Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Anki Vs. Mnemosyne?

[Michael Campbell]

One big difference is that mnemo is day-based.  You will not see the same card twice on the same day (modulo cramming or learning ahead of course).  I believe Anki has sub-day granularity, which I *instinctively* like, but could never find a practical use for. 

What are your difficulties with Anki, if I may ask?

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Zak Gottlieb <zngot...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there,

I've recently started using Anki, but I'm having quite a bit of difficulty working my around it. Is there anyone who might be able to enumerate the main differences between Ankin and Mnemosyne? Does Mnemosyne use the same Supermemo SM2 algorithm, for example, or a different one altogether? 

Any guidance here is much appreciated. 

Thanks in advance,

Zak

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[Peter Bienstman]

Mnemosyne is also based on SM 2.

Cheers,

Peter

[Zak Gottlieb]

Thanks both. I just find the user interface very clunky, and this is after the new version was released - I never seem to be able to do what I want in terms of adding/removing tags etc. I've also experienced quite a few bugs that have held up my learning. But anyway, it adds too much complication, whereas it seems Mnemosyne neatly compartmentalizes this into plugins.

One major advantage it does have, however - at least now - is an iPhone app, which is very useful for me to learn on the go. Does anyone know if there are plans afoot for Mnemosyne to have one? I'd certainly pay for it, as I paid about 17 GBP for the Anki one. 

On Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:31:14 AM UTC+1, Michael wrote:

One big difference is that mnemo is day-based.  You will not see the same card twice on the same day (modulo cramming or learning ahead of course).  I believe Anki has sub-day granularity, which I *instinctively* like, but could never find a practical use for. 

What are your difficulties with Anki, if I may ask?

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Zak Gottlieb <zngot...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there,

I've recently started using Anki, but I'm having quite a bit of difficulty working my around it. Is there anyone who might be able to enumerate the main differences between Ankin and Mnemosyne? Does Mnemosyne use the same Supermemo SM2 algorithm, for example, or a different one altogether? 

Any guidance here is much appreciated. 

Thanks in advance,

Zak

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[Michael Campbell]

Unfortunately I'm an unabashed Android fanboy so what I know about iPhone's ecosystem would fit in a very small thimble.

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[Peter Bienstman]

Hi,

For Mnemosyne, I really try very hard to make the UI as streamlined as
possible, so thanks for noticing :-)

As for review on iPhone, one thing you can currently do is run the
bundled 'mnemosyne-webserver' app on your desktop, and then you can
review using a browser on your iphone if you're connected to your home
network.

My plans for next year are starting on a generic off-line mobile
client using JS and html5, which will then hopefully work both for
Android, iPhone, Windows Phone, ...

Peter

Citeren Zak Gottlieb <zngot...@gmail.com>:

> Thanks both. I just find the user interface very clunky, and this is after
> the new version was released - I never seem to be able to do what I want in
> terms of adding/removing tags etc. I've also experienced quite a few bugs
> that have held up my learning. But anyway, it adds too much complication,
> whereas it seems Mnemosyne neatly compartmentalizes this into plugins.
>
> One major advantage it does have, however - at least now - is an iPhone
> app, which is very useful for me to learn on the go. Does anyone know if
> there are plans afoot for Mnemosyne to have one? I'd certainly pay for it,
> as I paid about 17 GBP for the Anki one.
>
> On Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:31:14 AM UTC+1, Michael wrote:
>>
>> One big difference is that mnemo is day-based. You will not see the same
>> card twice on the same day (modulo cramming or learning ahead of course).
>> I believe Anki has sub-day granularity, which I *instinctively* like, but
>> could never find a practical use for.
>>
>> What are your difficulties with Anki, if I may ask?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Zak Gottlieb

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>> > wrote:
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>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I've recently started using Anki, but I'm having quite a bit of
>>> difficulty working my around it. Is there anyone who might be able to
>>> enumerate the main differences between Ankin and Mnemosyne? Does Mnemosyne
>>> use the same Supermemo SM2 algorithm, for example, or a different one
>>> altogether?
>>>
>>> Any guidance here is much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Zak
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[Zak Gottlieb]

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the update. I'm going to see how I get on with Anki since I've already got all my decks set up etc, but once an iPhone client is set up, I'll definitely be checking in again with Mnemosyne to see how things are going. 

Keep up the good work!

Zak

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[pharmtech]

On Nov 29, 9:09 am, Zak Gottlieb <zngottl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>But anyway, it adds too much complication,
> whereas it seems Mnemosyne neatly compartmentalizes this into plugins.

I like Anki's templating feature which abstracts data from card
layout.

But, the new v2 seems too esoteric for my tastes. For the example, the
browser is like a super browser of all decks, tags, etc. A lot of
noise when all I want to do is browse the current deck. It's just a
way of approaching things which, to me, doesn't feel intuitive. I go
into the browser and it doesn't default to browsing the deck I'm
viewing. And, it has a zillion tags that aren't related to the deck
I'm viewing. It's gonzo powerful... but I just want to browse the deck
I'm viewing, not the universe.

I get the same feeling about the distinction between "learning" and
"review" modes. To me, this seems like an arbitrary way of dispensing
of sub-day scheduling. If the interval could be in sub-day units, then
"reviewing" would be one *continuum* from new cards which need to be
reviewed more frequently (scheduled in 10 minutes, 20, 60, 200) and
finally growing beyond the day-sized boundary (1440).

Losing sub-day granularity has apparently had an unintended
consequence. Cards are constantly displayed in order added because
there is no sub-day ordering to maintain some randomness.

I don't think plugins are a panacea however. That can turn into
nightmare of dependencies, and time spent experimenting with plugins.
For example, I can't imagine a use case where templating wouldn't be
useful. So, implementing it as a plugin seems needless burdening of
the introduction process, discovering and installing what is
essentially a universal plugin.

[Peter Bienstman]

You're welcome!

On 01/06/2013 03:32 AM, jamesob...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thank you thank you thank you.
>
> Even without the iPhone app, what you guys have done for us is SO appreciated. Mobile capability will be amazing.

[willi...@gmail.com]

I know you use the apple philosophy: no release dates announcements etc.. But could you maybe share a little about the progress?

Thanks!

[Peter Bienstman]

I share a lot about progress on our Google plus page (see our website for links).

Check it out!

Peter