Generic Low Latency Asio Driver Cubase No Sound
Emigdio Binet
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ok audio driver has nothing to do with MIDI, so explain why my MIDI works with one audio driver but not with other, it probably has something to do with it. I just recorded few notes in the project, where the issue is present and can clearly see these notes are slightly moved out of timing, I also heard them out of timing while recording, and the same I can hear during playback. Then I quantized them and they are sound in time now, so if it is a buffer problem. why the note played in time from the track perfectly sits on the measure and the same note played more or less in time, sound later and is also recored later on the track ?
Asio buffer406593 45 KB
do you konw any trick how set the buffer to even smaller numbers then I have right now?
If you record live on a VST instrument, you usually compensate the latency of your audio card by playing too early. In consequence, the timestamps are recorded too early. By activating this option, all recorded events are moved by the current latency, and playback sounds like during the recording situation.
Looks like you have it enabled, and you are trying to input the notes on the beats without playing early, doing so will counteract the effect of the option and cause the notes to be recorded too late.
Try disabling it.
When you configure Cubase you should be able to select from 3 options:
WDM driver (windows driver model driver)
Generic asio (speudo asio wrapper from Steinberg to use WDM driver)
Vendor ASIO - you should see something called LYNX ASIO Driver, this is the one you want.
There is a directory named Asio in your C:\Program Files\Steinberg directory. Just make a back-up of this directory (very important - I will explain later why), and simply remove this directory from the given location.
Now restart windows, and you will notice Sonar no longer uses that generic ASIO driver. It makes no difference for Cubase, because you should use the device ASIO driver in stead of a generic driver anyway. Problem solved.
Lynx support suggested that a list has somehow been modified without updating the indexes or some such thing, thereby shifting all of the names. Consequently, the backend is still working - my Lynx device is still producing audio - but Device Manager (and who knows what else) is out of whack. Moving forward without correction, things would only get more confused or broken.
When you say, just make a back-up of this directory, are you referring to simply moving that directory to somewhere else on the computer (as in cut and paste)? And in that case, is there no need to mess with the Windows Registry?
The generic ASIO driver comes in play when there are no real ASIO driver ( onboard audio?), it wraps the wdm to use as ASIO.
Asio4all is another way of doing the same ( never use these hacks for any serious work)
The Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver has well-documented problems with other applications (e.g., Sonar). As such, it might not be common knowledge in these forums, but a general Google search will reveal more, should anyone need it.
Anyway, deleting the Steinberg Generic ASIO driver is not enough, but, going into the Regedit program as described took care of my problem with WL - and for that I am very grateful to you and your post!! Thank you!!
When I use my interface (Boss GT1000) latency goes fine, but I frequently need to use the laptop without carrying my Boss or when recording my e-Drum. In those cases I enter to my audio card directly via USB. With generic low latency driver I always have 20/20 mls latency wich is way too much.
Hello. Thanks for the advises. I have tried and the latency seem to be allright (5/5ml).
I have a question. I guess I can record my drum with Asio4all, and then, when I want to record guitars in the same project, use the Asio driver of my interface. Right? I mean, is there any problem in using one driver when recording a track and a different driver when I record another track? Will I be able to mix and listen all the tracks of my project?
I use currently Windows 10. Cubase 12. I get 77ms delay on ASIO4ALL and only 22ms delay on Generic Low latency Asio, which is why I drastically prefer the Generic one. But I heard from others that ASIO4ALL should be about equal to the Generic one.
Most who take it seriously will use a dedicated audio interface. It just seems in the last couple of years more are using the onboard audio as they are not recording any instruments or vocals. If you do record anything then an audio interface is essential.
Are you sure you have set asio4all up correctly as you should be able to get buffers lower than generic driver giving you lower latency, I managed to get about 10ms on my sons laptop which is about 4 years old now.
Problems with plugins and Generic Low Latency ASIO driver
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 30 May 11:44PM Hide picture This is weird.
I have a Steinberg UR 22 mkII usb audio interface, and it indluded an ASIO driver, Yamaha Steinberg ASIO driver, and it works fine.
At some point, possibly after installing Cubasis or Dorico, I also ended up with a driver called "Generic Low Latency ASIO driver". I had problems with it and never used it, choosing the Yamaha Steinberg one instead.
Every once in a while when loading Sibelius, I see flashing and text suggesting that the Low Latency Driver is loading. If I think to look, sometime my Yamaha driver is not in the list, and I change it to something else.
But often I am not interested in the sound so I let it be.
But here is the weird part. If that driver is loaded, plugins fail unpredictably. Just weird things happen. If I load another sound driver, the plugins suddenly work. The plugin usually has nothing to do with the sound.
So I just thought I would warn everyone that if your plugins start weirdly misbehaving, make sure you are not using that driver.
And does anyone know how to totally remove that driver (Windows 10)? It is not obvious and googling has led me in circles enough time that I have been putting up with it. But I would really like to get rid of it.
Cheers
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Posted by Bob Zawalich - 31 May 12:53AM Hide picture I just tried ripping it out of my registry which was the only suggestion I found. I will see how that works out...
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Posted by Adrian Drover - 31 May 09:22AM (edited 31 May 09:24AM) Hide picture This sounds very much like the problem I've been having with latency in 8.5.1. I was forever getting "Audio Engine, Bad Settings". Plug-ins were taking about 10 seconds to respond and about 1 second delay on everything else, objects wouldn't drag &c. I never discovered what was causing the problem, having to go back to 7.1.3 to get any work done. I have since re-installed 8.5.1 and it seems to be working normally at present. I remain hopeful that the problem doesn't return. Back to top Allthreads Re: Problems with plugins and Generic Low Latency ASIO driver
Posted by Laurence Payne - 31 May 11:13AM Hide picture So all it took was a re-installation? Did you do a 'deep' removal first, cleaning out the registry entries and preference files that aren't affected by the standard Uninstall Program method? Back to top Allthreads Re: Problems with plugins and Generic Low Latency ASIO driver
Posted by Adrian Drover - 31 May 12:04PM Hide picture Woah, Laurence, you're going too deep for me. I write music. I no nuttin' 'bout modern computer maintenance. Luckily, I have a son who knows a helluva lot more than I. But I am spending a lot of time trying to put my personal preferences back into 8.5.1, so I guess I did get a factory model installed. I wish to thank you and Robin for all your helpful suggestions and advice. Without this forum, I would have gotten nowhere. Back to top Allthreads Re: Problems with plugins and Generic Low Latency ASIO driver
Posted by Laurence Payne - 31 May 12:23PM Hide picture As features are added, the Preferences system is modified to cover them. Though we would obviously like to be able to transfer our carefuly set-up preferences from an older Sibelius, it seems better to trash them and start over in the new version.
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Posted by Jeff Hale - 31 May 01:27PM Hide picture I would check with Ulf or Daniel on a different forum. Similar questions have come up before.
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Posted by Bob Zawalich - 31 May 02:51PM Hide picture I could find no way to uninstall the Generic Low Latency ASIO driver. It does not appear in the Control Panel uninstaller. The only googling I found that gave any answer at all suggesting removing entries in the registry.
I don't really even see a way to tell it is installed other than looking for the name in the Registry.
So I made a restore point and exported the Registry and just removed entries that looked like they were real entries for that driver.
I do not recommend this as a technique because of possible corruption of the registry. I am keeping a close eye on anything that might have used that driver and so far it looks OK.
I just got fed up with weird stuff happening, and at least that does not seem to be happening anymore.
I am pretty sure it came in with a Steinberg product but I didn't find anything googling over there either.
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Posted by Robin Walker - 31 May 02:58PM Hide picture > I am pretty sure it came in with a Steinberg product
It gets installed with Dorico, for instance.
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Posted by Laurence Payne - 31 May 03:09PM Hide picture And Cubase. Back to top Allthreads Re: Problems with plugins and Generic Low Latency ASIO driver
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 31 May 03:11PM Hide picture And I have versions of both. So the source is pretty clear, and my Yamaha Steinberg driver appears to work with them, but I still have not seen any way to uninstall it.
And it really really can screw things up in Sibelius. I have never seen anything like it!
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Posted by Robert Enns - 31 May 03:12PM Hide picture It hasn't done anything weird for me.
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Posted by Bob Zawalich - 31 May 03:23PM (edited 31 May 03:34PM) Hide picture I note that I never chose the GLLA driver in Sibelius. I was using the Yamaha driver, but then at some point I would run a version of Sibelius and in the startup screen I would see a bunch of flashing and the GLLA text was in the flashing text.
It could have something to do with the fact that I have several installed versions of Sibelius and I sometimes run them simultaneously. Possibly that is a bad idea but I had been doing it for years with no obvious bad results. Maybe Sib doesn't like it if multiple versions are running the same ASIO driver?
Anyway, I have not seen and random plugin failures since I did this.
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Posted by Andy G - 31 May 05:43PM Hide picture FWIW, I have 6.2, 7.1.3 and Cubase 8 installed on the Win 7 partition of this PC and on a Win 7 Laptop. And 6.2 is also on the XP partition on this PC along with an older version of Cubase and Wavelab.
The Generic LL driver is present on all three systems. It's used on the laptop, which doesn't have an ASIO card and refuses to work with ASIO4ALL. Cubase and Sib work fine on the laptop with the Generic LL driver.
It's not used on the PC, as that has ASIO capable audio cards, but it's still present. Occasionally, I'll load in an old Sib score into 7.1.3 and that seems to do the 'flash' that Bob mentions and change to the LL driver, but it still works fine and I can simply change back to the proper ASIO driver.
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Posted by Laurence Payne - 31 May 05:44PM Hide picture When I inadvertently start Sibelius without first switching on my RME Fireface 800 audio interface, the Audio Engine can default to the Steinberg Generic Low Latency ASIO driver. It's just an irritation. I power it up, restart Sibelius, go into Audio Engine settings and switch it back. No huge deal. Back to top Allthreads Re: Problems with plugins and Generic Low Latency ASIO driver
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 01 Jun 12:36AM Hide picture My USB Interface is always on; I suspect that either the Yamaha driver is not found or possibly it is being used by another instance of Sibelius running. I will change all but one of the versions to use a different driver and see if that helps.
And I would not care if it was just something funny with the sound because I mostly do not need the sound. But I am seriously annoyed when it messes with my plugins!
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