line-of-sight internet access? (transceiver in downtown mpls)

[Ed Bertsch]

I've heard that there are various providers of DSL speed or better, which
have wireless access if you have line of sight to the IDS or perhaps other
large-ish buildings in downtown Mpls.

Would be very curious to hear about the plans available, pricing, and any
experience folks have with these services. Is it a "service of last resort"
pricing model, or are reasonable deals (e.g. less than $100 a month) able to
be had?

[Mike H]

"Ed Bertsch" <E...@Bertsch.org> wrote in
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...

Check out http://www.sbwireless.net/

Not in Minneapolis, but all around it. Here is their coverage map:
http://www.sbwireless.net/maps/StoneBridge%20Area%20Map%2010%2002.JPG

[Ed Bertsch]

thank you very much. will see how it goes. their pricing seems reasonable.
would like to avoid the installation charge of course.

Installation/Activation Monthly Subscription Burst-able Speed

$349 $49
384 kbps

$499 $59
640 kbps

$499 $199
1.0 Mbps

$699 $699
1.544 Mbps (T-1)

"Mike H" <miketoni.arggg.@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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[Dan Patch]

the guy barely called me back - he called once then 6 months later emailed
asking how it's going...
"Ed Bertsch" <E...@Bertsch.org> wrote in message
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[Ed Bertsch]

I called them but they don't service the area I was interested in (White
Bear Lake/Dellwood)

They will come to your area if you bring them enough customers. For example,
5 business accounts or 15 residential accounts. So if you're in a strip mall
or something like that and know 4 or 5 other guys there who are looking for
some options, you could go to these guys and they will put up a mini-tower
for you.

that's what he said, anyway.

"Dan Patch" <sony...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Ed Bertsch]

1 gb per day is about 33 megs per day.
that's just plain silly.

these folks are a mickey mouse operation, if what you read below is true.

thanks for the head's up.

"Werner" <wer...@cubbyhole.com> wrote in message
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> In mn.general Ed Bertsch <E...@Bertsch.org> wrote:
> > They will come to your area if you bring them enough customers. For
example,
> > 5 business accounts or 15 residential accounts. So if you're in a strip
mall
> > or something like that and know 4 or 5 other guys there who are looking
for
> > some options, you could go to these guys and they will put up a
mini-tower
> > for you.
>

> They also have a bandwidth cap of 1gb/mo with each additional gb at
> $50.00. You also can't run servers, and they limit you to 1 computer,
> but are currently waiving the fee for up to 4.
>
> They claim they are a better deal than DSL/Cable. I didn't really think
> so. Not to mention, about $850 for startup equipment.
>
> If they were my only highspeed choice, I'd probably stay with dialup.
>
> --
> I never did give anybody hell.
> I just told the truth and they thought it was hell.
> Harry S. Truman

[Mike H]

"Ed Bertsch" <E...@Bertsch.org> wrote in

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> 1 gb per day is about 33 megs per day.
> that's just plain silly.
>
> these folks are a mickey mouse operation, if what you read below is
> true.

...

Most likely what it means is that they don't have the ability or the want
to subsidize a new customer base until they can reach critical mass in
their business plan.

It costs DirecTV and Dish Network nearly $400 for each new customer. There
are similar costs in any service that discounts the hardware up front in
hopes of making it up on montly/annual fees.

[Tim Honl]

The option that is availiable from the IDS is run by WorldCom. Supposedly,
you get the same Service Level Guarantee's as if it were a leased line.

A friend has a small consulting company and used this option to get high
speed for his client in Hudson. They had to put up a 70 foot tower for the
receiver, but that was the only major expense.

They have had one outage due to a lightning strike frying the modem, but
they were back up and running in under 3 hours. Not too shabby considering
the tech had at best a 1 hour drive through rush hour traffic to get there
and swap it out...

http://www.worldcom.com/us/products/access/broadband/wireless/

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[Ed Bertsch]

ok here's there scoop.

not a horrible deal if you have no other options. what I had in mind was
potentially to go the 1 megabit option and then try to sell wireless access
to my neighbors. much better latency than going the satellite route.

included in these fees are web hosting for up to 5 domains, total web space
10 megs - these hosted domains are on worldcom's bandwidth not your own. IIS
on w2k or else Linux running Apache. These are in a worldcom data center.

no adult content allowed and probably other content restrictions

dollars 1/2/3yr down up
contract speed speed
209/188/178 384 same 5 static ip
279/251/237 512 10 static ip
349/314/297 768 512 10 static ip
499/449/424 1000 512 15 static ip

installation and hardware usually $1000

1, 2 and 3 year contracts. 3 year waives install fee, the guy said

for MCI you call 866-926-6327

this sounds interesting.

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