Trip to Scotland
Alan Hope
While looking up some information on Doric Scots, I happened on the
website of the Rosehearty Community, from the eponymous town in
Aberdeenshire in NE Scotland (between Banff and Fraserburgh, if you
must know).
I dare say American towns are all web presences these days, but you'd
be pushed to find such old world charm. Although it's an extensive
site. Take a virtual tour of the several landmarks (ObWriting: these
would be great material for someone plotting a novel in a fictional
village, or rather blocking, as our theay-taaah friends call it) or
listen to some clips of a local man pronouncing stuff like "I'm away
up the rocks, I'll see ye later".
Doric Scots, for those who were wondering, describes the sort of
Lowlands Scots English spoken in the NE of Scotland, round about
Aberdeen. It's an utterly enchanting dialect and accent, which for me
rivals that of the Western Highlands -- the one everyone likes. As
I've mentioned before in the last eight years or so, its Homer was
Lewis Grassic Gibbon, and its Iliad his Scots Quair trilogy, and in
particular the first part, Sunset Song, which can bring a lump to the
throat at the typing of the title, and which was just voted Scotland's
favourite book in a poll by someone or other. I don't believe all the
people have read it who say they have, but at least they didn't go for
Trainspotting.
Isn't Rosehearty a lovely name for a town? It seems to mean "the
anchorage ground near the promontory". Well duh.
--
AH
Jackson Pillock
"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:5gfei1dmpdro47fog...@4ax.com...
:
: While looking up some information on Doric Scots, I happened on the
: website of the Rosehearty Community, from the eponymous town in
: Aberdeenshire in NE Scotland (between Banff and Fraserburgh, if you
: must know).
:
: I dare say American towns are all web presences these days, but you'd
: be pushed to find such old world charm. Although it's an extensive
: site. Take a virtual tour of the several landmarks (ObWriting: these
: would be great material for someone plotting a novel in a fictional
: village, or rather blocking, as our theay-taaah friends call it) or
: listen to some clips of a local man pronouncing stuff like "I'm away
: up the rocks, I'll see ye later".
:
: Doric Scots, for those who were wondering, describes the sort of
: Lowlands Scots English spoken in the NE of Scotland, round about
: Aberdeen. It's an utterly enchanting dialect and accent, which for me
: rivals that of the Western Highlands -- the one everyone likes.
I for one love the Glaswegian accent, though I'm not sure I could live
surrounded by it. I also like Anglicised Scots, like Eddie Mair or Gavin
Esler or even Gordon Brown in spite of his jutting chin. For me that's the
clearest, best spoken English. Right to the front of the mouth, like
recieved English, but with sharper rs and other nuances.
:
:
Alan Hope
>I for one love the Glaswegian accent, though I'm not sure I could live
>surrounded by it.
See me nat? I luv a Glesga accent, but a widnae wantae live er but,
know?
The Glasgow accent is so media-overwhelming in Scotland these days
that, like Estuary English, it's beginning to take over in places
where it's not native, indiginous, whatever the word is nat man
knowatamean nat by the way?
>I also like Anglicised Scots, like Eddie Mair or Gavin
>Esler or even Gordon Brown in spite of his jutting chin. For me that's the
>clearest, best spoken English. Right to the front of the mouth, like
>recieved English, but with sharper rs and other nuances.
That's the way I talk, Jackson man know? It's a Glasgow accent with
the edges rubbed off so that people who are not from Glasgow can
understand you, maybe. Nearly. It's not a real accent. It's a
newsreader patois thing.
--
AH
Jackson Pillock
: Jackson Pillock goes:
Jeepers, could you say that again?
:
:
: --
: AH
:
:
fluffy...@yahoo.com.au
<< google.com message >>
Any excuse to wear a dress...
--
Rob
" irritating little fuck...I'm going to have killed."
- my new friend Alan Hope.
pandora
>
> While looking up some information on Doric Scots, I happened on the
> website of the Rosehearty Community, from the eponymous town in
> Aberdeenshire in NE Scotland (between Banff and Fraserburgh, if you
> must know).
Interesting place indeed. I took a look and spent the rest of the day
wandering around Scotland. I found some nice maps and my family's ancestral
home. We even have a castle although it's in ruins. Thanks!
Marg
Alan Hope
I'm glad to hear it.
--
AH
pandora
the 24th Laird of Clan Ranald is trying to rebuild our castle. The
conservationists in Scotland are against him doing that since they claim it
has been that way since the 1700 somethings and should remain that way
forever. Sigh......Guess I won't be staying in the clan castle anytime
soon.
Drat!
Marg (nee McCrindle, a bastardized, Canadianized version of MacRonald)
> --
> AH
>
>
Alan Hope
>"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
>news:6kfhi1posglms4lsq...@4ax.com...
>> pandora goes:
>> >"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:5gfei1dmpdro47fog...@4ax.com...
>> >> While looking up some information on Doric Scots, I happened on the
>> >> website of the Rosehearty Community, from the eponymous town in
>> >> Aberdeenshire in NE Scotland (between Banff and Fraserburgh, if you
>> >> must know).
>> >Interesting place indeed. I took a look and spent the rest of the day
>> >wandering around Scotland. I found some nice maps and my family's
>ancestral
>> >home. We even have a castle although it's in ruins. Thanks!
>> I'm glad to hear it.
>Which? That I had a nice time OR that our castle is in ruins?
Why, yes.
>By the bye,
>the 24th Laird of Clan Ranald is trying to rebuild our castle. The
>conservationists in Scotland are against him doing that since they claim it
>has been that way since the 1700 somethings and should remain that way
>forever. Sigh......Guess I won't be staying in the clan castle anytime
>soon.
>Drat!
I agree with them. I'm not sure which castle you're referring to, but
it may have been destroyed in some historically-significant way. It
would be grotesque to have it restored now, with a conservatory and
underfloor heating and whatnot.
>Marg (nee McCrindle, a bastardized, Canadianized version of MacRonald).
MacDonald, shurely? Is that a real name or a subliminal advertisement?
JW McCrindle was a great late-19th century historian and Orientalist.
The name is certainly one of the recognised branches of the MacDonald
clan, perhaps you mean it's only you who is bastardised. I fear you're
too hard on yourself.
--
AH
pandora
> pandora goes:
>
> >"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
> >news:6kfhi1posglms4lsq...@4ax.com...
> >> pandora goes:
> >> >"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:5gfei1dmpdro47fog...@4ax.com...
>
> >> >> While looking up some information on Doric Scots, I happened on the
> >> >> website of the Rosehearty Community, from the eponymous town in
> >> >> Aberdeenshire in NE Scotland (between Banff and Fraserburgh, if you
> >> >> must know).
>
> >> >Interesting place indeed. I took a look and spent the rest of the day
> >> >wandering around Scotland. I found some nice maps and my family's
> >ancestral
> >> >home. We even have a castle although it's in ruins. Thanks!
>
> >> I'm glad to hear it.
>
> >Which? That I had a nice time OR that our castle is in ruins?
>
> Why, yes.
:-)
> >By the bye,
> >the 24th Laird of Clan Ranald is trying to rebuild our castle. The
> >conservationists in Scotland are against him doing that since they claim
it
> >has been that way since the 1700 somethings and should remain that way
> >forever. Sigh......Guess I won't be staying in the clan castle anytime
> >soon.
>
> >Drat!
>
> I agree with them. I'm not sure which castle you're referring to, but
> it may have been destroyed in some historically-significant way. It
> would be grotesque to have it restored now, with a conservatory and
> underfloor heating and whatnot.
It is Castle Tioram and was destroyed in 1715 by the owners to keep it out
of the enemy's hands.
> >Marg (nee McCrindle, a bastardized, Canadianized version of MacRonald).
>
> MacDonald, shurely? Is that a real name or a subliminal advertisement?
Heh.
> JW McCrindle was a great late-19th century historian and Orientalist.
> The name is certainly one of the recognised branches of the MacDonald
> clan, perhaps you mean it's only you who is bastardised. I fear you're
> too hard on yourself.
Yeah, well, Canadians tend to put themselves down, a lot I think.
Marg
>
>
> --
> AH
>
>
Hip Liz
>
> It is Castle Tioram and was destroyed in 1715 by the owners to keep it out
> of the enemy's hands.
As with many, including that gloriously famous ruin by Loch Ness.
Can't rebuild such places; the enemy is still out there. Only now
they'd put out signs and let out the rooms to tourists.
Alan Hope
>It is Castle Tioram and was destroyed in 1715 by the owners to keep it out
>of the enemy's hands.
It's a magnificent ruin. Here:
http://www.darkisle.com/t/tioram/tioram.html
There's an interesting article on the reconstruction plans here:
--
AH
Alan Hope
>It is Castle Tioram and was destroyed in 1715 by the owners to keep it out
>of the enemy's hands.
It's a magnificent ruin. Here:
http://www.darkisle.com/t/tioram/tioram.html
There's an interesting article on the reconstruction plans here:
http://www.tioram.org/
that cites dear old Muriel Gray's article in The Sunday Herald.
"When the magnificent grey tower came into view, backed by the
glittering sea and the green gem of Eilean Shona, it's an
understatement to say that it took the breath away. Much of
Ardnamurchan's landscape is imbued with a fairytale quality, but
nowhere more so than the magical few acres that contain and surround
Eilein Tioram and the ruined castle that sits on its rocks. Forests of
oak, pine, birch and rowan grow to the sea's edge and lend the water a
deep green-blue hue, and the delicate arc of white sand that curves
towards the tiny islet shames the designers of computer fantasy games
who struggle to invent the beautiful and impossible. In case you think
I have completely lost my mind and am trying to persuade the editor
that I should be given a hill-walking column, let me plead that this
sentimental reminiscing has a point."
--
AH
pandora
"Hip Liz" <euph...@iname.com> wrote in message
news:1126887927.5...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Probably. However, the Laird was planning on turning it into his residence.
Doesn't mean he wouldn't also 'let out' rooms.
Marg
> - hl
> hippolyte.blogspot.com
>
pandora
> pandora goes:
>
> >It is Castle Tioram and was destroyed in 1715 by the owners to keep it
out
> >of the enemy's hands.
>
> It's a magnificent ruin. Here:
> http://www.darkisle.com/t/tioram/tioram.html
Yes, it is! And thank you for that. I now have many lovely pictures of it
to save and pass on to my family; mostly my brother, Deryl James McCrindle,
who will be ecstatic.
> There's an interesting article on the reconstruction plans here:
> http://www.tioram.org/
> that cites dear old Muriel Gray's article in The Sunday Herald.
>
> "When the magnificent grey tower came into view, backed by the
> glittering sea and the green gem of Eilean Shona, it's an
> understatement to say that it took the breath away. Much of
> Ardnamurchan's landscape is imbued with a fairytale quality, but
> nowhere more so than the magical few acres that contain and surround
> Eilein Tioram and the ruined castle that sits on its rocks. Forests of
> oak, pine, birch and rowan grow to the sea's edge and lend the water a
> deep green-blue hue, and the delicate arc of white sand that curves
> towards the tiny islet shames the designers of computer fantasy games
> who struggle to invent the beautiful and impossible. In case you think
> I have completely lost my mind and am trying to persuade the editor
> that I should be given a hill-walking column, let me plead that this
> sentimental reminiscing has a point."
>
Indeed. Very interesting.
Great site, great information, great castle.
Thanks again.
Marg
> --
> AH
>
>