Regarding vacation mess.

[Gaurav .]

Hi,

My mail is regarding concerns over allotting hostel wise mess to students staying during the vacation period. My point is that research scholars/ M.Tech has to stay for almost all the period of the vacation, except the officially allowed 15 days leave. It would be really unfair to get to force them to dine in mess against their choice. I request the HAS to please explain the rationale behind this and I really did not understand that why this issue was not bought in front of MMCC before.

I also invite comments from other members of MMCC over my concern.

 

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Warm Regards,

Gaurav

[kranthi kumar]

As Ex-Has, I was notified of this before implementation. As far as my knowledge goes all the non vacation category students from PG's can choose between SI and NI. Anyway, I would request JC and 2C to clarify this issue.

T Kranthi Kumar

4th year B-Tech,
Department of Mechanical Engineering,
Indian Institute Of Technology, Madras.
Chennai, India. 

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[Malay Shah]

dear JC, 

Not allowing students to choose mess for long period of almost 3 months, and allotting mess hostel wise will create problem among students. let them choose messes they want. last year we had mess registration for vacation(may-july) which was completed without any issue (since very less no of students). i dont understand what is reason behind not conducting any mess registration, can you please explain?

-Malay Shah

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Gaurav . <ee12...@ee.iitm.ac.in> wrote:

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[JC Jayachandran K]

Dear Gaurav, 

It is not about forcing students to eat. My plan is all the research scholars from Krishna, Brahmaputra and 4 tower hostels will be allotted to SGR and then they can choose either South Indian or North Indian. From previous database, the number of students dining from these hostels were around 1500. They can choose between South Indian and North Indian. 

Cauvery will be allotted to Cauvery students and the rest hostels among SK and Mandakini having Common menu. 

If Cauvery hostelites want to have in North Indian, they can be shifted to SGR ( Max 100 people). 

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Regards,

Jayachandran K,

Secretary (Hostel Affairs),

III year B.Tech || Dept of  Metallurgical and Materials Engineering,

Indian Institute of Technology Madras,

# 408, Tapti Hostel || (P) 9444005783

[Gaurav .]

Dear JC,

Here we are forcing people to dine in SGR. And also what if more than 100 students from Cauvery want to dine North Indian food or some other SI mess ? I did not get what is the issue with conducting a mess registration for vacation mess ? Anyway, the total seats are fixed, so those who register late, will dine in the vacant seats, as usual. Please see if it can be done, because last time also many of my friends who were forced to dine in Cauvery faced severe problems. I request you to  reconsider your decision on the same.

Regards,
Gaurav

Warm Regards,

Gaurav

[JC Jayachandran K]

​Gaurav,

I will try to have a mess registration, but that cant be done immediately as we dont know the numbers. Once after the allotment if students have problems, I will surely have a registration in the middle.​

[Shon Yadav]

Dear JC,

 I don't think you have understood the gravity of the issue. Let me be very clear on that and reiterate the point which Gaurav and Malay is trying to convey; it is totally unfair to force a student to dine in a particular mess. The reason is, almost every research scholar stays in the campus for whole two and half to three months period and most of them do dine very regularly. Being research scholars, we understand the importance of the this food issue better than others and we do not differ with other research scholars' view on this too. I had to say this all because I have genuine doubt of few taking this issue lightly.

 Coming to the issue, please note that we are talking about the choice of mess and not about the choice of the cuisine. If I understood correctly, you are trying to justify the unavailability of the choice of mess by giving the choice of NI or SI food. This does not make any sense. Also, I don't understand which numbers are you talking about as there used to be a registration for vacation mess before. Yet, I believe that you would really have a problem in conducting the registration but it would be better if you discuss more about the problem with us which would help us to understand it better. Also, if you are promising to have registration in case of students' objection to this scheme then take my word, students already have a problem. I can assure you that most of the research scholars would be against this. I personally would be unaffected by this decision as anyhow I would have opted for the SGR NI and being from Brahmaputra, I would get the same. But, there would be very unfair on the part of many students staying in the campus for whole hot summer to not get their desired dining option. 

Thanks,

Shon.

[Prathamesh Khatavkar]

Dear JC,

Even I feel this is a very serious issue.Forcing people and mostly research scholars to dyne in the same mess for a nearly

three months long time is very unfair and many people will severely disapprove the idea proposed by you because since this being  really a very long period;eating in a same mess will become very monotonous and hence not recommended at all.Mess registration for vacation period was never a issue before and so why is it now ??

Hoping you get the seriousness of the issue and act accordingly.

Thanks and regards,

Prathamesh

[Ganesh Bapat]

Dear JC

I completely agree to the points raised by Gaurav,Malay and Shon. Forcing students to dine in alloted mess for  nearly 2-3 months will create rage amongst them nothing less than that. Please take decisions with some rationale to support your decision.Please make sure that mess registrations happen for vacation mess also.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Shon Yadav <ee12...@ee.iitm.ac.in> wrote:

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Thanks & Regards

Ganesh  Bapat

Ph.D. Scholar

Machine Design Section (402)

Dept. of Mechanical Engineering

IIT Madras,Chennai-600036,

Mob No- 9884299133

[Gaurav Kathel]

Dear JC

I agree that maybe there are difficulties in having a mess registration but this is unfair for the students who don't want to eat in a particular mess, but are forced to eat their.. Many cauvery resident's (including both SI and NI) don't want to eat in cauvery mess (including myself) as in last vacation(dec'13 to mid jan 14 ) many students ate their and were unhappy...  If online registration is not possible, students can do offline registration (like last year). So please arrange for a mess registration (I don't think so it can't be done ).. So it would be fair to all the students......... 

Thank You

Gaurav Kathel

[Shon Yadav]

Dear JC,

 First of all I appreciate the decision taken to conduct the mess registration for the vacation period. Now students are not bound to eat in a particular mess based on their Hostel. However, I have another concern regarding the present scheme of the mess allotment for vacation. It is about making all the mess serve common menu for entire period of vacation. First I thought, I alone am not convinced with this decision but after discussing with few others, I decided to ask for the explanation from you about this.

So, I just want to know why on earth the decision of making common menu to all the mess is taken? Previously when you had decided to allot the mess based on the hostels, there was provision of SI and NI menu along with the common menu. When the decision of the mess registration was taken, why is the same scheme of menu not retained? We experienced that previous decision of hostel based mess was taken without MMCC members' opinion on it. Now, I see same thing is repeated with the difference being the choice of the menu. May I know why it was not discussed before? Also, the mess registration mail was sent on such a short notice that I could hardly put up this issue of the menu selection. But answers to the questions need to be sought.

Again, I must force upon a point that, for us, the period of close to three months is large enough and hence giving choice of only common menu which I believe predominantly a SI to the NI students is not fair. I believe that the decision is taken under some circumstances and with some reasons and rationale behind it. It would be nice if we are also made aware of those. Also, please let me know if I am missing on something here.

Thanks,

Shon