote -
"Communication is essential if we wish to communicate!!"
- Mike (some guy at a club)

and from a personal letter from Joe Jack:
"don't get hit by any cars, Jim"

Hofmann
-----------
I reserve the right not to respond to any flames.

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 86 10:00:54 EST
From: Hofmann <hof...@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject: 'ofmann eats 'umble pie ... actually subversive diatribe.

>Date: 2 Mar 1986 11:07-PST
>Sender: CDONA...@USC-ISIF.ARPA
>Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest
>From: CDONA...@USC-ISIF.ARPA

> Mr. Hoffman, the Village Voice is NO longer owned by R. Murdoch. Perhaps

Once again, my complete lack of intelligence is shown to the world ... thanks
for filling me in so I won't make a total ass of myself at parties ...

speakin' of parties, i attended one last saturday in reisterstown, md with
the total reistertown high school "hardcore" population. it was held in
an attic with about an average of 2 inches head clearance (estimated
std. deviation = 32") with a band called OTR playing. They asked the
crowd if they wanted to hear Judas Priest, when no one responded, they
said fuck you and played some anyway. I guess you can guess what OTR
stands for - amazing, though, how easy it is for a bunch of teenagers
to create their own alternative scene without any wankers telling them
what is "politically and musically correct" in order to be "alternative."

These various assorted "scenes" in small town America anywhere is sympomatic
of the coming decline of the "music ""industry"" " - most of these major
labels are holding companies for large conglomorates who will cut their
profit and run at the first sign of unmarketability. Why do you think this
push for dollar taxes on blank tapes and 25% taxes on dual port recorders
is going on? Kids aren't only "bootlegging" lp's they are passing
around tapes of their local bands and listening to them, regardless
of a slick, professional sound. This "slick professional sound" can
be easily produced for a few bucks more anyway and some bands into
marketing their own tapes are doing it on their own. When the major
labels cry about dwindling sales (only like 4 billion last year -
[that's probably inaccurate but it's something outrageous)] they
are really yelling "fire" in a crowded movie house, where all the
strange men in overcoats are really cassettes of unsigned, unknown,
bands and instead of a "fire" all these strange men are TRADING themselves
with each other. Horrifying!!!

but like I said, alot of these major labels will give up when the
going gets unprofitable - look at MGM (I know that's movies but ...)
so take heart as they try desparately to come up with marketing
ideas like "next wave" or "cd players" ...

Be subversive, buy a cassette from an unknown band. Take chances -
you might find something you like.

Hofmann
> "Profit before Principle"
yah! the same exact
philosophy can be used
against them...


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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 86 17:29:00 EST
From: Hofmann <hof...@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject: Review: THE SNAKES, _I_Won't_Love_You_(Until_You're_More_Like_Me)_, Dischord, 1986

Date: Wed, 26 Feb 86 17:33:12 EST
Subject: Jah give me de liscense to . . . fish (fish(ish(ish(ish(sh . . .

I was thinking how it's about time I wrote a real snotty thing about a record
and was considering this new Snakes thing from Dischord to rant about. After
all, it's an easy target - with the retread garage punk psyche that this mostly
is but I've realized that, damnit, I like this vinyl. Sure, it's funny but I
could probably spend days describing the various influences that pop up here
with hardcore being among the least of them. This strikes some as suprising
since the release is a brainchild of Mike Hampton and Ivar Jacobson, who though
they claim not to listen to hardcore spend a hell of lot of time playing it
with their respective bands, Embrace and SOA (well, correction - SOA isn't
playing that much anymore ...). At times, this soars with the best of the 60's
garage compilations (Nuggets spring to mind here) with the punky melodic
tunes as, "I won't love you (till your more like me)" (the title cut), "Twelve
Angry Men", "Serv Pro Joe" (with its Keith Moonish vocals!) and "She's got
it now". But they didn't stop there and included some send-ups of other
genres with Snake Rap, License to Fish (reggae - see subject header) and
Fixing A Chair. The latter cut in it's first few moments sounded like some
real cool thrash but before they pound into it - one of the boys stops and
says he can't play because he has to go fix a chair. Must be an in joke
because this baby is ripe with them. For example, the last cut on side 1
features someone pouring a cola and is entitled Confirming Suspicions
perhaps referring to Ian's supposed Coke (we're talking about the soda here,
folks) addiction that invariably he mentions in interviews. Oh yeah, Ian
MacKaye is producing here in case you didn't know but with all the dubbing and
ping-ponging that was probably going on at the Inner Ear during this recording
the mix comes out somewhat flat. Too bad, they couldn't have waited until the
Ear went 16-track.

So how could I hate this vinyl? With all this and the price ($5) - how can you
go wrong (as !stolaf!robertsl would say)? So if you're into garage-punk psyche
dub or something of that configuration, I strongly recommend you add this to your
collection.

Available from Dischord Records, Washington DC

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 86 06:36:05 est
From: John Kitamura <floyd!clyde!watmath!utcsri!kato>
Subject: Re: Fripp, Exposure, Daryl Hall, King Crimson
Apparently-To: Love-Hounds

[This article was found in mod.music. You may may to edit it out,
gds, so that it doesn't appear twice. -- Doug]

Although credited as co-composer, Daryl Hall isn't the vocalist on
"Chicago". It is sung by the amazing Peter Hammil, of Van Der Graff Generator
fame, and lately of the "K" Band. Hammil and Fripp have collaborated on
several other projects (Two VDGG albums, "H to He, Who am the Only One", and
"Pawn Hearts", and a couple solo Hammil albums (I think)).
On exposure, Hammil also sings on "Disengage" and "I may not have had e..."
Another interesting point; "Exposure" has been recently (end of
last summer) re-released in Canada with a foldout cover. The tracks are
listed as the same but there are noticeable differences in the songs.
A different vocal track is used on "Disengage", the Frippertronics
pieces are a lot longer (some by several minutes), and some of the between
track conversations have been shortened.
As for "Exposure" being a Crimson album, I have to agree. Most of
the material was written while Crimson was still together (The Wetton/Bruford/
Cross line-up) and it sounds much more like Crimson than Fripp's later
works. (But not the `new' Crimson - the Belew infested one).

A postscript: For those of you who really enjoy the hard-edged
material on "Exposure" and "Starless and Bible Black", and are Wayside Music
corresponders, I heartily recommend the two "Bi Kyo Ran" albums that they
are currently offering - a Japanese Crimson-cover band. Perhaps not the
most inventive music ever recorded, but the guitarist/composer is a dead
ringer for that era of Fripp.

John Kitamura/ Univ of Toronto

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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 86 01:21:13 EST
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: In Remembrance of Pamela Stevenson

>> [Me:] If anyone thinks they know how "aresh aresh tomp pare hairdo"
>> should really read, or knows what a "Cop Boutique" is, please let
>> me know:

> [gtalylor:] I'm surprised that a dedicated obscurantist such as
> yourself could miss where "aresh" comes from.....after all, the
> author's name is right there in the song! Yep, good old Marcel Brust
> -oops, that's Proust. The real title is "A la Recherche du Temps
> Perdu", translated in English as "The Remembrance of Things Past."

Oh well, so much for my knowledge of French literature... Actually I
know of the book -- just not the author.

Good detective work! I went back and listened to the song, and think
that the line is actually a play on the real title. It now sounds
like

Went to my hairdresser to have a hairdoo
He asked if I him knew 'A la Recherche Tete-Temps Perdu"

> It's a 3 volume set of 7 "books" in the most elliptical Frogspeak
> you can imagine whose siren charms are known to all. It is the
> novelistic equivalent of very good brandy. It will either entirely
> captivate your or put you right to sleep, just like you-know-who.

How much is lost or altered in translation, though? I have enough
trouble with elliptical English Frogspeak, without trying to tackle
French Frogspeak.

"La plume de ma tante est sur la beaureau de mon uncle
Et le papier de mon uncle est sur la beaureau de ma tante"

Doug

Greg Skinner

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Today's Topics:

Here Comes The Flood
Dischord Address

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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 86 11:56:43 EST
From: hs...@purdue-ecn.ARPA (Bill Hsu)
Subject: Here Comes The Flood

I don't have Fripp's Exposure, but I've heard both versions of HCTF. If
I didn't hear the piano solo version first, I probably would have hated
the song; all those mushy strings on the Peter Gabriel I version make it
one of the worst arrangements on the album. I'm pretty ambivalent about
the production on that album. Some of the already wonderful songs are
really enhanced (e.g. the Humdrum), but the awful strings on side 2 are
simply TOO MUCH. Kind of reminds me of the doodling on some very early
Genesis albums like Trespass.

Confession of the day: I bought my first Peter Hammill album only fairly
recently. Some of the ballads were a little too sappy for me, but the
upbeat rockers are all clever and effective. Did stuff like "Imperial
Zeppelin" and "Good Morning Sunshine" get much airplay when they first
came out? I seem to remember hearing some of them in my dubious past...

Bill Hsu

"Makes you go where you can't go
Makes you want what you can't have
Desire..."

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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 86 15:41:30 EST
From: Hofmann <hof...@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject: Dischord Address

The address for Dischord Records is:

3819 Beecher St. NW
Washington, D.C. 20007

I think a SASE should get you their latest catalog.
The Snakes LP I reviewed yesterday is $5 as are most
of their LP's. So the 45's and EP are usually
priced accordingly. With the money you save, it's
well worth getting your shipment insured.

Greg Skinner

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Love-Hounds Digest Sunday, March 9, 1986, 02:24

Today's Topics:

Princess Tinymeat?
My encounter with "The Most Feared Man In Rock"!
I think I'm going to die...
The Handsome Cabin Boy

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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 86 13:37:25 est
From: David Oskard <d...@cvl.umd.edu>
Subject: Princess Tinymeat?

Somebody tell me about Princess Tinymeat! Sounds like a real winner.

dno
~r
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 86 15:53:20 EST
From: Susanne E Trowbridge <umcp-cs!jhunix!ins_...@seismo.CSS.GOV>
Subject: My encounter with "The Most Feared Man In Rock"!

The Fall are my favorite band currently in existence (that neatly
sidesteps Roxy Music and Joy Division). Maybe that's why I was
so nervous yesterday as I sat in Washington's 9:30 Club, waiting
for them to emerge...I've interviewed so many musicians, both
famous and obscure, and I thought that jittery feeling had gone
away forever!

But then again, lead singer Mark E. Smith is "The Most Feared
Man In Rock," according to the British music weeklies (forgot who
it was exactly who gave him this tag). He sing-speaks his acerbic
lyrics, often unintelligible, and has been known to show hostility
to many an interviewer. I was hoping and praying that I would
get to speak to his wife, Brix, one of The Fall's three guitarists
and a Californian. Of course, things never go as planned...the
tour manager handed Brix over to everyone's fave rockcrit guy,
J.D. Considine, as I silently fumed and tore up the two pages of
questions I had been wanting to ask Brix...

Then I saw MARK E. He looks exactly like he does on the record
covers. He wasn't snarling or anything, but I was still worried.
Karen, the aforementioned tour manager, broke the news that I'd
be speaking with Mark and guitarist/bassist Craig Scanlon. We
were told to go to a bar and grill about two blocks from the club.
We weren't told exactly where it was. Fortunately, my fellow
interviewer/boyfriend had spotted it on the way and we managed to
get there without too much difficulty.

Well, believe it or not, Mark E. Smith is a nice guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He'
He has a great sense of humor, and although he said he'd done ten
interviews the day before and wanted to leave most of the talking to
Craig, he ended up joining in the conversation and even staying
around to talk to us after Craig had gone back to the soundcheck.
We talked about politics, Japan, all kinds of weird things. Craig
told me that he had spent his free day in DC touring the NRA...
Best line from Mark: an obnoxious DJ from a Rochester, NY station
came to the bar to fetch him back to the soundcheck, and on the way
walking back, asked what guarantee the Fall had gotten (i.e. $$$).
Mark said, "We don't talk about things like that in England. It's
like asking me what kind of sex I have with my wife!"

The Feared Side of Mark E. emerged at the show itself, when the
monitors weren't working. Mark kicked over the synthesizer (it
still worked!), the mike stand, and threw beer on the audience.
The audience soon joined in the violence, and a few started slam-
dancing madly. I had a great place near the front and found myself
so jostled around that I attempted to move to the left...however,
the slamming grew wilder and I spent the entire show in much closer
contact with my fellow audience members than I cared to be. As
for the show, it was OK, not great...the band wasn't in a good
mood, perhaps because of the equipment...Mark E. was commenting
earlier about how badly the 9:30 Club was run. The versions of
"Cruisers Creek" and "L.A." were rather lame. They did lots of
new material and obscure single b-sides...

All in all, the interview was by far the best part of the show.
Sorry to have prattled on for so long, but if you aren't interested
in the Fall, you probably haven't read this far anyway.

sue

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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 86 18:07:14 est
From: bdmrrr!potomac!j...@seismo.CSS.GOV (John Labovitz)
Subject: I think I'm going to die...

There are SOOO many good concerts and shows this month that I think my brain
might explode. For you people in the DC area, here's what I think are
interesting. Some of these are on tour, so check for them in your town.

13th Jonathan Richman [Saba Club]. Yeah yeah yeah! This is his yearly
(or so) appearance (last year he came twice). I think the modern
lovers are going to be with him, at least some form of them.

15th Tru Fax and the Insaniacs [9:30 Club]. Ok, so they aren't a hot new
band, but they're silly and fun.

16th Pussy Galore, Madhouse, (others) [1819 H St NW (some bar -- if
anyone's interested, mail me and I'll find out)]. Pussy Galore is
supposedly really bad, so it should be interesting. Madhouse is
good.

28th Robyn Hitchcock [9:30 Club]. YEA YEA YEA again. He just played here
a couple of months ago, did he come back again from England, or
is this still the same tour? Anyway, should be good. This time
I'm going to tape it... (altho the 9:30 club just started frisking
people for things like that).

28th Troubled Garden [dc space]. WHY ARE THEY PLAYING THE SAME DATE
AS ROBYN??? ARGG! This is a *great* band. And they had supposedly
broken up. Since 9:30 club is always late for everything, you could
probably walk down to dc space and stand outside and listen, then
go see Robyn.

Support your local scene. Support your remote scene. Just support something.

John Labovitz ..!{rlgvax,seismo}!bdmrrr!potomac!jsl
--

Don't act so embarrassed
It's a family trait
-- Robyn Hitchcock

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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 86 02:00:31 EST
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: The Handsome Cabin Boy

Kate's new import twelve-inch single has been available in the U.S.
for more than a week now, so I trust you have all run out and bought
it, so that you have every note KB has ever put down on vinyl. But
for those errant few who do not have it yet or who have not researched
it's entire history, I will tell you about it.

The A side contains a totally new version of the song "Hounds Of
Love". It is *not* a remix, but a totally new version called
"Alternate Hounds Of Love". It is so different from the original, you
could even say it's a new song. The drum beat is similar and it has
the cellos chugging away, but the melody and lyrics are different. It
is better than the original, musically, though the lyrics are more in
the extended remix vein. The background vocals border on the silly
(even more so than on the original), but someohow the sillyness fits
perfectly and it sounds great.

The B-side contains the album version of "Jig Of Life" and a new song
"The Handsome Cabin Boy". "The Handsome Cabin Boy" is a traditional
dirty sea chantey, and Kate sings it a cappela in her best Scottish
accent. Throughout there is a haunting chorus of Kates in the
background droning a continuous two notes that are a fifth apart.
This is really neat not only because it sounds *really* intense, but
also because this is what bag pipes do. Bag pipes have three pipes.
The pitch of one of the pipes can be controlled, but the other two
pipes always play the same two notes which are a fifth apart.

I have known for a while that Kate Bush was introduced to music as a
kid by singing dirty sea chanteys with her brothers, and I find it
strange that a dirty sea chantey now appears on her record. When I
interviewed Kate, one of the questions I was going to ask if I had the
time was if she would be willing to sing one of the dirty sea chanteys
she sang as a kid. And now one is on her record! In any case, I have
heard the song "The Handsome Cabin Boy" before. In fact, I heard it on
a tape of a radio show done about five years ago where KB was guest
DJ. HCB was one of the songs she played, and she said it's an
"absolutely classic story". It was peformed by A. L. Loyd and Euwan
McCall. I'm told that has also been performed by Gordon Bok.

These are the lyrics as Kate sings them:

It's of a pretty female as you may understand
Her mind been bent for rambling into some foreign land
She dressed herself in sailor's clothes, or so it does appear
And she hired with a captain to serve him for a year

Her cheeks they were like roses and her hair all in a curl
The sailors often smiled and said he looked just like a girl
But eating all the captain's biscuit her colour did destroy
And the waist did swell of pretty Nell, the handsome cabin boy

It was in the Bay of Biscay her gallant ship did plow
One night among the sailors was a fearful floorin' row
They tumbled from their hammocks, for their sleep it did destroy
And they swarmed about the groanin' of the handsome cabin boy

"Oh doctor, dear. Oh doctor," the cabin boy did cry
"The time has come -- I am undone, and I will surely die"
The doctor come a'runnin' and a'smilin' at their fun --
To think a sailor lad should have a daughter or a son

The sailors when they saw the joke, they all did stand and stare
The child belonged to none of them, they solemnly did swear
And the captain's wife she says to him, "My dear I wish you joy
For 'tis either you or me's betrayed the handsome cabin boy"

[the end]

There are two verses to the song which Kate has left out. One is the
second verse:

The captain's wife she being on board, she seem-ed in great joy
To see her husband had engaged such a handsome cabin boy
And now and then she'd slip in a kiss, and she would have liked to toy
But it was the captain found out the secret of the handsome cabin boy

[end of second verse]

The other is the last verse:

Then each man took his tot of rum, and drunk success to trade
And likewise to the cabin boy, who was neither man nor maid
Here's hopin' the wars don't rise again, our sailors to destroy
And here's hoping for a jolly lot more like the handsome cabin boy

[end of last verse]

Coming soon: Kate directs her first video ("Hounds of Love") and they
are showing it on Night Flight and V66....

"Run, run, run, run, run, run, Honey
Run from the hounds of love"

Doug

P.S. KB trivia for today: I know two different people who heard Tod
Rungren guest DJ two different radio shows back in '78 or '79, and he
played nothing but Kate Bush.... (So you see, Jim, Tod is good for
something!)

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