Call for a new Mac maintainer for Mnemosyne

[Patrick Kenny]

Hello everyone,

I'm sorry that the Mac version of Mnemosyne has not been kept up to date with the Windows and Linux releases, and unfortunately I do not know when or if I will be able to get it up-to-date myself, so, after consultation with Peter, we'd like to announce we are looking for a new Mac maintainer.

If you have access to a Mac and know something about building software, we would highly appreciate your help.  If you're interested, please see my e-mail to the dev list for details.

Meanwhile, that unfortunately means we have to declare the Mac version unsupported for the time being.

Best,

Patrick

[Peter Bienstman]

Hi,

I would like to take the opportunity to thank Patrick again for all the work he did in the past, much appreciated!

Cheers,

Peter

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[Webster T]

Thanks for all your work, Patrick. I don't know you personally but I've benefitted a lot from Mnemoysne on mac. Bummer to hear Mnemosyne is currently unsupported though. Hopefully someone with the requisite knowledge will step forward. Out of all the SRS out there, Mnemoysne is by far the most usable, and as usability is a big reason why most mac users are mac users, it seems like there will be a significant portion of the srs using community who will now be underserved.

[Sven AERTS]

Thanks Patrick for all your energy and to where you've been able to bring things.

[David Bailey]

Maybe you could cross-compile it from Linux or Windows? I just found this after googling "os x cross compile linux." Doesn't seem to require having an existing Mac, just an Apple ID to download the Xcode SDK.

[Peter Bienstman]

Hi,

 

Compiling is not the problem, as Mnemosyne is written in Python which is interpreted.

 

In fact, running Mnemosyne on Mac by manually installing Python and the dependencies should work, but the problem is creating a one-click self-contained installer.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

 

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[btwe...@gmail.com]

Peter,
I just wanted to confirm that manually installing the dependencies does work. I'm up and running on Yosemite with Mnemosyne 2.3.4. I kind of muddled my way through it, since I'm not too familiar with some of the program dependencies/python package managers, but it's working fine now.

Here's what I did if anyone is interested. (Note: there are probably some unneeded steps here but I wanted to include everything I did). Feel free to point out the errors:

1. Install Homebrew
2. brew install pyqt (this and below commands are done from the terminal unless otherwise noted)
3. brew link --overwrite python
4. brew linkapps qt
5. cd ~
6. subl .bashrc (this open the .bashrc file in sublime; if you don't have sublime installed, just open it in your text editor of choice)
7. Paste this into the .bashrc file: PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages:$PYTHONPATH
8. pip2 install matplotlib (we're back in the terminal now)
9. curl https://bootstrap.pypa.io/ez_setup.py -o - | python
10. easy_install cherrypy
11. easy_install webob
12. Now download the Linux distro of Mnemosyne-2.3.4, unpack, and navigate to that directory in your terminal
13. python setup.py install
14. Now navigate out of that folder, to any other folder on your machine
15. From the terminal, run this command: mnemosyne

Oh yes..I already had python installed on my machine, so for those of you who don't you may have to run "brew install python" before step two.

Anyway, hope someone finds this helpful. Good luck and let me know if I can help with anything.

[Peter Bienstman]

Hi,

Very useful info, I'll put this on our website!

Thanks,

Peter

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[Devin Howard]

I was able to build 2.3.4 as an app on Yosemite last night. Here's my launchpad branch, and here's a link to the built app: Mnemosyne.osx.zip

Note: I give 0 guarantees as to the quality of  the build. I would be willing to help with problems others have running it though.

[Peter Bienstman]

Great, thanks!

 

It would be good if a few people can test this out, so that we can officially release it.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

 

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I was able to build 2.3.4 as an app on Yosemite last night. Here's my launchpad branch, and here's a link to the built app: Mnemosyne.osx.zip

 

Note: I give 0 guarantees as to the quality of  the build. I would be willing to help with problems others have running it though.

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[hen...@giaever.com]

Great Devin!

My MacBook pro is on OS X 10.9.5 (13F34) El Capitan

(I am currently running Mnemosyne 2.2.1)

For the upgrade I did this:
1. Downloaded Mnemosyne.osx.zip
2. Moved zip to my Mnemomsyne folder in Dropbox
3. I did not uninstall or delete anything
4. Unpacked the zip
5. Opened Mnemosyne
6. Looked good, but:
- The "About Mnemosyne" did not open for a long time (more than 30 sec)
- When browsing cards (CtrlB) the "About-info appeared (it was 2.3.4) and an Error message: "Database error: Driver not loaded Driver not loaded"

I upacked zip in two different locations, so now I have 2.2.1 and two versions of 2.3.4 on my Mac...

Helpful info? Any advice?

BR

Henrik

[Devin Howard]

I've noticed a similar problem with the "About Mnemosyne", and not just on versions I built. I'm not sure what causes that

It looks like I get the same "Database error" when hitting Command B, so probably I've missed including one of the drivers. I can see if I can add that in this weekend. I'm assuming it's the sqlite drivers?

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[Peter Bienstman]

Indeed, the qt sqlite driver. You also might want to check if you included the drivers for the different image formats.

Cheers,

Peter

[hen...@giaever.com]

Good morning
Thanks for quick responses.

How do I best remove the obsolete versions?
BR

[Devin Howard]

Quick update: I've figured out how to include qt plugins properly with py2app, so I should have a solid app working in the next hour or so.

Henrik, in answer to your question, you can delete (Move to Trash) any Mnemosyne.app or Mnemosyne-2.3.4.app folders you find on your computer, leaving whichever version you want to keep there. Your data is stored in /Users/Henrik/Library/Mnemosyne/, and any version of the app will access it. Of course, that means that the 2.3.4 will mangle your 2.2.1 database! I've done this a few times by mistake in my Mnemosyne fun-times in the past few weeks. Luckily there are database backups in the Library/Mnemosyne directory.

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[Devin Howard]

OK I finally figured out how to properly include sqlite and the image formats. I haven't tested the images myself, since I don't have any cards with images nor understand how to add them, but I did test and sqlite was working. As it turns out on further reading, this was the major problem Patrick had in the past.

It would be great if someone could test image formats. "About Mnemosyne" is also really slow, but I think that's a deeper issue haha.

My launchpad branch with build instructions: https://code.launchpad.net/~devin-g/mnemosyne-proj/mnemosyne-proj

Direct link to the built app (in a fancy dmg and everything!): http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~devin-g/+junk/mnemosyneapp2.3.4/download/head:/mnemosyne.dmg-20151104144705-n788pgdtbh4k4cqy-1/Mnemosyne.dmg

[hen...@giaever.com]

Devin, I am travelling this week, but will definitely try downloading again when I get home. Really looking forward to ver 2.3.4 since I am a big fan (addict, in fact) of Mnemosyne. Thanks also for clean-up-hints.

(I hope I am not the only one using Mnemosyne on Mac?? )

/ Henrik

[hen...@giaever.com]

Cleaned up files and installed 2.3.4 yesterday.
- Seemed to install well
- As you warned "About Mnemosyne" takes a long time to load
- 2.3.4 does not play sound-files.
. I was able to create a new card and link to sound file, but nothing to hear and no error message
- Images are displayed

So I went back to 2.2.1 for the time being.

/ Henrik

[Peter Bienstman]

Hi,

The sound system relies on mplayer being in your path. I guess it's not yet bundled, but perhaps installing it separately will help.

Strange that the about dialog takes so long, as it's the least resource intensive part of the software :-)

Peter

[Henrik in Oslo]

1. Installed MPlayer 

2. Still does not get sound

3. Guess I have a problem get the two applications in the same "path". Anybody now how I tweek that? My Mac seems to insist to create a virtual disk or smth for these two pieces of SW. See attached picture

Help?

/ Henrik

[Devin Howard]

I'll take a look at bundling mplayer as soon as I get a chance!

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[Devin Howard]

Hi Henrik (and anyone else reading)

I've bundled mplayer into 2.3.4, and there's an app dmg available here. I'd appreciate it if you could test it out again. Thanks!

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~devvmh/+junk/mnemosyneapp/download/head:/mnemosyne.dmg-20151104144705-n788pgdtbh4k4cqy-1/Mnemosyne.dmg

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On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 8:44:50 PM UTC+8, Devin Howard wrote:

> I've bundled mplayer into 2.3.4, and there's an app dmg available here. I'd appreciate it if you could test it out again. Thanks!

Thanks for doing this, I can finally switch between working on my computer and my phone!

[hen...@giaever.com]

Hi Devin
Tried again just now on a new "clean" MacBook Air. Unfortunately same problem: No sound.

/ Henrik

[El_Pablo]

Same here. No sound at all. I'm using ogg as my default format. I installed mplayer and tested it out with my media files, wokred fine. 

[Devin Howard]

I've been looking at how to properly bundle it,  but I'm not dedicating a lot of time to it. If I get a chance I'll fix it and post it up. It does work for me if I have mplayer installed separately via homebrew. 

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[El_Pablo]

Hi Davin

I actually did the same. I thought that installing mplayer through homebrew would fix the issue. Unfortunatelly it hasn't. My assumpton is that the mnemosyne built includes mplayer anyway, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway grate work so far! Finally I don't have to build it on my own. 

I'm happy to debugg it but somebody would need to support me as I don't have a lot of experience with python on OS X.

Cheers 

Tomasz

On Monday, 28 December 2015 06:26:37 UTC+1, Devin Howard wrote:

I've been looking at how to properly bundle it,  but I'm not dedicating a lot of time to it. If I get a chance I'll fix it and post it up. It does work for me if I have mplayer installed separately via homebrew. 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015, 12:27 AM El_Pablo <tomasz...@gmail.com> wrote:

Same here. No sound at all. I'm using ogg as my default format. I installed mplayer and tested it out with my media files, wokred fine. 

On Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:17:57 UTC+1, hen...@giaever.com wrote:

søndag 29. november 2015 13.44.50 UTC+1 skrev Devin Howard følgende:
> Hi Henrik (and anyone else reading)
>
>
> I've bundled mplayer into 2.3.4, and there's an app dmg available here. I'd appreciate it if you could test it out again. Thanks!
>
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> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~devvmh/+junk/mnemosyneapp/download/head:/mnemosyne.dmg-20151104144705-n788pgdtbh4k4cqy-1/Mnemosyne.dmg

Hi Devin
Tried again just now on a new "clean" MacBook Air. Unfortunately same problem: No sound.

/ Henrik

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[Devin Howard]

Huh! That's annoying

This particular issue is with the operating system and not with Python (I believe). What's included in the built 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 is a built version of mplayer (just the binary file). if that file doesn't work, perhaps it's an incompatibility with my build machine and your machine.

If you open Console.app, which outputs any errors that might show up, and send any log information you can find directly to my email, that would definitely help.

The other interesting test would be to open a terminal and run /Applications/Mnemosyne.app/Contents/Resources/mplayer. If it has output or any errors, they would help me out too. (I don't have Mnemosyne on the computer I'm writing this from, so I may have put the wrong path to the bundled mplayer binary. Right-clicking on Mnemosyne.app and using Show Package Contents should help you browse and find where it actually is).

Feel free (anyone) to send me any more clues you find as to why the bundled mplayer isn't working, and when I find time I'll investigate further.

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:05 AM El_Pablo <tomasz...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Davin

I actually did the same. I thought that installing mplayer through homebrew would fix the issue. Unfortunatelly it hasn't. My assumpton is that the mnemosyne built includes mplayer anyway, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway grate work so far! Finally I don't have to build it on my own. 

I'm happy to debugg it but somebody would need to support me as I don't have a lot of experience with python on OS X.

Cheers 

Tomasz

On Monday, 28 December 2015 06:26:37 UTC+1, Devin Howard wrote:

I've been looking at how to properly bundle it,  but I'm not dedicating a lot of time to it. If I get a chance I'll fix it and post it up. It does work for me if I have mplayer installed separately via homebrew. 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015, 12:27 AM El_Pablo <tomasz...@gmail.com> wrote:

Same here. No sound at all. I'm using ogg as my default format. I installed mplayer and tested it out with my media files, wokred fine. 

On Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:17:57 UTC+1, hen...@giaever.com wrote:

søndag 29. november 2015 13.44.50 UTC+1 skrev Devin Howard følgende:
> Hi Henrik (and anyone else reading)
>
>
> I've bundled mplayer into 2.3.4, and there's an app dmg available here. I'd appreciate it if you could test it out again. Thanks!
>
>
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~devvmh/+junk/mnemosyneapp/download/head:/mnemosyne.dmg-20151104144705-n788pgdtbh4k4cqy-1/Mnemosyne.dmg

Hi Devin
Tried again just now on a new "clean" MacBook Air. Unfortunately same problem: No sound.

/ Henrik

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[El_Pablo]

Hi Devin

Please find below the console output:

29/12/15 07:45:38.856 Mnemosyne[83879]: WARNING: The Gestalt selector gestaltSystemVersion is returning 10.9.2 instead of 10.11.2. This is not a bug in Gestalt -- it is a documented limitation. Use NSProcessInfo's operatingSystemVersion property to get correct system version number.

Call location:

29/12/15 07:45:38.860 Mnemosyne[83879]: 0   CarbonCore                          0x00007fff9a81fc9b ___Gestalt_SystemVersion_block_invoke + 113

29/12/15 07:45:38.860 Mnemosyne[83879]: 1   libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff9067633f _dispatch_client_callout + 8

29/12/15 07:45:38.860 Mnemosyne[83879]: 2   libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff90676237 dispatch_once_f + 67

29/12/15 07:45:38.860 Mnemosyne[83879]: 3   CarbonCore                          0x00007fff9a7abb47 _Gestalt_SystemVersion + 987

29/12/15 07:45:38.860 Mnemosyne[83879]: 4   CarbonCore                          0x00007fff9a7aaddb Gestalt + 139

29/12/15 07:45:38.860 Mnemosyne[83879]: 5   QtCore                              0x0000000107b321ce _ZN19QProcessEnvironment17systemEnvironmentEv + 31744

29/12/15 07:45:38.860 Mnemosyne[83879]: 6   QtCore                              0x0000000107b17c64 _ZN9QSettingsC1ERK7QStringS2_P7QObject + 34

29/12/15 07:45:40.157 Mnemosyne[83879]: libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile

29/12/15 07:45:40.158 Mnemosyne[83879]: libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile

29/12/15 07:45:40.158 Mnemosyne[83879]: libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile

29/12/15 07:45:40.158 Mnemosyne[83879]: libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile

29/12/15 07:45:40.159 Mnemosyne[83879]: libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile

I suppose there is nothing related to the audio subsytem.

I tried to play one audio file through the mplayer included in the mnemosyne and it worked fine:

$ pwd

/Applications/Mnemosyne.app/Contents/Resources

$ mplayer /Volumes/External/Dropbox/Mnemosyne2/.mnemosyne/default.db_media/elements/02.ogg 

MPlayer 1.2-4.2.1 (C) 2000-2015 MPlayer Team

Can't init Apple Remote.

Playing /Volumes/External/Dropbox/Mnemosyne2/.mnemosyne/default.db_media/elements/02.ogg.

libavformat version 56.40.101 (internal)

libavformat file format detected.

[lavf] stream 0: audio (vorbis), -aid 0

Load subtitles in /Volumes/External/Dropbox/Mnemosyne2/.mnemosyne/default.db_media/elements/

==========================================================================

Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders

libavcodec version 56.60.100 (internal)

AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 1 ch, floatle, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000->176400)

Selected audio codec: [ffvorbis] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Vorbis)

==========================================================================

2015-12-29 07:51:53.730 mplayer[83896:2352564] 07:51:53.729 WARNING:  140: This application, or a library it uses, is using the deprecated Carbon Component Manager for hosting Audio Units. Support for this will be removed in a future release. Also, this makes the host incompatible with version 3 audio units. Please transition to the API's in AudioComponent.h.

AO: [coreaudio] 44100Hz 1ch floatle (4 bytes per sample)

Video: no video

Starting playback...

A:   0.2 (00.1) of 1.1 (01.1)  0.2% 

Exiting... (End of file)

I also (being naive) tried to start the Mnemosyne app from terminal with hope that it would throw some output to the console. Unfortunatelly no message has been displayed on the terminal screen. 

Cheers 

Tomasz

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[Devin Howard]

Hi Henrik, Tomasz, and El_Pablo

I believe I've found the issue. Give the app found at this link a try: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~devvmh/+junk/mnemosyne-app/download/head:/mnemosyne2.3.5.dmg-20151204111526-xcrjw2bm05kdeaun-1/Mnemosyne-2.3.5.dmg

If there are further problems let me know.

The issue was that Mnemosyne was trying to find a system-wide installed mplayer instead of running the bundled one. I've definitely fixed that... although some comments I've seen on these lists suggest there may be another problem too. Anyways, let me know if this doesn't fix it for you

Devin

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 5:00:04 PM UTC+8, Patrick Kenny wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm sorry that the Mac version of Mnemosyne has not been kept up to date with the Windows and Linux releases, and unfortunately I do not know when or if I will be able to get it up-to-date myself, so, after consultation with Peter, we'd like to announce we are looking for a new Mac maintainer.

If you have access to a Mac and know something about building software, we would highly appreciate your help.  If you're interested, please see my e-mail to the dev list for details.

[Henrik in Oslo]

Hi Devin,

That is great news! I am travelling at the moment, but will certainly test it as soon as I can. 

/ Henrik

[Henrik in Oslo]

Devin, 

Upgraded Mnemosyne to 2.3.5 on my MacBookPro and my MacBookAir today. Everything works fine, also the sound. Thank you! 

/ Best regards, Henrik in Oslo

[El_Pablo]

Hi Devid

Few days ago I did the upgrade and since then everything's been working like a charm. Finally after more than a year the sound works well with mnemosyne.

Thanks a lot for you support!

Regards

Tomasz