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JGarvin

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May 10, 2009, 11:11:23 AM5/10/09
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Seems like a rare find to be able to stumble on someone doing this
these days, so I thought I'd give them a little publicity here. Maybe
we could make a game of this (like googlewhacking) to look for
websites accepting sensitive info on an insecure form. For more of a
challenge, it could be limited to businesses located in western
Montana.

Anyway, was looking for where to take Mom for brunch this morning,
when I stumbled on this page. <sigh>

http://www.dauphinesbakery.com/order.html


BTW, does it look as awful in other browsers as it does in FF on
Linux? I've got text overlapping other text all over the place.
almost impossible to read. Whole site is like that for me.

nick

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May 10, 2009, 12:01:00 PM5/10/09
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right up at the top: This site is best viewed with Internet Explorer,
Netscape and Firefox.

i'm getting the ugly in FF

Dan Bowling

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May 10, 2009, 12:41:00 PM5/10/09
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It looks fine in Safari. I just sent them a comment about the form.

Dan

Nathan Stephens

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May 10, 2009, 6:17:38 PM5/10/09
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Looks fine on in FF on PC. Wonder why not in FF for MAC? Seems like that shouldn't be a problem... Still reasons why the PC browser experience is superior to MAC. Just not everything else that has to do with the PC. Oh and what is the deal isn't MAC a PC now anyway with Intel inside?

~Nathan

p.s. Sent the Bakery a note about the dangers of their order form. Geez!
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Nathan Stephens |  Owner
Groundswell Media Productions
www.GroundswellMediaProductions.com
Phone: 406.531.6699 Fax: 866.317.0801
Mail: PO Box 8225 Missoula, MT 59807

Michael Loftis

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May 14, 2009, 10:51:27 PM5/14/09
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On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Nathan Stephens
<nathan.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks fine on in FF on PC. Wonder why not in FF for MAC? Seems like that
> shouldn't be a problem... Still reasons why the PC browser experience is
> superior to MAC. Just not everything else that has to do with the PC. Oh and
> what is the deal isn't MAC a PC now anyway with Intel inside?
> ~Nathan

Sort of thread=jack about Mac. The browser experience differences are
minimal at best across Windows Linux and Mac provided you're using
firefox. Safari still does a better job of sites than older versions
of IE, but newer versions of IE are getting better. I use safari
primarily because FF on Mac feels slower, and I've had problems with
Flash and QuickTime plugins off and on. Then htere's the stupid SSL
security "policies" they've implemented recently.

One problem I've consistently seen on Mac AND Linux is unavailability
of fonts affecting (seriously affecting) the readability of a site.
Using MS Specific fonts (Like say Comic Sans MS which seems so damn
popular still) means the site sin't going to look right on OS/X or
Linux (unless the user has taken steps to install the fonts)

As for Newer macs, they are intel based, and have soem of the same
hardware but they're NOT a PC. Windows runs on them with some help
froma PC BIOS emulation layer, you all know this as Boot Camp. It
helps XP and Vista get booted up on the EFI firmware that Intel Mac's
use. EFI is sort of like an advanced (but non compatible) PC BIOS.
BIOS grew...organically. It doesn't have any real standardization.
That is the reason for EFI. Whether-or-not EFI is superior well...I
don't feel like it is. It's just about as difficult to work with from
an OS developers standpoint as BIOS, but atleast the documentation is
a bit more reliable. PowerPC Mac's used OpenFirmware which is VERY
common in PPC and RISC systems in general (Sun's still use this on
their SPARC platforms). When they made the move to Intel they
realized BIOS was dead and EFI was a good direction to go, so they
did. They had no need nor reason to maintain compatibility with BIOS
and it was a good idea for them to in fact NOT do such a thing.

nick

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May 15, 2009, 12:51:41 AM5/15/09
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I totally hear where you are comming from with regards to font issues,
that's one of the biggest day to day, noticeable things about running
a non main-stream OS (Ubuntu). Amongst the slew of installed apps is
msttcorefonts, which installs some of the more basic fonts and really,
really helps. A lot rides a good web designers choosing fonts wisely,
and using images (sparingly) when a very specific font is needed.
using appropriate css font rules, with multiple font options including
one of the standard font types (serif, sans-serif, etc.)

For some unfortunate reason even in Ubuntu i am still subjected to
Comic Sans, can't they just make a really generic font and call it
comic sans so i can attempt to forget that it exists... i'm pretty
happy that i never see papyrus.

On May 14, 8:51 pm, Michael Loftis <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Nathan Stephens
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