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Dilip Rathod - Native Systems Ltd

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:06:46 AM11/13/09
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Hi all,

A big thank you to Simon and the AppleStore Touchwood (Solihull) for hosting last night’s MMUG meet on Mac OS X server.

For those that came, could you please email me di...@nativesystems.co.uk some feedback below so that I may pass it on to the AppleStore.

Thanks again.

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Dilip Rathod - Apple Certified Support Professional
Native Systems Ltd - Phone 0121 743 0875
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Hi Dilip

Thank you very much for bringing the MMUG to Touchwood last night.  I hope the group found it useful and I certainly enjoyed running it.  Was the sound better with the mic?  As I mentioned last night, if you don't mind, could ask the group the following questions and send them back to me?  I'd really appreciate the feedback, it was the first session of it's kind, not just for Touchwood, but I believe, the UK.  It would be really useful to capture people's thoughts and improve it.  Also, I'll collect up the photos we took and send you them in a separate email.


What did you enjoy about the session?

What could have been better?

How did you find the Apple Store as a venue?

What other topics would you be interested in?

Any other comments?

Simon

graham thompson

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Nov 13, 2009, 11:16:06 AM11/13/09
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I thought Simon did a good job of explaining what a server did. I now have a vague idea. He did a very good job of pushing the Mini and I was starting to think of one as an entertainment centre until Ben told me that the software was another £399.
It was also interesting to compare the Mini with the recent guardian picture of a new server farm in Wiltshire, buried in a mine and claiming to use a third less energy than a typical data centre.
It is also interesting that when I slagged off the `Mail' at the post-MMUG-meet-banquet last night few disagreed with me. This morning I see it is giving the whole front page to telling MPs 

Alan Johnson has been told by MPs that he can and must halt the extradition of Gary McKinnon, who faces 60 years in jail for hacking into Pentagon and Nasa computers.

It can't be all bad!

Graham

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Daniel Rose

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Nov 13, 2009, 11:32:24 AM11/13/09
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I used to work in a data center like that. Fasthosts was the company, based in Gloucester. They look like dell poweredge servers from the back, but I could be wrong. We toyed with lots of ideas for alternatives to standard servers in an attempt to reduce heat production and electricity consumption. We even got a Linux build running on an iPod with apache as the webserver. Low power with a battery back up! Didn't proove powerfull enough for a server.

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On 13 Nov 2009, at 16:16, graham thompson <grayth...@tesco.net> wrote:

I thought Simon did a good job of explaining what a server did. I now have a vague idea. He did a very good job of pushing the Mini and I was starting to think of one as an entertainment centre until Ben told me that the software was another £399.
It was also interesting to compare the Mini with the recent guardian picture of a new server farm in Wiltshire, buried in a mine and claiming to use a third less energy than a typical data centre.
It is also interesting that when I slagged off the `Mail' at the post-MMUG-meet-banquet last night few disagreed with me. This morning I see it is giving the whole front page to telling MPs 

Alan Johnson has been told by MPs that he can and must halt the extradition of Gary McKinnon, who faces 60 years in jail for hacking into Pentagon and Nasa computers.

It can't be all bad!

Graham

<Computer-centre-001.jpg>
Wires of the world … racks of servers are vital infrastructure in a digital economy.
 Photograph: Martial Trezzini/EPA

On 13 Nov 2009, at 15:06, Dilip Rathod - Native Systems Ltd wrote:

Hi all,

A big thank you to Simon and the AppleStore Touchwood (Solihull) for hosting last night’s MMUG meet on Mac OS X server.

For those that came, could you please email me di...@nativesystems.co.uk some feedback below so that I may pass it on to the AppleStore.

Thanks again.

******************************************
Dilip Rathod - Apple Certified Support Professional
Native Systems Ltd - Phone 0121 743 0875
******************************************


Hi Dilip

Thank you very much for bringing the MMUG to Touchwood last night.  I hope the group found it useful and I certainly enjoyed running it.  Was the sound better with the mic?  As I mentioned last night, if you don't mind, could ask the group the following questions and send them back to me?  I'd really appreciate the feedback, it was the first session of it's kind, not just for Touchwood, but I believe, the UK.  It would be really useful to capture people's thoughts and improve it.  Also, I'll collect up the photos we took and send you them in a separate email.


What did you enjoy about the session?

What could have been better?

How did you find the Apple Store as a venue?

What other topics would you be interested in?

Any other comments?

Simon




Drew Reece

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Nov 13, 2009, 3:20:39 PM11/13/09
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OOPS too cold/ wet/ far for me to make the meeting last night, sorry. 
What is the media centre software - OSX Server? The Mini server edition comes with Snow Leopard server, which is a cheap(er way than Windows Server) way to get a licence, if you need the server features. 
Surely a media centre just needs Front Row or one of the free media interfaces such as  XBMC, Boxee or Plex. Most of the file sharing is built in to the standard OSX client anyway. You can also rip out the DVD drive & install a second HD in the mini if you want to skimp & get the standard Mini model. Built in Time Machine disk anyone? 

Re:co

On 13 Nov 2009, at 16:16, graham thompson wrote:
I thought Simon did a good job of explaining what a server did. I now have a vague idea. He did a very good job of pushing the Mini and I was starting to think of one as an entertainment centre until Ben told me that the software was another £399.
It was also interesting to compare the Mini with the recent guardian picture of a new server farm in Wiltshire, buried in a mine and claiming to use a third less energy than a typical data centre.
It is also interesting that when I slagged off the `Mail' at the post-MMUG-meet-banquet last night few disagreed with me. This morning I see it is giving the whole front page to telling MPs 

Alan Johnson has been told by MPs that he can and must halt the extradition of Gary McKinnon, who faces 60 years in jail for hacking into Pentagon and Nasa computers.

It can't be all bad!

Graham

<Computer-centre-001.jpg>
Wires of the world … racks of servers are vital infrastructure in a digital economy.
 Photograph: Martial Trezzini/EPA

On 13 Nov 2009, at 15:06, Dilip Rathod - Native Systems Ltd wrote:

Hi all,

A big thank you to Simon and the AppleStore Touchwood (Solihull) for hosting last night’s MMUG meet on Mac OS X server.

For those that came, could you please email me di...@nativesystems.co.uk some feedback below so that I may pass it on to the AppleStore.

Thanks again.

******************************************
Dilip Rathod - Apple Certified Support Professional
Native Systems Ltd - Phone 0121 743 0875
******************************************


Hi Dilip

Thank you very much for bringing the MMUG to Touchwood last night.  I hope the group found it useful and I certainly enjoyed running it.  Was the sound better with the mic?  As I mentioned last night, if you don't mind, could ask the group the following questions and send them back to me?  I'd really appreciate the feedback, it was the first session of it's kind, not just for Touchwood, but I believe, the UK.  It would be really useful to capture people's thoughts and improve it.  Also, I'll collect up the photos we took and send you them in a separate email.


What did you enjoy about the session?

What could have been better?

How did you find the Apple Store as a venue?

What other topics would you be interested in?

Any other comments?

Simon




Dilip Rathod - Native Systems Ltd

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Nov 14, 2009, 7:08:15 AM11/14/09
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The Mac Mini server costs £799 and includes the OSX server software.

If you were to buy the OSX server software alone then this would cost £399.


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Dilip Rathod - Apple Certified Support Professional
Native Systems Ltd - Phone 0121 743 0875
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Alasdair

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:50:37 AM11/17/09
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Dilip -

Enjoyed the description of server and server software, and I can see
how it's useful for larger organisations, esp. at that price, it's a
steal. For my domestic situation I think the sharing between machines
(and MobileMe) is probably sufficient, if I can ever get it working,
that is... Prefer the sound au naturelle - too much sibilance and
compression where I was sitting, and the seats could be better. Other
topics? How do you keep the HDD tidy (I use Spring Clean, but I still
don't know what can safely be trashed), getting rid of caches,
libraries and why you need them, what does Activity Monitor really
mean when it lists all that stuff? Do I need to know? What are
'Services'? They're all greyed out on my machines.

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