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Christian Feniou
Apr 29, 2015, 3:37:22 PM4/29/15
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Bonjour !
To store and share data, I use TinyWebDb. I installed this DB on the Google service by modification of the AI examples.
When I implemented this feature, I read the Google conditions for use that saying the usage is free to a quota of data and calculation amounts.
I received recently this E-mail from Google :
It's not so clear form me ! This mean Google suppress the quotas ? Is the TinywebDB seen as a cloud service ?
I don't know (or understand) if the usage I do with TinyWebDb is concerned or not by the subject of this E-mail ??
(note the volume and server power are very low)
Is someone to tell me ??
Thanks per advance !
Regards.
To store and share data, I use TinyWebDb. I installed this DB on the Google service by modification of the AI examples.
When I implemented this feature, I read the Google conditions for use that saying the usage is free to a quota of data and calculation amounts.
I received recently this E-mail from Google :
Hello Google Cloud Storage User,
Please be advised that, beginning July 14, 2015, Google will begin charging the following fees for Google Cloud Storage:
- $0.01 per GB of data transferred between buckets located in different regions of the same continent
- Egress rates per GB of data transferred between buckets located on different continents
Until then, you will be able to view your current usage in the billing details for your project in order to help you estimate the impact of these changes on your monthly spend.
For additional information and examples of this billing charge, please visit https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing#network-regions
-- The Google Cloud Storage Team
Google Inc. 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043
You have received this mandatory service announcement to update you about important changes to Google Cloud Platform or your account.
I don't know (or understand) if the usage I do with TinyWebDb is concerned or not by the subject of this E-mail ??
(note the volume and server power are very low)
Is someone to tell me ??
Thanks per advance !
Regards.
Taifun
Apr 29, 2015, 6:46:08 PM4/29/15
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I do not use TinyWebDB, I prefer fusiontables, but probably Lyn's guide can help https://sites.google.com/a/wellesley.edu/wellesley-cs117-fall14/goodies/tinywebdb-services/creating-a-custom-tinywebdb-service and don't sign up for the free trial
and probably someone else can answer your questions?
Taifun
Christian Feniou
Apr 30, 2015, 11:00:06 AM4/30/15
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Thank you Taifun...
My main problem is I used AI Classic to build my application (fusion tables are not part of AI classic...). I don't like to re-write all !
I'll look to a small side app under AI2, called from my app, to manage a centralized storage... It's not so smart !!
I'm waiting for another specialist answer...
Best regards.
CF
My main problem is I used AI Classic to build my application (fusion tables are not part of AI classic...). I don't like to re-write all !
I'll look to a small side app under AI2, called from my app, to manage a centralized storage... It's not so smart !!
I'm waiting for another specialist answer...
Best regards.
CF
Taifun
Apr 30, 2015, 11:18:00 AM4/30/15
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the fusiontable controls are also available in App Inventor Classic, you can find them in the "Not ready for prime time" drawer, see the documentation
Christian Feniou
Apr 30, 2015, 1:01:59 PM4/30/15
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Ok, I'll see...
Thank you !
Thank you !
Hal Abelson
Apr 30, 2015, 3:27:39 PM4/30/15
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Christian,
If you are going to work on this project more, keep in mind that AI Classic is obsolete. We have not yet announced a date for shutting the server down, but we're not fixing bugs in the system or keeping it up to date.
As far as TinyWebDB, the App Inventor component depends on having a Web service available. App Inventor, as you know, has a small demonstration service running on App Engine. MIT pays for that, but it's for demos only. For more extensive use, the App Inventor documentation shows how to create your own service in Google App Engine, which it sounds like you've done. I believe Google still permits limited use of App Engine for free.
If you are going to work on this project more, keep in mind that AI Classic is obsolete. We have not yet announced a date for shutting the server down, but we're not fixing bugs in the system or keeping it up to date.
As far as TinyWebDB, the App Inventor component depends on having a Web service available. App Inventor, as you know, has a small demonstration service running on App Engine. MIT pays for that, but it's for demos only. For more extensive use, the App Inventor documentation shows how to create your own service in Google App Engine, which it sounds like you've done. I believe Google still permits limited use of App Engine for free.
Christian Feniou
Apr 30, 2015, 5:22:51 PM4/30/15
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Thank you Hal,
I know of course the AI1 is obsolete !! For the maintenance I use the AI standalone version (as it is)... For other applications, I'll use AI2 for sure !
I wrote my Python access to the App Engine Service for my App.
My question was is someone to know if Google change the free usage conditions for App engine as it's possible to understand in the mail I received (see the red text in my post).
Note that the question is same with any version of AI and I believe also with Fusion Tables using also the Google App engine...
Thank you for your answer.
I know of course the AI1 is obsolete !! For the maintenance I use the AI standalone version (as it is)... For other applications, I'll use AI2 for sure !
I wrote my Python access to the App Engine Service for my App.
My question was is someone to know if Google change the free usage conditions for App engine as it's possible to understand in the mail I received (see the red text in my post).
Note that the question is same with any version of AI and I believe also with Fusion Tables using also the Google App engine...
Thank you for your answer.
Taifun
Apr 30, 2015, 5:27:52 PM4/30/15
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concerning fusiontables and signing up for the free trial see my answer here https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mitappinventortest/EUZVlOFtxz4/c2czpo0PnEcJ
Taifun
Hal Abelson
Apr 30, 2015, 10:52:27 PM4/30/15
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That Google message about "buckets" is pretty obscure. It has to so with how Cloud Storage is organized. You'd need to read
some of their documentation to understand it. Also search on the Web, since I assume other people as having the same
puzzlement.
some of their documentation to understand it. Also search on the Web, since I assume other people as having the same
puzzlement.
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