API SMS

[Benoit LIETAER]

As a convinced and happy Viking, I am only missing one feature: the ability of sending SMS over/through internet (service proposed by many other operators) 
Since I am better with a keyboard than with a phone in order to write SMS, I would like to develop a small python, php or script to send SMS from a computer (most likely under Linux..), without having my GSM connected on USB. Is it something that is provided by the Mobile Viking API ? I guess I need to authenticate, configure a SMS relay and send the message...

I understand the risk of flooding/scam/spam while opening such an API, but I guess limitations/autentication should provide here enough guarantee....right ?

Please let me know if this is something that exist and/or if you are OK that I develop it? 

[Jan Fabry]

Hello Benoit,

At the moment, we don't offer the ability to send sms'es via the website or the API. Like so many companies, I can't tell you much about the priorities and roadmap for our offerings, so I can't tell you if and when we will provide this.

If you want to automate sending sms'es you can go for the low-scale solution of a MV sim card in a sim box connected to a computer (or a simple smartphone with an app that listens for external commands?), or a contract with an existing sms provider. But this will not use the same number as your regular phone.

Greetings from Hasselt,

Jan Fabry

[Benoit LIETAER]

Halo Jan,

Thank you very much for your clear reply.

For large scale SMS massive (bombing) sending, I am indeed using a dedicated (MV) number with an USB dongle on a Linux/SmsTools server.

The point was to send SMS from my own number without having to use the GSM itself, but someone at MV indicated me the MightyText app/plugin (chrome/FF): it is just perfect for what I want ! (probably allowing another Android app-dev to access my whole life, but - hey - that's the price to pay, right !? ;o)

Gr. from Zaventem !

Cheers,

Ben

[Steven Reekmans]

Hello Benoit,

We as MV devs also want this feature and have been requesting this for quite a while now. 

But as you know, we are an MVNO, and thus are dependent on our own provider.

If they don't provide this feature, we can't provide it to our awesome vikings.

The Mightytext app is really a good way to go, I personally have used it a while ago.

And for one of our internal hackprojects we also used the app, you can have fun with that one for sure.

Cheers,

Steven Reekmans

Software Engineer

Mobile Vikings

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[martijn cielen]

It's been a long time since I used it, but there used to be a tool with which you could send an sms if you had a modem and the number of the smsc. Something like that should still be possible, no?

[Julien Delnatte]

Is there still no way to send sms via internet through the Mobile Viking API?

I'm building my own domotic box and I would like my house send sms to my phone without having to pay for another SIM card,...

[Benoit LIETAER]

Hello Julien,

MightyText really did the trick for me (I hate sending SMS with a (smart)phone) 

Now for SMS server, I am using smstools (in Linux) + a stupid SMS modem (USB dongle, Huawei, or SiemensTC35)

And I guess another SIM card should be free...

[Pieter Danckaert]

Hello

You can also use a service like Clickatell. I use it together with my NAS and you can verify your number as the number you're sending from. 

Pieter

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[matthieu...@gmail.com]

Steven, Jan,

Is it legal to send bulk automated SMS from SIM cards with a Smartphone or SIM box server?

When I read the Terms of Service of SIM cards (of MV but of any other operator like Proximus/Base/Mobistar), it seems it definitily isn't allowed.

ToS of Mobile Viking :
Article 9
[...] Are already not considered normal use (non - exhaustive list): [...]
[...] use in a way that differs significantly from the averages of the various customers of the Services in the areas of frequency, distribution among the different types types of communication (ie. telephone, voice, data transmission, SMS, ...) or connection time; [...]

ToS of Base (unlimited sms offer) :
To be able to guarantee optimal terms and conditions of use for you, our unlimited offers are exclusively restricted to normal personal and private use. [...]

Your use will, for example, be deemed fraudulent in the following cases: [...]

- You send more than 350 text messages a day and/or 10.000 text messages a month; [...]

And so on... they all have in common the "normal and private use", Proximus even had a limit of 250 recepients maximum a month.
When you do bulk SMS, I'm quite sure this is not a normal usage ; especially in the case of bulk SMS to different recipients.

I'm using now a MV SIM card for bulk SMS even before I got aware of the ToS.

As you're software engineers working at MV, do you know if there is a possibility that my unusual usage of SMS can get noticed? ; e.g. could there be any algorithm that checks the number of different recipients per month an SMS has been sent to, or the number of SMS sent per month (I'm rather worried about the former: amount of different recipients per month).

Also, MV is using the SMSC of Base, so it would be interesting to know if something is in place at Base's side.

Let's say I send 2000 SMS per month with a MV SIM card, it costs me 15 €. If I use a third party SMS gateway like Clickatell & co (let's take an average of 0,07 € /SMS), this would cost me 140 €, so I'm doing huge savings as you can notice. If I use the SMS API of an operator like Proximis or Mobistar, then it will be even more expensive.

[Koen Delvaux]

All 3 telco's have fraud detection algorithms in place, which will flag sims for unauthorised use. Most focus on detecting massive fraud (e.g. 1000+ sims activated to do automated actions), but it's not unlikely that indivudual sims with a vert high deviation from normal usage patterns get blocked automatically.
Better give a call to Paratel (cmtelecom.be) or use a cheaper Russian bulk sms provider, if you're not too concerned with reputation.

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