What is the Best Employment Website?
Jerry
one is the most popular site used by employers?
Thanks!
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Jerry
John A. Weeks III
<aba66eb1-7dce-45a6...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Jerry <jerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering with all of the employment websites out there now, which
> one is the most popular site used by employers?
The site I see used most often is CareerBuilder. In addition, I
have gotten good leads off of Craig's List, and I have friends
who have had some success with Elance.com.
One problem that I hear folks running into right now is that, unless
you have some very unique skill sets, any time a job is advertised,
a hundred people apply for it. That means one of two things. First,
you have to do some to really stand out in a positive way. Second,
to put the odds in your favor, you need to hunt down opportunities
before they get advertised. That means doing some networking and
working your list of contacts.
It is a tough job market, but I do see people getting hired from
time to time. In fact, I recently got a new job, and it has turned
out to be the best job that I have had in the past decade.
-john-
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Jerry
> In article
> <aba66eb1-7dce-45a6-8598-f919af6f0...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Jerry <jerrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm wondering with all of the employment websites out there now, which
> > one is the most popular site used by employers?
>
> The site I see used most often is CareerBuilder. In addition, I
> have gotten good leads off of Craig's List, and I have friends
> who have had some success with Elance.com.
>
> One problem that I hear folks running into right now is that, unless
> you have some very unique skill sets, any time a job is advertised,
> a hundred people apply for it. That means one of two things. First,
> you have to do some to really stand out in a positive way. Second,
> to put the odds in your favor, you need to hunt down opportunities
> before they get advertised. That means doing some networking and
> working your list of contacts.
>
> It is a tough job market, but I do see people getting hired from
> time to time. In fact, I recently got a new job, and it has turned
> out to be the best job that I have had in the past decade.
Thanks John. I haven't seen Elance yet so I'll add that to my list of
sites.
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Jerry
Thomas T. Veldhouse
> I'm wondering with all of the employment websites out there now, which
> one is the most popular site used by employers?
>
There isn't one. Networking with peers is the best employment option. If
there was a best employement website, it wouldn't remain so, because it would
quickly become saturated and what would remain are the "hard to hire" types.
Sorry. There is nothing better than networking with your peers and pounding
the turf.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
catpandaddy
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <vel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jerry <jerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm wondering with all of the employment websites out there now, which
>> one is the most popular site used by employers?
>>
>
> There isn't one. Networking with peers is the best employment option. If
> there was a best employement website, it wouldn't remain so, because it
> would
> quickly become saturated and what would remain are the "hard to hire"
> types.
>
> Sorry. There is nothing better than networking with your peers and
> pounding
> the turf.
And if you don't have enough peers you end up S.O. of L. Whenever I get
caught flat-footed by an employment market downturn, I immediately
supplement my job-search efforts with as much volunteering as I can to be
sure there are no work gaps, and many times it's a way to develop skills
that were undertapped by the previous workplace.
Lutsen Lumberjack
> It is a tough job market, but I do see people getting hired from
> time to time. In fact, I recently got a new job, and it has turned
> out to be the best job that I have had in the past decade.
busing tables at the 90's, eh?
Lutsen Lumberjack
>
> And if you don't have enough peers you end up S.O. of L. Whenever I get
> caught flat-footed by an employment market downturn, I immediately
> supplement my job-search efforts with as much volunteering as I can to be
> sure there are no work gaps, and many times it's a way to develop skills
> that were undertapped by the previous workplace.
Why should it matter? I've been out of work 1.5 yrs and still get as
many rejects as I did when I first lost my job!
People who subscribe to this orwellian crap that tries to make the
Internet (like LinkedIn etc.) a part of "human nature" are
contributing a great deal to America's great social decline.
catpandaddy
"Lutsen Lumberjack" <lutsenlu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why should it matter? I've been out of work 1.5 yrs
Should anyone here be surprised?
catpandaddy
Whereas you will be busing tables when you're well /INTO/ your 90s.
Thomas T. Veldhouse
How old are you? I think, at least with professionals, it is easier, because
you can trade business cards, but honestly, many of those collect dust and get
lost over time. http://www.linkedin.com is a GREAT site for networking with
peers. I recommend you get on there and try to find people you know. List
your status as looking for work. If you left a positive impression with your
peers then perhaps it will pay off for you.
Thomas T. Veldhouse
No worries, the progressives will push a national welfare system once again
and he will get a stipend for sitting on his ass [I have no idea about his
circumstances and why he isn't working, for some, it is simply unfortunate,
but Mr. Lumberjack has jacked too many people in this group to get any
sympathy from me].
catpandaddy
> catpandaddy <c...@cat.pan.net> wrote:
>> caught flat-footed by an employment market downturn, I immediately
>> supplement my job-search efforts with as much volunteering as I can to be
>> sure there are no work gaps, and many times it's a way to develop skills
>> that were undertapped by the previous workplace.
>
> How old are you?
Not a matter of age in my case, more the old story of making a few early
missteps that went uncaught and snowballed over time. I'm not worried
though. There's a time for everything and a place for most everyone, and
it's never too late to take a new direction.
Thomas T. Veldhouse
> Not a matter of age in my case, more the old story of making a few early
> missteps that went uncaught and snowballed over time. I'm not worried
> though. There's a time for everything and a place for most everyone, and
> it's never too late to take a new direction.
>
A very good attitude indeed. That will get you further than just about
anything I think.
I only asked your age, because a lot of people have done light industrial
their entire life and so much of that hasn't had pay keep up with it
[competing against immigrants willing to work for less and with automation]
that you can suddenly find yourself without a marketable skillset. If you
were to say you were young, I would suggest considering a new career. If you
are older and were earning well, then the chances are good that the system let
you down and you had to give up everything ... which can damage attitude and
morale to say the least. You don't seem to be suffering from these ailments.
Good luck. I see no reason why you shouldn't setup a linked-in account though
and put in your working history. You might be VERY surprised who you know and
totally forgot about and find yourself a job just due to networking, no matter
what your skillset.
Jules
> Why should it matter? I've been out of work 1.5 yrs and still get as
> many rejects as I did when I first lost my job!
Do they stamp 'reject' on your forehead in big red letters?
Lutsen Lumberjack
> Not a matter of age in my case, more the old story of making a few early
> missteps that went uncaught and snowballed over time. I'm not worried
> though. There's a time for everything and a place for most everyone, and
> it's never too late to take a new direction.
Are you by any chance ... an unemployed musician?
catpandaddy
Nope, a microbiologist with astigmatism and pronounced farsightedness. ;-)
j/k
(If you don't get the joke, ask WebTV Pete for a few braincells)
John A. Weeks III
<7812e640-414f-4072...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Lutsen Lumberjack <lutsenlu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Would you like fries with that? Seriously, I am not going to rip
on anyone who flips burgers or waits tables. Any job that is done
with gusto is OK in my book.
Mike H
> I'm wondering with all of the employment websites out there now, which
> one is the most popular site used by employers?
>
For what kind of job? Technology related, I had my best luck with
Dice and Monster. I also found that if you are willing to do Contract
work, there are many more opportunities. After being laid off in the
middle of August, it took about 2 weeks of tweaking online resumes and
talking with recruiters and companies before I started doing some
interviews. By the start of my 4th week unemployed I had 2 offers on
the same day, and was actually working by the Wednesday of that week.
Both of those opportunities came through DICE and were/are Contract to
Hire.
The biggest difference, in leaving a job I was at for 2.5 years, to
finding a job in this economy is you won't find pay anywhere close to
what you were at unless your position is highly sought after and
highly specialized.
Also, as others I'm sure have said, If your skill set is not special
or somehow unique to set yourself apart from your peers, you'll find
it will require many interviews, and some luck. There is a lot of
people out there looking for work. I have some pretty specific
skills, that fortunately, people need, and there are not a lot of
folks that have them and are unemployed.
Mike H
> And if you don't have enough peers you end up S.O. of L. Whenever I get
> caught flat-footed by an employment market downturn, I immediately
> supplement my job-search efforts with as much volunteering as I can to be
> sure there are no work gaps, and many times it's a way to develop skills
> that were undertapped by the previous workplace.
I've always been interested by the no work gaps theory. My resume
doesn't even include the entire first half of my working life. I've
had some questions regarding, but I always wonder what is the big
deal?
catpandaddy
"Mike H" <mike8...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's impacted me some times more than others. Sorry to give a weak "it
depends" answer, but I guess it does.
John A. Weeks III
<799ecc0c-d5e8-41c5...@p33g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
Mike H <mike8...@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people view that as an indicator of how committed your and
how loyal you are. If you have more than 3 or 4 jobs, you could
be considered to be a "job hopper". If you have gaps, that could
mean that you leave employers in a lurch and then can't find
another job. Or you are lazy and don't look for a job.
About the only time that impacted me is when I was interviewing
with the US Post Office in the late 1990s. They wanted me to
account for every single day of time in my adult life, and
wanted me to give them the name, address, and phone number of
every supervisor I ever had. I had been doing project work
up until that point, so I had over 100 past supervisors. Some
of the companies had gone out of business, and some of these
jobs were out of state. It would have taken me a year to
do that and track down all these people. I guess that proves
the theory--I appear to be uncooperative when I refused to do
this.
I do much better at companies who ask a different question,
such as "can you fix the problem?" or "can you help us?".
When doing project work, I would often pick a target number for
income for the year, and then arrange to wrap up for the year
once I reached that number. That means I often had 2 or 3
months of vacation at the end of the year, but it showed up
as gaps in my resume. I had more than a few recruiters ask
me to edit my resume to eliminate the dates. Well, I refuse
to lie, so that also made me look like I was uncooperative.
Sorry, but my personal integrity is worth more to me than
getting a paycheck from some sleezeball contract house.
Doc O'Leary
"John A. Weeks III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
> Some people view that as an indicator of how committed your and
> how loyal you are. If you have more than 3 or 4 jobs, you could
> be considered to be a "job hopper". If you have gaps, that could
> mean that you leave employers in a lurch and then can't find
> another job. Or you are lazy and don't look for a job.
Keep in mind that this depends *a lot* on the types of jobs being done.
I'm mainly a contractor, and it is generally my preference to be brought
in on hard problems that need to be *solved*, not doing the same thing
day after day. Being a "job hopper" is, to an extent, a good thing for
me. Gaps are more reflections on what *employers* are doing than what
my ability is. Time between projects is often spent on pet projects,
too, so in some ways I have *more* things to show during "off" time
because I'm not limited to another company's confidentiality policies.
> I do much better at companies who ask a different question,
> such as "can you fix the problem?" or "can you help us?".
Yep. I *love* people who want to get something done. Some companies
just want to spend a budget or warm a seat or other unproductive
nonsense. It drives me bonkers to cash a paycheck but not accomplish
anything substantial with my time.
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