update from 7.0 to 7.2?

[Brad Mettee]

If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web pages as
needed, is there any reason to update from this:
FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24
10:35:36 UTC
2008 ro...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64

To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)

Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

Thanks

Brad Mettee
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[Andreas Rudisch]

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:05:29 -0400
Brad Mettee <bme...@pchotshots.com> wrote:

> If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web pages as
> needed, is there any reason to update from this:
> FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24
> 10:35:36 UTC
> 2008 ro...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>
> To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
>
> Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

You mean other than using a supported system with bug and security fixes?

Andreas
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[Earl Gay]

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Brad Mettee <bme...@pchotshots.com> wrote:

> If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web pages as
> needed, is there any reason to update from this:
> FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24
> 10:35:36 UTC 2008 ro...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> amd64
>
> To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
>
> Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
>
> Thanks
>
> Brad Mettee
> PC HotShots, Inc.
> Baltimore, MD
> (410) 426-7617

There's always the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" belief. If you're using
ZFS, 7.2-STABLE has the latest ZFS update; comparitavely, 7.1-RELEASE has a
longer time until end-of-life. You could also check out the release notes to
see if any of the updates are something worth upgrading for, respective to
your needs/setup.

Regards,
Earl

[Roland Smith]

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 02:05:29PM -0400, Brad Mettee wrote:
> If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web pages as
> needed, is there any reason to update from this:
> FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24
> 10:35:36 UTC
> 2008 ro...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>
> To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
>
> Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

It depends. There are vulnerabilities in kernel and userland fixed
between 7.0-RELEASE and 7.2-RELEASE-p2. See
http://security.freebsd.org/advisories.html If any of these
vulneratbilities affect your system you should see if there are
workarounds mentioned. If not it would be best to upgrade.

If you subscribe tot the freebsd-announce mailing-list, you'll be warned
when a vulnerability is found. You can then judge if it is wise to apply
the fix.

In general, I would follow the minor version branch (RELENG_7_X,
7.2-RELEASE-pX) to pick up fixes for vulnerabilities.

Roland
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[Lowell Gilbert]

Brad Mettee <bme...@pchotshots.com> writes:

> If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web
> pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
> FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
> 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
> ro...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>
> To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
>
> Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

At *least* make sure you get the security updates...

--
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http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/

[Brad Mettee]

At 03:20 PM 6/29/2009, you wrote:
>Brad Mettee <bme...@pchotshots.com> writes:
>
> > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web
> > pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
> > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
> > 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
> > ro...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
> >
> > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
> >
> > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
>
>At *least* make sure you get the security updates...
>
>--
>Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area

Ok, looks like I have some reading to do.

Thanks everyone.

Brad Mettee
PC HotShots, Inc.
Baltimore, MD
(410) 426-7617

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[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

my general concept is not to stick with the releases but to keep
the kernel on the current development like using RELENG_7 for
CVS.

You will notice that HAL and DBUS changed. I noticed because of
this real speed improvements on a slower machine.

Anyway, if this server runs mail and web pages, it is public
available and so prone to attacks. So, make sure that you have
the security updates installed.

Erich

[Albert Shih]

Le 29/06/2009 à 15:20:59-0400, Lowell Gilbert a écrit

> Brad Mettee <bme...@pchotshots.com> writes:
>
> > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web
> > pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
> > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
> > 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
> > ro...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
> >
> > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
> >
> > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
>
> At *least* make sure you get the security updates...
>

Other reason to make time to time a update is to simplify you life when
your old version don't work after N years. Someday you may have (for example)
postfix don't work anymore on you old version. So when you don't have the
choice, the update may very hard to make.

Regards.

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[Olivier Nicole]

> > Brad Mettee <bme...@pchotshots.com> writes:
> >
> > > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web
> > > pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
> > > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
> > > 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
> > > ro...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
> > >
> > > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
> > >
> > > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
> >
> > At *least* make sure you get the security updates...
> >
> Other reason to make time to time a update is to simplify you life when
> your old version don't work after N years. Someday you may have (for example)
> postfix don't work anymore on you old version. So when you don't have the
> choice, the update may very hard to make.

Another reason to consider, at some date, 7.0 will not be amintained
anymore.

At that time you may be facing difficulties to upgrade to the latest
legacy release: upgrades are better tested when done in sequence: 7.0
to 7.1, 7.1 to 7.2, etc. 7.x to 8.y. 7.0 to 8.y may work, or may
not. So you better not stay too far behind.

Bests,

Olivier