Drupal vs. Wordpress

[Carmel NY]

I am going to be installing either Drupal or Wordpress on my FreeBSD 11.1
system. I was wondering if anyone has any specific recommendations. It will be
lightly used, at least at first.

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[Per olof Ljungmark]

On 2017-10-28 18:02, Carmel NY wrote:
> I am going to be installing either Drupal or Wordpress on my FreeBSD 11.1
> system. I was wondering if anyone has any specific recommendations. It will be
> lightly used, at least at first.
>

They are two very different beasts - your choice would depend on your
experience from CMS's and goal - WP gets you up and running in no time,
after all, it is the most used Open Source CMS by far, but if you need
to build a framework for a specific purpose that requires a lot more
than a simple home page there is no end to choices... many of them are
in ports as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems

Let your skills and requirements guide you.

Good luck,

//per

[Dale Scott]

Do you have any ulterior or collateral objectives? From a very superficial view, I'd say install WordPress if you want experience with the world's most popular "website" and potentially get into plugin development. Install Drupal if you want experience in a leading website construction framework, and potentially get into module development. If you don't know, pick WordPress.

Good luck!

[Frank Leonhardt (m)]

On 28 October 2017 17:02:02 BST, Carmel NY <carm...@outlook.com> wrote:
>I am going to be installing either Drupal or Wordpress on my FreeBSD
>11.1
>system. I was wondering if anyone has any specific recommendations. It
>will be
>lightly used, at least at first.

I use both, plus Joomla (Add this to the list). And ovet the years I've looked after a lot of web developers using all three. Web developers are a superstitious lot and have a lit of opinions on software they DON'T use.

WordPress is good for blogs. Most other stuff is better in Joomla or Drupal, both of which also do blogs but not nearly as heavily.

Of the other two, I prefer Drupal. It's cleaner. It has fewer add-ons, but those that do exist are generally better written. If you need a particular add-in and don'Z want to write it, choose the CMS that has it.

A lot of people believe Drupal is harder to set up and/or use. I really don't see that myself - possibly folklore based on early version.

If you are going the shop site route, look at ZenCart.


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[Eugeniy Khvastunov]

Hello!
Sorry for some offtop.
How you securing you wp/joomla/drool?
Maybe you can recommend some WAF or modules for Web server?

30 Окт 2017 г. 3:26 PM пользователь "Frank Leonhardt (m)" <fra...@fjl.co.uk>
написал:

[Mike Clarke]

On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 09:31:03 +0200
Eugeniy Khvastunov <khvas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How you securing you wp/joomla/drool?
> Maybe you can recommend some WAF or modules for Web server?

As far as Wordpress goes I regard Wordfence <https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordfence/> as an essential security plugin. There's also some general advice on securing and hardening a Wordpress site at https://www.wordfence.com/learn/

I also add these .htaccess rules to deny access to certain files:

# BEGIN protect wp-config.php
<files wp-config.php>
order allow,deny
deny from all
</files>
# END protect wp-config.php

# BEGIN protect temporary editor files
<files ~ "(\.swp|~)$">
order allow,deny
deny from all
</files>
# END protect temporary editor files

# BEGIN protect readme,txt
<files readme.txt>
order allow,deny
deny from all
</files>
# END protect readme,txt

# BEGIN restrict access to "includes" directories
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteRule ^wp-admin/includes/ - [F,L]
RewriteRule !^wp-includes/ - [S=3]
RewriteRule ^wp-includes/[^/]+\.php$ - [F,L]
RewriteRule ^wp-includes/js/tinymce/langs/.+\.php - [F,L]
RewriteRule ^wp-includes/theme-compat/ - [F,L]
</IfModule>
# END restrict access to "includes" directories

# Don't allow directory browsing
Options -Indexes

# Return "Not found" instead of "Forbidden"
ErrorDocument 403 /path-to/my/404.php

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[DTD]

IMO the answer somewhat depends on if this is for you personally or something
you are going to offer as a service. If you know PHP and are comfortable
writing/hacking code PHP fragments it might be drupal would server you better.
If is a commercial offering we decided on wordpress. If it's for you, why not
try both. At the entry level they have similar interfaces. Both install easily.

If you know CSS and HTML virtually anything is possible with wordpress with no
PHP knowledge being needed. There are literally millions of plug-ins to extend
wordpress in various areas. Drupal up to the current version considers backward
compatibility a weakness. PHP must also be up-to-date. The main issue (I have)
with word press is the original developer is having a food fight with the CMS
wordpress users and developers in that his company (Automatic) wants to go in a
different direction and (at least initially) take wordpress along for the ride.
The FreeBSD parallel would have been if sendmail.com forced changes on the Unix
community as a whole.

The wordpress issue is kind of interesting and maybe should even be investigated
to see what the affect would be for a commercial offering. For a personal or a
single corporate website it is IMo largely irrelevant (but entertaining).


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[Outback Dingo]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 9:59 PM, DTD <do...@safeport.com> wrote:
> IMO the answer somewhat depends on if this is for you personally or
> something you are going to offer as a service. If you know PHP and are
> comfortable writing/hacking code PHP fragments it might be drupal would
> server you better. If is a commercial offering we decided on wordpress. If
> it's for you, why not try both. At the entry level they have similar
> interfaces. Both install easily.
>
> If you know CSS and HTML virtually anything is possible with wordpress with
> no PHP knowledge being needed. There are literally millions of plug-ins to
> extend wordpress in various areas. Drupal up to the current version
> considers backward compatibility a weakness. PHP must also be up-to-date.
> The main issue (I have) with word press is the original developer is having
> a food fight with the CMS wordpress users and developers in that his company
> (Automatic) wants to go in a different direction and (at least initially)
> take wordpress along for the ride. The FreeBSD parallel would have been if
> sendmail.com forced changes on the Unix community as a whole.
>
> The wordpress issue is kind of interesting and maybe should even be
> investigated to see what the affect would be for a commercial offering. For
> a personal or a single corporate website it is IMo largely irrelevant (but
> entertaining).
>

IMHO dont use either of them, both have known issues with security

[Valeri Galtsev]

Agree. I for one prefer joomla and serendipity to wordpress, drupal...

Valeri

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