Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty)

[Dougie Nisbet]

Just a quick heads-up if you're thinking of upgrading Ubuntu to 11.04.
It has broken mnemosyne for me. I'm not going to track it down as I'm a
bit fed up with Ubuntu nowadays anyway and I'm going to go back to
Debian rather than invest time investigating.

Dougie

[George Salt]

I encountered the same problem running Kubuntu (a variant of Ubuntu).  I tracked it down to an upgrade of a python package (python-sip).  Apparently the version of mnemosyne in the repository is built against the older version.  Deprecating  python-sip to 4.10  solves the problem.  The Kubuntu team confirmed the bug but assigned it a lower priority.

Another approach would be to build your own executable from source code.

GS

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Dougie Nisbet <substa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just a quick heads-up if you're thinking of upgrading Ubuntu to 11.04. It has broken mnemosyne for me. I'm not going to track it down as I'm a bit fed up with Ubuntu nowadays anyway and I'm going to go back to Debian rather than invest time investigating.

Dougie

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[mzatanoskas]

Thanks for the heads up and the solution.

I've just installed natty on a new laptop and am installing mnemosyne
from the ubuntu software center as I write. I'm quite surprised that
mnemosyne is still available from the software center if it doesn't
actually work...

Anyway I was wondering how I would go about deprecating python-sip to
4.10 or build the executable from source code? Which approach is best,
easiest?

Thanks for any suggestions.

M

[mzatanoskas]

Sorry for the double "post" as it were, I forgot to ask, what exactly
is broken in mnemosyne in natty?

[Peter Bienstman]

I'm not involved in packaging for Ubuntu :-)

Building from source is a matter of downloading the tgz file,
extracting it and typing 'sudo python setup.py install'

Cheers,

Peter
Quoting mzatanoskas <mzata...@googlemail.com>:

[mzatanoskas]

Fair enough!

Building from source sounds pretty simple, I installed mnemosyne from
the ubuntu software center and it seems to be working though, so I was
just wondering what was supposed to be broken? I don't particularly
want to use it for a couple of weeks and then lose all my repetitions,
but then again if I build from source I'm quite likely to do something
stupid and build it wrong, so I don't want to do that if I dont have
to.

M

On May 22, 6:16 am, "Peter Bienstman" <Peter.Bienst...@UGent.be>
wrote:

> I'm not involved in packaging for Ubuntu :-)
>
> Building from source is a matter of downloading the tgz file,  
> extracting it and typing 'sudo python setup.py install'
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter

[Dougie Nisbet]

On 22/05/2011 15:20, mzatanoskas wrote:
> Building from source sounds pretty simple, I installed mnemosyne from
> the ubuntu software center and it seems to be working though, so I was
> just wondering what was supposed to be broken?

I couldn't get it to run at all when I tried natty several weeks ago.
However it was still in beta so things may now be fixed. If you can run
it then perhaps it's been sorted now. I'm now running Linux Mint 10 and
mnemosyne runs fine on that.

[mzatanoskas]

Ok thanks, it seems to be running ok now so I guess they fixed it.

Out of interest and completely off topic, why did you switch from
ubuntu to mint?

M.

[Peter Bienstman]

Quoting mzatanoskas <mzata...@googlemail.com>:

> Fair enough!
>
> Building from source sounds pretty simple, I installed mnemosyne from
> the ubuntu software center and it seems to be working though, so I was
> just wondering what was supposed to be broken?

Again, I'm not involved with the packaging of Mnemosyne for Ubuntu, so
I wouldn't know...

If you're afraid to lose your data, just do regular backups of your
.mnemosyne directory.

Cheers,

Peter

[Dougie Nisbet]

On 22/05/2011 23:41, mzatanoskas wrote:
> Out of interest and completely off topic, why did you switch from
> ubuntu to mint?
>

well as it's off-topic I'll keep it brief.

Ubuntu is fine and mint is based on Ubuntu anyway. But Ubuntu is getting
glitzier and snazzier all the time and I don't like the new default
'Unity' desktop. Mint is a bit cleaner, simpler and more elegant to me.
But it's largely subjective. Just as I prefer Linux to Microsoft doesn't
mean I'm anti-microsoft, I just don't care for it very much, and I've
never worried overly about rationalising why. I prefer the command-line
over windows, and short-cuts to mouse-clicks. I will probably, at some
point, go back to a simple stable Debian based install.

Dougie

[mzatanoskas]

Gotcha, thanks. I'm always interested to know what different distros
are like but I don't have the time or the patience to try them out
myself!

M.

[Dougie Nisbet]

Yes, as time goes on, I'm more of an end-user than an under-the-hood
tinkerer, and looking for a stable platform for my apps that isn't too
dated that it won't run them at all, but not so bleeding edge that it
just feels like glitz and eye-candy and a brooding cauldron of instability.

So when Peter announces that mnemosyne 2 is on its way (see what I did
there :-) ), I'm in no rush for the alpha, or the first beta, and will
just wait until it appears in the Mint repos and everyone else has found
all the bugs :). Linux Mint 'feels' about right for me. Not too showy or
bleeding edge and it doesn't try to impress me too much.

Dougie