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c...@telesouth1.com

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Dec 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/4/98
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You know,

The more that these people open their mouths the worse they look. After this kind of
display I have thoughts of putting out an alert to our membership to avoid doing
business with them too. At least publishing an "Avoid These Companies" web page
would be a good idea.

Regards,

Walt

Tim Jung wrote:

> Why would not asking for a signup fee be a crime? I mean after all you are going
> to make a fee on all his transactions? Why should he have to refer anyone to
> you? Sounds to me like you just want everyone to pay you for doing business with
> you then pay you for running money and then your going to charge them more if
> they don't refer people to you. I don't disagree with you charging some fee per
> transaction for the processing but why the signup fee? I don't get that one. Of
> course that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
>
> Tim Jung
> System Admin
> Internet Gateway Inc.
> tj...@igateway.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CSI...@aol.com <CSI...@aol.com>
> To: cbr...@internettrends.com <cbr...@internettrends.com>
> Cc: isp-ma...@isp-marketing.com <isp-ma...@isp-marketing.com>
> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 1:05 PM
> Subject: Thank you
>
> >Can I ask why you publicly put this letter in the ISP marketing email
> >discussion list? And who you were talking to? Never mind.....I see what
> >Walter did, he sent his letter to me to you without explanation! I have never
> >sent you any email either. Walter @ telesouth, wanted all of his set up for a
> >merchant account for free, and he told my Agent that he had no intention of
> >giving us referrals right away. Therefore my Agent made the decision to not
> >put out $400 for an ISP who had no intentions except to get his merchant
> >account for Free. Your posting his letter publicly makes me look horrible
> >since it only shows his side of things. He didn't even post our email's
> >publicly.
> >
> >Not all people hate Cardservice, I have many happy clientele, it is all in the
> >service and mutual respect.
> >
> >I hope that Walter did not ruin your day as he did mine. God Bless you and
> >yours.
> >Sue Brown
> >
> >
> >
> >cbr...@Internettrends.com (Charlotte Brown)
> >Sender: owner-isp...@isp-marketing.com
> >Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:isp-ma...@isp-marketing.com">isp-marketing@isp-
> >marketing.com</A>
> >To: isp-ma...@isp-marketing.com
> >
> >Just who the heck do you think you are talking to? I never sent you any
> >email. I'd say you were highly unprofessional.
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Walt's Corner <c...@telesouth1.com>
> >> To: CSI...@aol.com; nanl...@aol.com
> >> Subject: Cardservice International
> >> Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998, 6:53 AM
> >>
> >> No,
> >>
> >> There are hard feelings. We came to you with a genuine need to fill and
> >> merchant clients depending upon us to find a solution. We asked for more
> >> information on your API, (which we have no need for anyway), and it was
> >> not provided. Your website is very lacking in background. Several pages
> >> are not working or still under construction. Finally your quote comes to
> >> me with a good bye letter. VERY unprofessional I would say.
> >>
> >> I sent your previous emails to two trusted clients just to see if I was
> >> in left field on this. Both seemed to gain the same impression I did and
> >> raised questions about how their accounts would be handled. What they
> >> could not believe was the "Childish Bickering" tone of your response to
> >> me, Ms Brown.
> >>
> >> Under no circumstances would I forward the trust that has been placed in
> >> me to such a callous and unprofessional operation as this. The value of
> >> my time in this as well as our business has been totally ignored.
> >>
> >> In addition, I am gathering up all corespondance and forwarding it with
> >> a letter to the CEO of Cardservice in hopes that they seek to run a
> >> professional operation.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Walter R. Carter
> >> President
> >> TeleSouth Network Inc
> >>
> >> CSI...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > In a message dated 12/2/98 6:38:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >> > c...@telesouth1.com writes:
> >> >
> >> > << Ms Brown,
> >> >
> >> > You and Ms. Kelly apparently have enough business to keep busy.
> >> >
> >> > Best of luck,
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> > No hard feelings I hope, and best of luck to you as well!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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In a message dated 12/4/98 3:16:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
c...@telesouth1.com writes:

<< Tim Jung wrote:

> Why would not asking for a signup fee be a crime? I mean after all you are
going
> to make a fee on all his transactions? Why should he have to refer anyone
to
> you? Sounds to me like you just want everyone to pay you for doing business
with
> you then pay you for running money and then your going to charge them more
if
> they don't refer people to you. I don't disagree with you charging some fee
per
> transaction for the processing but why the signup fee? I don't get that
one. Of
> course that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
>
> Tim Jung >>

Hi Tim,

Unfortunately, we are all in a business of one sort or another and where you
are correct in saying it wouldn't be a crime to not ask for a sign up fee,
we would lose money because we have to pay our Corporate office to process
each of our client's accounts. I think we had unfortunate misunderstandings
with Walter and I did apologize for those. If I was in charge I would pay for
everything myself and give it to you all for free, but then I might be out of
business too. I really am a sensitive person and I wish everyone great
success in their ventures and I personally devote my time for Free when I can.

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