I haven't managed to catch the email exchange I'll probably look at it
tomorrow and discover you've solved all this... ;-)
We're looking to avert scope creep but also to set in blocks to enable
"next steps". In my mind that means forging the first and most obvious
link between the Collection and the Party that manages it and describing
that Party Relation Type as "isManagerof" in the Party object and
"isManagedBy in the Collection object in the Collection Relation Type
using URI. After that is where the water gets pretty choppy - we're
looking at ways to enable richer relationship creation, and also not
overwhelm the Data Analyts either in the timeframe we've got.
How about several scenarios to test our thoughts a little:
The Hedda and Alastair Morrison collection
The Jenny Kee and Linda Jackson collection.
The Lawrence Hargraves collection
Your thoughts welcomed...
Ingrid
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Let's try this again with an attachment rather than hoping an html table will render properly ...
Forging an early link between collections and parties seems a really good way to go - especially from our perspective - and describing managers/owners of a collection early would be a good first step.
Re: the mappings in your PDF file, I think there are a few things that weren't quite right. Below as an example I've taken the statements about the Hargreaves collection and popped them into a table. If you read these statements like a sentence subject-predicate-object then this will help with which relation types to assign (eg row 6 the party http://nla.gov.au/nla.party-573769 [="Powerhouse Museum"]) is the manager of mme:LHC [="Lawrence Hargreaves Collection"]). I've included your mapping as the Existing mapping and proposed mappings for rows with issues.
Hope this helps and note that the response is non-normative ie I think you'd want to check it with people like Tim Sherratt and ANDS before nailing it down !
Cheers,
Basil
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Yep, Basil's reworking seems to make sense to me. 'hasAssociationWith'
is for an 'unspecified relationship' so it makes sense to avoid it
where more specific claims can be made.
In the end this is about discovery. The possibility of being able to
explore a network of people and the collections they made seems to me
to be one of the most exciting aspects of the project.
BTW I agree with Alex that the relationships currently being used in
RIF-CS are limited and it would be good to be using an external
vocabulary. As Robina noted, the vocabs can change, so it'd be good to
think more about what we need.
cheers, Tim
The examples online on the MME project site are aimed at introducing the scheme to conceptualising and describing people...we need a tech version too. Lynne has been beavering away at this and feeding our approach to Robina. She has also made a good case for recognising the value of human reading (rather than machine reading) of data.
So I've now got nagging thoughts about data labels for dates, locations and relationships aside the mechanics of computation.
Ingrid
Ps. I'm also thinking it might be beneficial to have several people talking about this in a room for a couple of hours in Canberra. Would that be useful?
All,
cheers, Tim
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