Webinar chatter

[Jacqueline Batchelor]

Hi All

Find included in this email a copy of the chat stream from the Mobile Curriculum Framework (MCF) webinar.

Regards

Jacqueline Batchelor

Amit Garg:

Good Evening...8.30 PM here in Pune, India

Adele Botha:

Good day all

Gissy:

Good morninog from Utah

Adele Botha:

Summer is coming in South Africa

Gissy:

morning*

Tuulia:

Hello from Jyväskylä, Finland

Amit Garg:

yes

Gissy:

Loud and clear

ET_Russell:

Sound and video on

Tuulia:

Great, thanks.

carolina_1:

Yes, we can listen to you � 

MayraAixaVillar:

Hello from Argentina!

Adelina Moura_1:

I listen you

carolina_1:

� the same, but no idea if I have audio too

Adelina Moura_1:

from Portugal

Irma_1:

Hi from Argentina

Jo Colley:

Hi Jo from UK

Nemir:

Hi from Orlando, Florida

Jo Colley:

yes it is freezing!

Adele Botha:

Tuulia How is temp ??

Lutz Siemer_1:

Hi from Germany

Tuulia:

About + 13

samsiah:

Hi. Greetings from Malaysia.

Adele Botha:

Carolina is at the UEF

carolina_1:

can you listen to the other people, or we can only listen to you?

Adele Botha:

You type I talk

carolina_1:

ok perfect 

carolina_1:

no problem 

carolina_1:

� 

Adele Botha:

I know my english sounds funny on some ears so please stop me when you dont understand

Annamaria_3:

�

Adele Botha:

�

samsiah:

ok.

Me:

Hi Adele and Carolina

Irma_1:

�

Adele Botha:

5:10

carolina_1:

� 

Nemir:

�

ET_Russell:

PPT is good

Me:

I had some trouble with Chrome �

Gissy:

Yep!

Jo Colley:

yes 

Adele Botha:

can you see the pdf

diane:

yes

Adelina Moura_1:

�

Laurence Lachapelle:

�

Nemir:

yes

samsiah:

yes

Me:

YES and audio is good too

Me:

marlien Herselman

Me:

Inge de waard too

Me:

on-goingl participation encouraced

Agustin_1:

hi

Me:

In the meantime - can you all give some indication from where in the world you are connecting from?

Helga_1:

Hi Adel

Nemir:

11 AM

Nemir:

Florida

Laurence Lachapelle:

From Montréal, Canada. Testing the chat: it seems I have no Writing control...

Agustin_1:

Ok. I´m Spain 

Jo Colley:

Northern England

Adelina Moura_1:

Portugal

Laurence Lachapelle:

Ha, it works! �

Helga_1:

Very nice

Jo Colley:

does google provide knowledge or just info?

Me:

Currently mainly access to information, however, they also provide tools enabling knowledge construction

Jo Colley:

think this is a big issue - how knowledge is constructed

Helga_1:

Students should become inventors/constructors rather than to be receivers of information.

Jo Colley:

Indeed - but how?

Me:

YIP indeed - we should continue this conversation - maybe as part of a google group discussion

Amit Garg_1:

In Urban areas mobile is a personal device in India as well

Amit Garg_1:

In Rural areas possibly a shared device sometimes

carolina_1:

In Mexico is a bit silar as Amit mentions

Me:

Mobile centric user - have little if any access to a PC and even slimmer possibility of EVER owning a PC in their lifetime.

Annamaria_3:

I never tought it was so different from Europe!

carolina_1:

Jo Colley, following what you talked with Jaqueline. Thinking is a process. What makes the process very interesting is that it is unique in each one of us, simultaneously it shares characteristics. Neuroscientist offers a lot of answers to this. 

Me:

It is VERY context specific. Great difference between urban and rural as well especially in Africa and other similar developing countries.

carolina_1:

However for thinking, we need information but also how to process that information. Interestingly, those process are very contextualized.  And mobile learning makes evident those contextual characteristics we have been neglecting.  But we will follow in a discussion as Jaquline suggests. 

Amit Garg_1:

One report suggested 59% of internet users in India do that using a mobile phone ONLY (no PC access)

Jo Colley:

Interested in both mobile content and mobile tools and their contextualised interaction in this regard - yes needs more time to discuss

Agustin_1:

if you're in the city is easier communication for rural coverage is sometimes complicated by the coverage

Agustin_1:

Tablets are the future notebook to have everything well organized studies, tasks and other

Me:

Differences between rural and urban is not limited to coverage but extend to the sohistication of the device as well as that of the users. Teir differing needs informed by their context linking to the nature of the services they require to access.

Agustin_1:

Yes, but there is the same coverura in some areas and other

carolina_1:

:P

Me:

Agreed - it is a major limiting factor

carolina_1:

(then come hrs of traffic)

Helga_1:

That is what I mean regarding kids becoming inventors. In this case teaching teachers.

Helga_1:

Yeah for Pretoria!

ET_Russell:

The end user becomes a 'mobile journalist"= storyteller= ownership

Agustin_1:

I think the phone should not be used in the classroom, as only outside support

Agustin_1:

extracurricular activities to motivate them to study

carolina_1:

Yes

carolina_1:

ok � 

Jo Colley:

good for quick revision and also for pre learning highlighting key points

Me:

This is an interesting perspective, however, a mobile phone in is a very powerful technology enabling personalised learning and creates an avenue of access where there is no other means to connect to resources. It can also enhance and extend any learning scenario.  

Jo Colley:

I agree - useful in many contexts should not be limited

Amit Garg_1:

I agree too...the use if limited by or imagination at the moment

Amit Garg_1:

'is' not  'if' :-)

Laurence Lachapelle:

Phones can be used in the classroom in an active learning context, as a support for information gathering in learning activities. We do it already with laptops and computers, so why not phones? ANother discussion for later, I suppose... �

Lorraine:

I would love this slide 

Laurence Lachapelle:

Phones can also be used instead of clickers to answer surveys.

carolina_1:

There is not ONE way of learning. Since immemorial times, we can say we are mobile, and we always have been learning. Otherwise we wouldn't be what we are. The difference with the digital technology is that the physical boundaries are broken.  

carolina_1:

That brings us to a complete new set-up, which we have self-created. 

Jo Colley:

also changes the relationship with the educator and the power relationships 

carolina_1:

that is what makes this SO INTERESTING =) 

Jo Colley:

yes indeed!

Helga_1:

Mobile makes learning an experience.

Me:

The curriculumwill be used to infrom the work of International Training Centre of the ILO is based in Turin, it's the largest training centre of the United Nations System

carolina_1:

yes

carolina_1:

YES

carolina_1:

=) 

ET_Russell:

Agree...Know your end user.

Jo Colley:

however sometimes more than one type  especially if you create an app

Jo Colley:

ypu can't always know who will use your content 

carolina_1:

Even if Adele is on a computer, thanks to a mobile learning infrastructure, some of us are listening in laptops, or tablets, or smart phones. Thanks to the networks we can be the whole world in one virtual room. That is amazing and "new" in human history. 

Me:

We will also need to keep in mind that CULTURE also informs all aspects of the implementation of any mobile curriculum..

Jo Colley:

It's actually fantastic to take part in a discussion like this

Jo Colley:

and still be looking out of my own window

carolina_1:

learning is an experience always, even if it is mobile or not mobile, imho. What digital technology offers, it opens opportunities to all of us. 

Me:

Wanted to start in a behaviouristic way and gently move them along to a more constructuvust approach to their teaching and learning but it did not work out that way.

carolina_1:

as we able to chat together here, from Argentina, UK, SA, Malasya, etc. 

Annamaria_3:

Italy too... �

carolina_1:

@Jacqueline,  matter to discuss the exact aim of the project but later. 

Me:

"Earn-as-you-learn" approach  to encourage participation in teachers in teh adoption of technology

Angeles Castro_1:

�

Jo Colley:

big issue everywhere to get teacher buy in

Me:

@carolina - sure we will connect�

Jo Colley:

thank you very much 

Laurence Lachapelle:

�

Annamaria_3:

�

Me:

THANK YOU � - can you open the mike

Lutz Siemer_1:

thanks

carolina_1:

=) *CLAP* CLAP * CLAP*

ET_Russell:

Jacqueline and Adele love your culture behavioural change and Adele the concept of earn-as you-learn.  Very relevant to Indigenous communities in Australia.  Not just giving technology away but getting end user and community to own it

Angeles Castro_1:

thanks :-)

Helga_1:

Thank you Adel!

Gissy:

Thanks!

Nemir:

Very informative and useful !

Lorraine:

thank you... �

Lorraine:

will the ppt be posted? 

Nemir:

Thanks! :-)

Gissy:

I was about to ask that

Gissy:

Thank you

Lorraine:

ok �

Lorraine:

much appreciated!

Me:

Can you give some more clarity on what will happen in future workshops to refine the curriculum

Lutz Siemer_1:

can you give more examples of earn as you learn

Lorraine:

for "earn as you learn" do you have them use the technology while you are teaching?  or after?

Me:

Earn-as-you-learn rewards range from airtime to new earphones etc but it is linked to enable greater participation

Irma_1:

Do you have more information about the proyect you are working and what kind of participation we can have

ET_Russell:

The challenge we have with Indigenous communities is that we have historically just gone in and GIVE, GIVE AND GIVE.  No consideration to culture, or engaging with Elders so the Indigenous Leaders lead the community...Therefore, the community is responsible, therfore sustainability.  

Me:

New cover for your device, extra sd card/flasdisk

Helga_1:

That is what I also experienced. Dont give it without ownership from them.

Me:

All must be earned through DEMONSTRATED learning

Me:

enabling teachers to get to the next level of participation

Me:

It reinforces the continous change in teaching practices

Adele Botha:

6000

Adele Botha:

25

Adele Botha:

rural 

Adele Botha:

abo...@csir.co.za

Me:

later the reward is in the increased participation and no longer on the concrete reward

carolina_1:

@ET_Russell, as I am designer, and I design a lot to different context, my advice is before you give, listen. 

Me:

Yes - this is an universal approach

carolina_1:

sorry! it was from the indigenious ppeople up there sorry. 

ET_Russell:

Co creation...100% agree.

Adele Botha:

living labs

Me:

co-creation and local ownership encouraged to support sustainibility

Helga_1:

carolina says listen and I agree with that. The curriculum should be adapted to the environment and I think that is what you have been saying Adel.

Me:

That is why the curriculum is a framework and would need to be elaborated and contextualized

Me:

No one size fits all solution here

Helga_1:

That makes it mobile and flexible

Adele Botha:

Walk the talk

Adele Botha:

LEARNING

Me:

The framework also provides structure to the conversations in curriculum development

ET_Russell:

Example in Australia from a wonderful Indigenous Teacher is 'PD in a box"contact  Theresa Feletar

ET_Russell:

http://www.learningplace.com.au/deliver/content.asp?pid=44531

and yes will send you more details.

Adele Botha:

abo...@csir.co.za

Me:

join the google discussions and participate in the google doc

Me:

THANK YOU ADELE

Adele Botha:

Thank you all!

ET_Russell:

Thank you

Me:

Time for Tea �

Helga_1:

Great stuff Adele

Tuulia:

Thank you

Gissy:

�

Lutz Siemer_1:

time for dinner Thank you

Lorraine:

9AM here in BC Canada

carolina_1:

*** GREAT *** CLAPS *** CLAPS ****

carolina_1:

you were great! 

Annamaria_3:

Thank you again �

Gissy:

Thanks a lot, have a great evening

Adele Botha:

Thank you all!!

Lorraine:

thank you �  clap clap clap

ajomonzo:

thank you very much

Adele Botha:

And a silent clap for INGE =)

Irma_1:

Thanks, I have to live. Its 1 pm in Argentina

Gissy:

Yep!

Lutz Siemer_1:

Yep Inge does a great job

carolina_1:

Thank you! and we keep in touch *CLAP* CLAP* 

Adele Botha:

Thank you all so much

samsiah_1:

Thank you Adele. 

[ET_Russell]

Briliant!

Well done team!

ET_Russell (Elizabeth)

[Ignatia/Inge de Waard]

You are wonderful Jacqueline, thanks for sharing! Am working on reformatting the recording for distribution later on today.

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[Adele Botha]

Thank you girls!

VERY special to Carolina and Jacqueline that kept the back conversations going in such an informative way.