(8.2) amd64 + linuxulator + nvidia driver is it stable ?

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Patrick Lamaiziere

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May 10, 2011, 11:31:53 AM5/10/11
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Hi,

I've got a new box running 8.2-stable with amd64 + linuxulator + nvidia
driver. Quite often when watching video on youtube the box freeze (no
panic).

Are there some known problems with this kind of configuration on
amd64? (Works fine on my old laptop using 8.2/i386)

I don't know where is problem, but one time the machine crashed just
after a pkill of npviewer.bin (they were in the futex state), so it
could be the linuxulator?

Thanks, regards.
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Mark Felder

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May 10, 2011, 12:55:06 PM5/10/11
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 10:31:53 -0500, Patrick Lamaiziere
<pat...@davenulle.org> wrote:

> I've got a new box running 8.2-stable with amd64 + linuxulator + nvidia
> driver. Quite often when watching video on youtube the box freeze (no
> panic).

I've previously reported this to freebsd-emul and probably freebsd-stable,
but nobody has been able to consistently create the issue so far. At one
point it was happening often enough and I was getting so tired of fscking
I moved my drive to mostly ZFS so I could boot up in a reasonable amount
of time.

Anyway, my observations are:

- It happens on 8.2 (not bothered trying -stable)
- It happens on various nvidia driver versions
- I can't prove it's truly linuxulator related
- When trying to catch a "panic" by telling it to run a video on the X
server and watching the console on vt1, it doesn't crash. It's weird -- it
just *doesn't* crash if I'm not staring at the vt that runs the X server.
Weird.


Regards,


Mark

Patrick Lamaiziere

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May 10, 2011, 1:41:35 PM5/10/11
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Le Tue, 10 May 2011 11:55:06 -0500,
"Mark Felder" <fe...@feld.me> a �crit :

Hello,

> > I've got a new box running 8.2-stable with amd64 + linuxulator +
> > nvidia driver. Quite often when watching video on youtube the box
> > freeze (no panic).
>
> I've previously reported this to freebsd-emul and probably
> freebsd-stable, but nobody has been able to consistently create the
> issue so far. At one point it was happening often enough and I was
> getting so tired of fscking I moved my drive to mostly ZFS so I could
> boot up in a reasonable amount of time.

Thanks Mark.

Did you try the latest Nvidia driver (not in the ports yet :
270.41.06)? Looks a lot of better here (usualy the box freezes
after only one or two videos)

My graphic card is a GeForce GTX 460:

vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem
0xf4000000-0xf5ffffff,0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xe4000000-0xe7ffffff irq
16 at device 0.0 on pci1
nvidia0: <GeForce GTX 460> on vgapci0
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
nvidia0: [ITHREAD]

pciconf:
vgapci0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x086510de
chip=0x0e2210de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class = display
subclass = VGA


Well if I still have crash, I will try with a 32 bits version.

Regards.

Ivan Klymenko

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May 10, 2011, 2:00:07 PM5/10/11
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В Tue, 10 May 2011 17:31:53 +0200
Patrick Lamaiziere <pat...@davenulle.org> пишет:

> Hi,
>
> I've got a new box running 8.2-stable with amd64 + linuxulator +
> nvidia driver. Quite often when watching video on youtube the box
> freeze (no panic).
>
> Are there some known problems with this kind of configuration on
> amd64? (Works fine on my old laptop using 8.2/i386)
>
> I don't know where is problem, but one time the machine crashed just
> after a pkill of npviewer.bin (they were in the futex state), so it
> could be the linuxulator?
>

I have encountered in the system exactly the same problem

uname -a
FreeBSD nonamehost 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r221598:
Sat May 7 17:28:18 EEST 2011
ivan@nonamehost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/mk9 amd64

pciconf -lv|grep Ge
device = 'Geforce 8400M GS (unknown)'

pkg_info|grep nvidi
nvidia-driver-270.41.06 NVidia graphics card binary drivers for
hardware OpenGL ren

dmesg|grep NVRM
NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 13, 000a 00000000 00008297 000019d0
0000003c 00000100

they were observed for nearly all nvidia drivers for amd64...
I tried to change the different options:
setenv VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1 -> ~/.cshrc
Option "Xinerama" "False" and Option "Xinerama" "0"
-> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
cat /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
OverrideGPUValidation=false
AutoUpdateDisable=true
EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0
FullScreenDisable=false

and it seems to me it helped for flashplayer...

but the situation as a whole wants the best, because these problems
continue with using VDPAU

so I'm leaning that cause these problems in drivers...

sorry for my english...

Pierre-Luc Drouin

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May 10, 2011, 2:21:07 PM5/10/11
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I have had the same problem as well in the past when I tried killing
npviewer.bin . Also using an NVidia card on amd64...

Thanks

Mario Lobo

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May 10, 2011, 5:21:39 PM5/10/11
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Are you guys using nspluginwrapper-devel?

Since I started using it I have no more freezes in firefox and no more
dangling npviewer.bin processes. YouTube plays fine for as many videos as I
want.

By the way, I never experienced system freezes even when I was using a non-
devel wrapper. Only firefox froze with watching flash videos. All I had to do
was to kill it and kill the npviewer.bins.

My system:

FreeBSD Papi 8.2-STABLE Tue May 3 13:17:39 BRT 2011 amd64
NVIDIA Driver Version: 270.41.06
device = 'NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT (G92)'

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Pierre-Luc Drouin

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May 10, 2011, 5:30:04 PM5/10/11
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> non-devel wrapper. Only firefox froze with watching flash videos. All I had


> to do was to kill it and kill the npviewer.bins.
>
>
> My system:
>
>
> FreeBSD Papi 8.2-STABLE Tue May 3 13:17:39 BRT 2011 amd64
>
> NVIDIA Driver Version: 270.41.06
>
> device = 'NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT (G92)'
>
>
> --
>
> Mario Lobo
>
> http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
>
> FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE)
>

I am using the non-devel version of nspluginwrapper. On my system, flash
causes firefox to hang for maybe 10-20 seconds sometimes, but this resolves
by itself... I think the problem that was originally identified and that I
am also experiencing is not necessarily the same as what you are describing,
although it is nice to know that the hanging problems might be gone with
nspluginwrapper-devel. Usually when I kill npviewer.bin though, it is to
prevent it from generating CPU load...

Mark Felder

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May 10, 2011, 7:09:37 PM5/10/11
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 16:21:39 -0500, Mario Lobo <lo...@bsd.com.br> wrote:

> Are you guys using nspluginwrapper-devel?

Hi Mario,

It happens to me with Opera, Chromium (from chromium.hybridsource.org),
and with Firefox via regular nspluginwrapper.


Regards,


Mark

Jerry

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May 10, 2011, 7:21:38 PM5/10/11
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 17:30:04 -0400
Pierre-Luc Drouin <pldr...@gmail.com> articulated:

> I am using the non-devel version of nspluginwrapper. On my system,
> flash causes firefox to hang for maybe 10-20 seconds sometimes, but
> this resolves by itself... I think the problem that was originally
> identified and that I am also experiencing is not necessarily the
> same as what you are describing, although it is nice to know that the
> hanging problems might be gone with nspluginwrapper-devel. Usually
> when I kill npviewer.bin though, it is to prevent it from generating
> CPU load...

I don't think that a day goes by that I don't have to kill a dozen
npviewer.bin instances and delete one or two 300M+ npviewer.bin.core
files. A real PIA to say the least.

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Mario Lobo

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May 10, 2011, 9:19:06 PM5/10/11
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You should try the devel version.

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Mark Felder

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May 11, 2011, 11:14:47 AM5/11/11
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 20:19:06 -0500, Mario Lobo <lo...@bsd.com.br> wrote:

> You should try the devel version.


I'll consider it, but I rarely use Firefox and furthermore Chromium and
Opera don't use nspluginwrapper and have the same issue. This makes me
think it has nothing to do with nspluginwrapper.

Jerry

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May 11, 2011, 12:02:47 PM5/11/11
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On Wed, 11 May 2011 10:14:47 -0500
Mark Felder <fe...@feld.me> articulated:

> On Tue, 10 May 2011 20:19:06 -0500, Mario Lobo <lo...@bsd.com.br>
> wrote:
>
> > You should try the devel version.
>
> I'll consider it, but I rarely use Firefox and furthermore Chromium
> and Opera don't use nspluginwrapper and have the same issue. This
> makes me think it has nothing to do with nspluginwrapper.

Does anyone know why the "x11/nvidia-driver" port has not been updated?
The latest version is 270.41.06 according to the nVidia page:
<http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html> &
<http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd-x64-270.41.06-driver.html> for 64
bit systems and
<http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd-x86-270.41.06-driver.html> for 32
bit systems.

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Patrick Lamaiziere

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May 21, 2011, 9:45:28 AM5/21/11
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Le Tue, 10 May 2011 19:41:35 +0200,
Patrick Lamaiziere <pat...@davenulle.org> a �crit :

> Well if I still have crash, I will try with a 32 bits version.

For the record, the box was not stable at all running amd64 and works
perfectly in i386. I don't know why.

Alexey Dokuchaev

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May 21, 2011, 10:32:16 AM5/21/11
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On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:02:47PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
> Does anyone know why the "x11/nvidia-driver" port has not been updated?

Frequent ENOTIME on my side to perform all required testing. :-(

> The latest version is 270.41.06 according to the nVidia page:

I've updated the port few minutes ago. Sorry it took that long.

./danfe

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