Anti-Americans
Echosyn
wholesome and holy.
-Echosyn
gekko
out! 'AUUUGGGH!' Echosyn <non_...@copper.net> screamed. '...
> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> wholesome and holy.
hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
--
gekko
Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil them
first for seven hours, they always come out tender. -- W. C. Fields
Alan Hope
>Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>wholesome and holy.
Tough shit. You're living in his country now. He's your president for
the next eight years. Get fucking used to it.
Bill Penrose
> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> wholesome and holy.
Pssst. There's been an election, and even neocons aren't claiming
fraud.
Whatever El Elyon is.
DB
Pies de Arcilla
> On Dec 30, 5:29 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
>
> > Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> > wholesome and holy.
>
> Pssst. There's been an election, and even neocons aren't claiming
> fraud.
Even neocons aren't claiming fraud _sufficient to have affected the
outcome_. I'm sure there was some fraud, somewhere.
Pies de Arcilla
>eight years.
That's a little presumptuous.
Pies de Arcilla
> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> wholesome and holy.
I'm conservative, and I expect Obama to be a conservative president.
He'll have to be, because people will be so on guard against him being
a liberal.
Towse
El Elyon - God Most High (or the equivalent)
ref: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elyon>
Our gekko with her religion studies background and Our Wendy with her
old languages and religion studies background can probably give more
detail than this unbaptised heathen.
(almost wrote "heather" ... Sorry, Heather!)
--
Sal
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the terminally curious <http://writers.internet-resources.com>
Dan Goodman
You mean the way FDR didn't dare to be a liberal? Or the way Reagan
didn't dare to be a conservative?
My prediction: It'll be at least twenty years before there's another
conservative in the White House.
--
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boots
>Echosyn goes:
>
>>Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>>wholesome and holy.
>
>Tough shit. You're living in his country now. He's your president for
>the next eight years. Get fucking used to it.
Four years.
Count the other four chickens after they're hatched.
Fucksake, I'm surprised that a population stupid enough to re-elect
Bush ever elected Obama in the first place, to imagine them to have
sense enough to re-elect him is naivte of the first order.
Besides, it's possible he could turn out to be geek-fluff and not
worth re-electing, it's too early to know for sure since he hasn't
even been inaugurated yet.
--
Don't read this crap... oops, too late!
[superstitious heathen grade 8]
boots
>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot rang
>out! 'AUUUGGGH!' Echosyn <non_...@copper.net> screamed. '...
>
>
>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>> wholesome and holy.
>
>hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
Duckwit is sounding more and more like Geno. You s'pose it's actually
Geno in disguys, or do ya think it's a disease he caught from Geno?
serenebabe
Stan (the Man)
c31f57...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 30, 5:29 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>> wholesome and holy.
>
> Pssst. There's been an election, and even neocons aren't claiming
> fraud.
<http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/best_movie_line.html>
Take that, DB!
--
Stan
Alan Hope
>On Dec 30, 10:11 pm, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>eight years.
>
>That's a little presumptuous.
Get back to me in 2012 when I'm wrong, and I'll shine your shoes for
you.
Alan Hope
>Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Echosyn goes:
>>>Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>>>wholesome and holy.
>>Tough shit. You're living in his country now. He's your president for
>>the next eight years. Get fucking used to it.
>Four years.
>Count the other four chickens after they're hatched.
Yeah right.
Alan Hope
gekko
> gekko <Miz....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
>>rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!' Echosyn <non_...@copper.net> screamed.
>>'...
>>
>>
>>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>>> wholesome and holy.
>>
>>hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
>
> Duckwit is sounding more and more like Geno. You s'pose it's
> actually Geno in disguys, or do ya think it's a disease he caught
> from Geno?
>
Echo is not Geno. He formed his ideology independently and it
happens to mostly align with Geno's. This can occur in real life,
believe it or not boots. You would know this, if you had any actual
real life friends and acquaintences. In fact, there may be a few
whiny-assed mountain-man curmudgeons hiding out there who are *just
like you*, even as I type this. They may even be the sort who
imagine they just have the answers to everything. They may be the
sort who like to open their jaws and let their pearls pour forth
copiously regardless of their actual knowledge. Imagine.
gekko
out! 'AUUUGGGH!' boots <n...@no.no> screamed. '...
> Fucksake, I'm surprised that a population stupid enough to re-elect
> Bush ever elected Obama in the first place, to imagine them to have
> sense enough to re-elect him is naivte of the first order.
You kidding? You see that water-into-wine bit he did? People always
love that trick.
boots
>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot rang
>out! 'AUUUGGGH!' boots <n...@no.no> screamed. '...
>
>
>> Fucksake, I'm surprised that a population stupid enough to re-elect
>> Bush ever elected Obama in the first place, to imagine them to have
>> sense enough to re-elect him is naivte of the first order.
>
>You kidding? You see that water-into-wine bit he did? People always
>love that trick.
Sorry, I have no TV.
boots
>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
>rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!' boots <n...@no.no> screamed. '...
>
>
>> gekko <Miz....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
>>>rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!' Echosyn <non_...@copper.net> screamed.
>>>'...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>>>> wholesome and holy.
>>>
>>>hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
>>
>> Duckwit is sounding more and more like Geno. You s'pose it's
>> actually Geno in disguys, or do ya think it's a disease he caught
>> from Geno?
>>
>
>Echo is not Geno. He formed his ideology independently and it
>happens to mostly align with Geno's. This can occur in real life,
>believe it or not boots. You would know this, if you had any actual
>real life friends and acquaintences. In fact, there may be a few
>whiny-assed mountain-man curmudgeons hiding out there who are *just
>like you*, even as I type this. They may even be the sort who
>imagine they just have the answers to everything. They may be the
>sort who like to open their jaws and let their pearls pour forth
>copiously regardless of their actual knowledge. Imagine.
Just imagine that. People who don't spend their waking hours
complaining about other people talking on cellphones while they're in
line for checkout. People who don't complain about their service
providers and what scumbags they are, who just change providers and
get on with life. It's fucking amazing.
boots
>Pies de Arcilla goes:
>
>>On Dec 30, 7:29 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
>>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>>> wholesome and holy.
>
>>I'm conservative, and I expect Obama to be a conservative president.
>>He'll have to be, because people will be so on guard against him being
>>a liberal.
>
>What people?
The nutjobs who still have "McCain/Palin" stickers on their
mega-diesel four wheel drive dualie pickups that have never been
offroad or pulled a load since they came from the showroom floor.
> How will that stop him?
Brute force and ignorance, tried and true method since the cave was
modern.
Dan Goodman
> On 2008-12-31 00:04:21 -0500, Pies de Arcilla <dear...@gmail.com>
> said:
>
> >On Dec 30, 11:40 pm, Bill Penrose <dangerousb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>On Dec 30, 5:29 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> > > > wholesome and holy.
> > >
> > > Pssst. There's been an election, and even neocons aren't claiming
> > > fraud.
> >
> > Even neocons aren't claiming fraud _sufficient to have affected the
> > outcome_. I'm sure there was some fraud, somewhere.
>
> In all directions.
Not in _all_. I'm fairly sure neither the Libertarians nor the Greens
stuffed any ballot boxes or deliberately miscounted votes.
Bill Penrose
> > Whatever El Elyon is.
>
> El Elyon - God Most High (or the equivalent)
> ref: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elyon>
I thought maybe it was a new synthetic fabric.
> Our gekko with her religion studies background
Gek? Religious studies? Now my Universe is upside down and I know the
End Times are here.
DB
Bill Penrose
wrote:
You probably saw it on TV the other day like I did. (WQ watches a lot
of old movies.)
One of my favorite Bob Hope lines, too.
DB
Bill Penrose
> My prediction: It'll be at least twenty years before there's another
> conservative in the White House.
Historically, Americans elect Democrats when the economy is in the
tank. When prosperity returns, they elect Republicans who spend it
all. It's a natural cycle, like the seasons.
It's in the book.
DB
Alan Hope
>Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Pies de Arcilla goes:
>>>On Dec 30, 7:29 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
>>>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>>>> wholesome and holy.
>>>I'm conservative, and I expect Obama to be a conservative president.
>>>He'll have to be, because people will be so on guard against him being
>>>a liberal.
>>What people?
>The nutjobs who still have "McCain/Palin" stickers on their
>mega-diesel four wheel drive dualie pickups that have never been
>offroad or pulled a load since they came from the showroom floor.
Who cares about them? Did Bush show a sign of caring about the people
who hadn't voted for him? I don't think so. That set the pattern.
>> How will that stop him?
>Brute force and ignorance, tried and true method since the cave was
>modern.
How will that stop him? I don't know if you missed the question, but
you certainly ignored it.
gekko
"Waaah. Waaah! People whose blogs I read don't dislike the
same things I whine about! Waaaaah!"
boots
That's a clever trick, you start whining then when I whine back you
signal a whine alert. I was foolish to start reading your posts
again. You never have had anything to say you know. Sure, you've
criticized far and near, but you've never said a thing.
boots
You're deliberately ignoring the hundreds of thousands of redneck
assholes in the USA who would consider it a feather in their KKK sheet
to assassinate the country's first black president. The Secret
Service may be good, but damn, it may take a miracle to keep the guy
breathing in the face of his inbred countrymen's bigotry and hatred.
Obama has been elected for a four-year term. If the nation is sane
and he delivers what he promises to deliver, he may be re-elected.
I think the country is fucking nuts myself, but I just live here so
wtf do I know.
gekko
your bad self, girlfriend!' So boots <n...@no.no> said,
> gekko <Miz....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
>>rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!' boots <n...@no.no> screamed. '...
>>
>>
>>> gekko <Miz....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
>>>>rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!' boots <n...@no.no> screamed. '...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> gekko <Miz....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a
>>>>>>shot rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!' Echosyn <non_...@copper.net>
>>>>>>screamed. '...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all
>>>>>>> things wholesome and holy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
>>>>>
>>>>> Duckwit is sounding more and more like Geno. You s'pose it's
>>>>> actually Geno in disguys, or do ya think it's a disease he
>>>>> caught from Geno?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Echo is not Geno. He formed his ideology independently and it
>>>>happens to mostly align with Geno's. This can occur in real
>>>>life, believe it or not boots. You would know this, if you had
>>>>any actual real life friends and acquaintances. In fact, there
>>>>may be a few whiny-assed mountain-man curmudgeons hiding out
>>>>there who are *just like you*, even as I type this. They may
>>>>even be the sort who imagine they just have the answers to
>>>>everything. They may be the sort who like to open their jaws
>>>>and let their pearls pour forth copiously regardless of their
>>>>actual knowledge. Imagine.
>>>
>>> Just imagine that. People who don't spend their waking hours
>>> complaining about other people talking on cellphones while
>>> they're in line for checkout. People who don't complain about
>>> their service providers and what scumbags they are, who just
>>> change providers and get on with life. It's fucking amazing.
>>>
>>
>>"Waaah. Waaah! People whose blogs I read don't dislike the
>>same things I whine about! Waaaaah!"
>
> That's a clever trick, you start whining then when I whine back
> you signal a whine alert. I was foolish to start reading your
> posts again. You never have had anything to say you know. Sure,
> you've criticized far and near, but you've never said a thing.
>
Sez the king of complaint.
--
gekko
The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing
that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot
possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible
to get at or repair. -- Douglas Adams, 1992
serenebabe
No way he'll be a liberal. He never has been. He'll be less
conservative than Bush, for sure. But, he's no Kucinich. He's just
about as progressive as our country can handle right now. He'll have
forces all around him (donors, other elected officials who also have
donors, and the media (did I mention donors?) pushing him to stay
"safe" and "re-electable." So, even if he were a liberal (wish) he'll
definitely have pressures keeping him as right as they can keep him.
serenebabe
Yeah. Sadly, I think that will keep repeating.
serenebabe
Just another nudge here saying that when you're not trying to do
battle, I find you interesting.
serenebabe
> serenebabe wrote:
>
>> On 2008-12-31 00:04:21 -0500, Pies de Arcilla <dear...@gmail.com>
>> said:
>>
>>> On Dec 30, 11:40 pm, Bill Penrose <dangerousb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 30, 5:29 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>>>>> wholesome and holy.
>>>>
>>>> Pssst. There's been an election, and even neocons aren't claiming
>>>> fraud.
>>>
>>> Even neocons aren't claiming fraud _sufficient to have affected the
>>> outcome_. I'm sure there was some fraud, somewhere.
>>
>> In all directions.
>
> Not in _all_. I'm fairly sure neither the Libertarians nor the Greens
> stuffed any ballot boxes or deliberately miscounted votes.
With the exception of screwing with people before they actually get to
vote (taking people off the lists, etc.), I don't think there was much
fraud anywhere. But, I think every party probably had at least one
coo-coo activist doing something illegal in favor of their particular
candidate.
Pies de Arcilla
> On 2008-12-31 10:13:26 -0500, Alan Hope <usenet.ident...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > Pies de Arcilla goes:
>
> >> On Dec 30, 7:29 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
> >>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> >>> wholesome and holy.
>
> >> I'm conservative, and I expect Obama to be a conservative president.
> >> He'll have to be, because people will be so on guard against him being
> >> a liberal.
>
> > What people? How will that stop him?
>
> No way he'll be a liberal. He never has been. He'll be less
> conservative than Bush, for sure.
I expect him to be more conservative than Bush.
Pies de Arcilla
> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> wholesome and holy.
El Elyon, Baal, it's all just theological hairsplitting anyhoo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ras_Shamra
Also, and this might be relevant,
"The most important of the great gods was Hadad, the king of Heaven"
serenebabe
You mean he'll spend less?
I could see that.
If that's not what you meant, what do you mean?
boots
You talkin' to me? I haven't tried to "do battle" in a while now. I
might have forgotten how one does that. Or why.
boots
ROFL.
serenebabe
> serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote:
<...>
>> Just another nudge here saying that when you're not trying to do
>> battle, I find you interesting.
>
> You talkin' to me? I haven't tried to "do battle" in a while now. I
> might have forgotten how one does that. Or why.
Oh, I noticed. I read more of your posts when you're the way you've
been lately.
What are you writing, lately?
boots
>On 2009-01-01 04:10:24 -0500, boots <n...@no.no> said:
>
>> serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote:
><...>
>>> Just another nudge here saying that when you're not trying to do
>>> battle, I find you interesting.
>>
>> You talkin' to me? I haven't tried to "do battle" in a while now. I
>> might have forgotten how one does that. Or why.
>
>Oh, I noticed. I read more of your posts when you're the way you've
>been lately.
>
>What are you writing, lately?
We put the tools away and moved into the house (house is probably
giving the wrong impression, it's a small cottage with a living area,
bathroom, and kitchen) a week and a half ago. Since then I've mostly
been a floorpuddle. Letting the constant adrenaline rush die off has
allowed the tiredness to become quite evident.
I've gotten back to work on my website software. There's a bunch of
work to do on it. Once it's done I'll have some kind of vehicle for
self-publishing. Might take a shot at a novel at that point. Might
turn into a floorpuddle again for a while.
The idea of writing a novel, sending it to some publisher who is just
looking to make the most from each deal, then waiting for a loveletter
from said schmuck because it's convenient for him to have a
no-simultaneous-submissions policy, well that just does not seem to
fly my kite.
So the short answer is "software and usenet posts".
serenebabe
<...>
> The idea of writing a novel, sending it to some publisher who is just
> looking to make the most from each deal, then waiting for a loveletter
> from said schmuck because it's convenient for him to have a
> no-simultaneous-submissions policy, well that just does not seem to
> fly my kite.
What would your novel be about, if you wrote it?
boots
>On 2009-01-01 10:50:21 -0500, boots <n...@no.no> said:
><...>
>> The idea of writing a novel, sending it to some publisher who is just
>> looking to make the most from each deal, then waiting for a loveletter
>> from said schmuck because it's convenient for him to have a
>> no-simultaneous-submissions policy, well that just does not seem to
>> fly my kite.
><...>
>
>What would your novel be about, if you wrote it?
Take 2 parts Forrest Gump, 1 part Harry Potter, mix with 3 parts The
Matrix, add a dash of Being There, bake at 350, then discard.
serenebabe
> serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-01-01 10:50:21 -0500, boots <n...@no.no> said:
>> <...>
>>> The idea of writing a novel, sending it to some publisher who is just
>>> looking to make the most from each deal, then waiting for a loveletter
>>> from said schmuck because it's convenient for him to have a
>>> no-simultaneous-submissions policy, well that just does not seem to
>>> fly my kite.
>> <...>
>>
>> What would your novel be about, if you wrote it?
>
> Take 2 parts Forrest Gump, 1 part Harry Potter, mix with 3 parts The
> Matrix, add a dash of Being There, bake at 350, then discard.
And, now, seriously? Do you have a story percolating in your head?
boots
>On 2009-01-01 11:45:14 -0500, boots <n...@no.no> said:
>
>> serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-01-01 10:50:21 -0500, boots <n...@no.no> said:
>>> <...>
>>>> The idea of writing a novel, sending it to some publisher who is just
>>>> looking to make the most from each deal, then waiting for a loveletter
>>>> from said schmuck because it's convenient for him to have a
>>>> no-simultaneous-submissions policy, well that just does not seem to
>>>> fly my kite.
>>> <...>
>>>
>>> What would your novel be about, if you wrote it?
>>
>> Take 2 parts Forrest Gump, 1 part Harry Potter, mix with 3 parts The
>> Matrix, add a dash of Being There, bake at 350, then discard.
>
>And, now, seriously?
Sorry, I thought I was being serious. Silly me.
> Do you have a story percolating in your head?
I'm not sure what it's filled with today, too much of something.
Bill Penrose
> The idea of writing a novel, sending it to some publisher who is just
> looking to make the most from each deal, then waiting for a loveletter
> from said schmuck because it's convenient for him to have a
> no-simultaneous-submissions policy, well that just does not seem to
> fly my kite.
Excuses. There are thousands of us out here, fruitlessly pounding
words onto pages in a hopeless quest that some mental defective may
someday want to read them. Where are you?
DB
(If publishers weren't out to make money, why the fuck would they deal
with the likes of you and me?)
Bill Penrose
> Take 2 parts Forrest Gump, 1 part Harry Potter, mix with 3 parts The
> Matrix, add a dash of Being There, bake at 350, then discard.
It's been done.
DB
$Zero
(was: Re: Anti-Americans)
that's an excellent question, Bill.
and it answers itself.
and people like me don't much like the implications.
because of all of the pure crap that is sold by other publishers.
anyway...
as an entrepreneur, what i like to do is think in reverse.
for instance, i always ask myself questions like:
what could i possibly invent that people
would feel they needed (or wanted)
to have in their car?
because given the amount of people with cars, if i answer that
question well, whoa. what a nice juicy market i've addressed (and
captured) based on my intellectual property rights alone!
so in the case of writing, one would ask themselves this question:
what can i write that someone
would be willing to pay me for?
and when i ask myself such a question, the answers always come
flooding in.
however, i reject most of the answers on principle.
but every once in a while, a gem that i thoroughly approve of
develops.
like:
http;//bickerfest.com
or:
or:
see how that works?
and no greedy dumfuck middlemen publishers to deal with whose
principles i wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
well, actually i WOULD piss on them if they were on fire, but if the
flames started to go out, i'd stop pissing for awhile.
-$Zero...
Happy New Year Position Flexible There Also!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/bf4fad1ab5ef4db8
$Zero
> changing the writers paradigm
>
> (was: Re: Anti-Americans)
>
> On Jan 1, 2:57 pm, Bill Penrose <dangerousb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 1, 8:50 am, boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
>
> > > The idea of writing a novel, sending it to some publisher who is just
> > > looking to make the most from each deal, then waiting for a loveletter
> > > from said schmuck because it's convenient for him to have a
> > > no-simultaneous-submissions policy, well that just does not seem to
> > > fly my kite.
>
> > Excuses. There are thousands of us out here, fruitlessly pounding
> > words onto pages in a hopeless quest that some mental defective may
> > someday want to read them. Where are you?
>
> > DB
> > (If publishers weren't out to make money, why the fuck would they deal
> > with the likes of you and me?)
>
> that's an excellent question, Bill.
>
> and it answers itself.
>
> and people like me don't much like the implications.
>
> because of all of the pure crap that is sold by other publishers.
and/or their self-serving hoops that they set up for you to jump
through aren't worth the investment in time verses the return on that
investment -- especially given how many publishers are arrogant self-
satisfied tyrants of one form or another.
> anyway...
>
> as an entrepreneur, what i like to do is think in reverse.
>
> for instance, i always ask myself questions like:
>
> what could i possibly invent that people
> would feel they needed (or wanted)
> to have in their car?
>
> because given the amount of people with cars, if i answer that
> question well, whoa. what a nice juicy market i've addressed
> (and captured) based on my intellectual property rights alone!
>
> so in the case of writing, one would ask themselves this question:
>
> what can i write that someone
> would be willing to pay me for?
>
> and when i ask myself such a question, the answers always
> come flooding in.
>
> however, i reject most of the answers on principle.
>
> but every once in a while, a gem that i thoroughly approve
> of develops.
>
> like:
>
> http;//bickerfest.com
[obligatory typo correction]
boots
boots
>On Jan 1, 8:50 am, boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
>> The idea of writing a novel, sending it to some publisher who is just
>> looking to make the most from each deal, then waiting for a loveletter
>> from said schmuck because it's convenient for him to have a
>> no-simultaneous-submissions policy, well that just does not seem to
>> fly my kite.
>
>Excuses. There are thousands of us out here, fruitlessly pounding
>words onto pages in a hopeless quest that some mental defective may
>someday want to read them.
That's exactly the problem. Supply exceeds demand. That means not
only do you have to be good enough to write something that grabs from
page-1 and never lets go, you have to be lucky enough to send it to
someone who has fewer than thousands of manuscripts to look through.
> Where are you?
I'm down in the boondocks Billy Joe, writing self-publishing software.
>DB
>(If publishers weren't out to make money, why the fuck would they deal
>with the likes of you and me?)
Because they have superb taste? Because they're pissed at the company
they work for and want to see them go bust? I dunno Bill, it's your
question, what's your answer?
boots
>and no greedy dumfuck middlemen publishers to deal with whose
>principles i wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
>
>well, actually i WOULD piss on them if they were on fire, but if the
>flames started to go out, i'd stop pissing for awhile.
Switch to lighter fluid, maybe, eh?
I don't have a problem with publishers. I figure if they read my book
online and want to negotiate a contract for hardcopy publication,
fine. But first I have a lot of writing to do. Software first, so I
don't have to beg on bended knee to get some overworked editor to
write me a form-letter after a few months. It's a lot more convenient
for me if those who don't like what I write just click away to some
other website, that way I don't have form-letter mail to dispose of.
$Zero
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >and no greedy dumdfuck middlemen publishers to deal with
> > whose principles i wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
> >
> >well, actually i WOULD piss on them if they were on fire, but if the
> >flames started to go out, i'd stop pissing for awhile.
>
> Switch to lighter fluid, maybe, eh?
>
> I don't have a problem with publishers.
i do.
because they're not interested enough in my creative genius brilliance
to contact me and beg on bended knee to get the rights to publish my
stuff.
they prefer ass-kissers.
> I figure if they read my book
> online and want to negotiate a contract for hardcopy publication,
> fine. But first I have a lot of writing to do. Software first, so I
> don't have to beg on bended knee to get some overworked editor to
> write me a form-letter after a few months.
you missed my second post:
and/or the self-serving hoops publishers set up
for you to jump through aren't worth the investment
in time verses the return on that investment --
especially given how many publishers are arrogant
self-satisfied tyrants of one form or another.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/e76905f27984ce88
> It's a lot more convenient
> for me if those who don't like what I write just click away to some
> other website, that way I don't have form-letter mail to dispose of.
LOL
-$Zero...
but i am only one vote.
ba'dum, chsh!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/92472526ab1335a1
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hatred of Bush.
I answered that there were two reasons why I didn't hate Bush:
1) I'm not a conservative
2) I'm not a Republican
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Sylvia
> Bill Penrose wrote:
<...>
> > Where are you?
>
> I'm down in the boondocks Billy Joe, writing self-publishing software.
<...>
<blink!>
The software writes, edits, prints and binds its own books? Distributes 'em?
Sets up signing tours? Gets itself promotional airtime?
That's amazin'.
<considering>
If it successfully negotiates contracts with publishing houses for its
sequels, then is it still considered "self-publishing software"?
--
Sylvia <--- Supreme Ruler of MW & a Petite Peep
"Two foot tall, yet rules them all! Less is more!"
boots
>boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
>
>> Bill Penrose wrote:
>
><...>
>> > Where are you?
>>
>> I'm down in the boondocks Billy Joe, writing self-publishing software.
><...>
>
> <blink!>
>
>The software writes, edits, prints and binds its own books? Distributes 'em?
>Sets up signing tours? Gets itself promotional airtime?
>
>That's amazin'.
'Specially when you consider it's all done with no paper whatsoever,
nothing but smoke and mirrors!
You've missed me, haven't ya. Go on, admit it. I won't pick on you
for it. Much.
> <considering>
>
>If it successfully negotiates contracts with publishing houses for its
>sequels, then is it still considered "self-publishing software"?
Even sends email reminders to send more money, go figure.
Now, where were you before you decided to play bait-the-gator?
Echosyn
> It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot rang
>
> > Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> > wholesome and holy.
>
>
> gekko
>
> Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil them
> first for seven hours, they always come out tender. -- W. C. Fields
Correctly define evil. El Elyon hates evil. Who are you to judge.
However, I was speaking with love in mathematically, historically and
spiritually correct terms that only those in His spirit understand.
Love the truth and sell it not.
Echosyn
> It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
>
>
>
> > gekko <Miz.Ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
> >>rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!'Echosyn<non_lo...@copper.net> screamed.
> >>'...
>
> >>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> >>> wholesome and holy.
>
> >>hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
>
> > actually Geno in disguys, or do ya think it's a disease he caught
> > from Geno?
>
> Echo is not Geno. He formed his ideology independently and it
> happens to mostly align with Geno's. This can occur in real life,
> believe it or not boots. You would know this, if you had any actual
> real life friends and acquaintences. In fact, there may be a few
> whiny-assed mountain-man curmudgeons hiding out there who are *just
> like you*, even as I type this. They may even be the sort who
> imagine they just have the answers to everything. They may be the
> sort who like to open their jaws and let their pearls pour forth
> copiously regardless of their actual knowledge. Imagine.
>
> gekko
>
> Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil them
> first for seven hours, they always come out tender. -- W. C. Fields
Correctly spoken, Gek. I deeply respect that you are more "statesman"
than "politician" in your MW exchanges; causes some here to glow
green. My political position cannot be neatly tucked into a
stereotypical filing system, and I see from 8 years of chat with you
that you are somewhat the same, though we differ in some areas. www.fee.org
comes closer to reflecting my values than any pub that I have seen.
Geno has my respect though we differ in issues concerning:
environmental sustainability, keeping true science apart from
politics, dealing with stray domestic animals, value of true science,
political party allegiance, living one's professed faith and rightly
dividing race, ethnicity and character.
-Earthloaf
Jackson Pillock
> On Dec 30 2008, 9:05 pm, gekko <Miz.Ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot rang
> > out! 'AUUUGGGH!'Echosyn<non_lo...@copper.net> screamed. '...
>
> > > Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> > > wholesome and holy.
>
> > hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
>
> > --
> > gekko
>
> > Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil them
> > first for seven hours, they always come out tender. -- W. C. Fields
>
> Correctly define evil. El Elyon hates evil.
How do you know that?
Who are you to judge.
> However, I was speaking with love in mathematically, historically and
> spiritually correct terms that only those in His spirit understand.
How do you know that?
> Love the truth and sell it not.
Aren't you just making stuff up and calling it truth?
Echosyn
Yahweh - El Shaddai - El Elyon - Jehova Rapha - Emmanuel - Jesus
Christ of Nazareth
"In the beginning God---."
So shut up, stay on the porch, do your homework and find some
integrity.
-Echosyn
Echosyn
You speak as one whose soul is a blank slate. There is no place on my
calendar for willful ignorance and stupidity.
-Echosyn
Jackson Pillock
Looks to me like you've got them booked solid.
>
> -Echosyn- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ray Haddad
>Pies de Arcilla <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 30, 7:29 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
>>> Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
>>> wholesome and holy.
>>
>>El Elyon, Baal, it's all just theological hairsplitting anyhoo.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ras_Shamra
>>
>>Also, and this might be relevant,
>>
>>"The most important of the great gods was Hadad, the king of Heaven"
>
>ROFL.
Yes, indeed. Kneel.
--
Ray
boots
Kneeling is not the proper posture, I'd need to bend over in order for
you to kiss my arse, and you can't be trusted not to kick; it would be
foolish as accepting a blowjob from a prostitute who grins with
sharply filed teeth.
serenebabe
> On Dec 31 2008, 9:40 am, gekko <Miz.Ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
<...>
>> Echo is not Geno. He formed his ideology independently and it
>> happens to mostly align with Geno's.
<...>
> Geno has my respect though we differ in issues concerning:
> environmental sustainability, keeping true science apart from
> politics, dealing with stray domestic animals, value of true science,
> political party allegiance, living one's professed faith and rightly
> dividing race, ethnicity and character.
I find this puzzling. If you differ in those areas, where do you agree
with him?
gekko
in
news:f114e0fd-3878-47ee...@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com
:
> On Dec 30 2008, 9:05 pm, gekko <Miz.Ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
>> rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!'Echosyn<non_lo...@copper.net> screamed. '...
>>
>> > Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all
>> > things wholesome and holy.
>>
>> hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
>>
>> --
>> gekko
>>
>> Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil
>> them first for seven hours, they always come out tender. -- W.
>> C. Fields
>
> Correctly define evil. El Elyon hates evil.
Only God can really define evil. Mankind's attempts have always been
more aligned with "those who are different than I am are evil" than
with true evil, as history shows.
> Who are you to
> judge.
Oh, snort. I am a child of God. God permits judgement, hon.
> However, I was speaking with love in mathematically,
> historically and spiritually correct terms that only those in His
> spirit understand.
No, you weren't.
> Love the truth and sell it not.
Hatred in the name of God is the worst kind, pooks. Hating others of
God's children is a sin against God. Love others, 'loaf. Even those
who believe differently than you. Who are you, but a flawed human
who merely strives to commune with God's Spirit? You cannot know
God's plan, ergo you cannot know that Obama does not perfectly serve
His will.
Pray on it, babes, but this time, *listen* more than speak.
--
gekko
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still
call him vile names. -- Elbert Hubbard
gekko
posted in news:gjo3vb$8a9$1...@news.albasani.net:
> On 2009-01-03 06:34:17 -0500, Echosyn <non_...@copper.net> said:
>
>> On Dec 31 2008, 9:40 am, gekko <Miz.Ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <...>
>>> Echo is not Geno. He formed his ideology independently and it
>>> happens to mostly align with Geno's.
> <...>
>> Geno has my respect though we differ in issues concerning:
>> environmental sustainability, keeping true science apart from
>> politics, dealing with stray domestic animals, value of true
>> science, political party allegiance, living one's professed
>> faith and rightly dividing race, ethnicity and character.
>
> I find this puzzling. If you differ in those areas, where do you
> agree with him?
>
Recipes -- mostly in the correct sauces to use when barbecuing cats.
Sylvia
> On 3 Jan, 11:05, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
> > gekko <Miz.Ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Echosyn<non_lo...@copper.net> screamed. '...
.
> > > > Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all things
> > > > wholesome and holy.
.
> > > hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
.
> > Correctly define evil. El Elyon hates evil.
.
> How do you know that?
<hopping up and down and waving hand>
Ooooh! *I* know! *I* know! Pick me, Mr. Pillock, MEEEEEE!
Lookit, it's here on page 47 of the "Big Book of El":
"At first there is only darkness, whereupon
El Elyon doth appear from the heavens and
speaketh thus:
" 'Verily, I like Pina Coladas,
and getting caught in the rain,
I am not into evil,
but I groove on champagne'
"And out of the darkness El's mom speaketh thus:
" 'Turn on a light if yer gonna recite,
you wanna go blind, or wot?' "
So, mebbe, not "*hates* evil", but despite being responsible for its creation
to begin with, El now prefers to disassociate himself from it.
> > Who are you to judge. However, I was speaking with love in
> > mathematically, historically and spiritually correct terms that only
> > those in His spirit understand.
<staring>
His Guy in the Sky speaks to him in *mathematical* terms?
<whispering>
Pssst! Mr. Pillock! I've seen this happen before to peeps who aren't capable
of handling differential equations--their brains fry.
</whispering>
> How do you know that?
'Cause he and El have got a monotheistic deterministic relationship.
<rolling through mid-air in petite fit of laughter>
Just a petite bit of mathematike humo(u)r there!
> > Love the truth and sell it not.
"What is the tithe? It is the 'gateway for the believer
into the covenant of blessings.' [...] The tithe is that
tenth of our income that we give to God" -- www.bible.com
> Aren't you just making stuff up and calling it truth?
Well, of course he is, Mr. Pillock! If we could take away the "making stuff up
and calling it truth" from religions, they'd all go "POOF!", doncha know.
Except for the Olympians, they're real. I know this because Zeus spoke to me
through a geometric corollary.
--
Sylvia
Jackson Pillock
> Mr. Pillock wrote:
>
> Ooooh! *I* know! *I* know! Pick me, Mr. Pillock, MEEEEEE!
>
> Lookit, it's here on page 47 of the "Big Book of El":
>
> "At first there is only darkness, whereupon
> El Elyon doth appear from the heavens and
> speaketh thus:
>
> " 'Verily, I like Pina Coladas,
> and getting caught in the rain,
> I am not into evil,
> but I groove on champagne'
The Devil drinks Cava.
>
> "And out of the darkness El's mom speaketh thus:
>
> " 'Turn on a light if yer gonna recite,
> you wanna go blind, or wot?' "
Sound. El's mom is wisdom, according to certain scribes.
>
> So, mebbe, not "*hates* evil", but despite being responsible for its creation
> to begin with, El now prefers to disassociate himself from it.
>
> > > Who are you to judge. However, I was speaking with love in
> > > mathematically, historically and spiritually correct terms that only
> > > those in His spirit understand.
>
> <staring>
>
> His Guy in the Sky speaks to him in *mathematical* terms?
Mathematical, historical and spiritual, don't you know: intangible
dialectical equations.
>
> <whispering>
>
> Pssst! Mr. Pillock! I've seen this happen before to peeps who aren't capable
> of handling differential equations--their brains fry.
This is your brain on math.
>
> </whispering>
>
> > How do you know that?
>
> 'Cause he and El have got a monotheistic deterministic relationship.
>
> <rolling through mid-air in petite fit of laughter>
>
> Just a petite bit of mathematike humo(u)r there!
>
> > > Love the truth and sell it not.
>
> "What is the tithe? It is the 'gateway for the believer
> into the covenant of blessings.' [...] The tithe is that
> tenth of our income that we give to God" -- www.bible.com
>
> > Aren't you just making stuff up and calling it truth?
>
> Well, of course he is, Mr. Pillock! If we could take away the "making stuff up
> and calling it truth" from religions, they'd all go "POOF!", doncha know.
>
> Except for the Olympians, they're real. I know this because Zeus spoke to me
> through a geometric corollary.
Ganesh once set me a complicated speed-time-distance problem. I got it
right.
>
> --
> Sylvia
Towse
> Ganesh once set me a complicated speed-time-distance problem. I got it
> right.
Big hit these days: statues showing Ganesh with laptop
<http://flickr.com/photos/cariberry/2632866265/>
--
Sal
Ye olde swarm of links: thousands of links for writers, researchers and
the terminally curious <http://writers.internet-resources.com>
gekko
to misc.writing, saying ...
> Jackson Pillock wrote:
>
>> Ganesh once set me a complicated speed-time-distance problem. I
>> got it right.
>
> Big hit these days: statues showing Ganesh with laptop
> <http://flickr.com/photos/cariberry/2632866265/>
>
>
>
Ganesh rocks.
--
gekko
Save the whales. Collect the whole set.
Pies de Arcilla
Sylvia wrote:
> Well, of course he is, Mr. Pillock! If we could take away the "making stuff up
> and calling it truth" from religions, they'd all go "POOF!", doncha know.
I don't like any of the existing religions, and I sometimes have
delusions of grandeur.
The problem is, God talks to me, and he told me the first commandment
is, don't start a religion.
I got a book called "Wanting Enlightenment is a Big Mistake"
Pies de Arcilla
What, you don't believe in the old time religion?
Ejucaided Redneck
> What, you don't believe in the old time religion?
Pete Seeger suggested we do so:
We will pray to Aphrodite
She's beautiful but flighty
In her silken see-thru nightie
She's good enough for me.
We will pray to Zarathrustra,
Pray just like we used-to,
I'm a Zarathrustra booster,
He's good enough for me.
All the lyrics at: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4448
--
The Devil made me do it the first time.
Second time I done it on my own.
-- Billy Joe Shaver ("Black Rose")
--
http://bobsloansampler.com/
Now available: "Nobody Knows, Nobody Sees"
MISSING MOUNTAINS: http://www.windpub.com/books/missing.htm
Sylvia
> Pies de Arcilla wrote:
>
> > What, you don't believe in the old time religion?
>
> Pete Seeger suggested we do so:
>
> We will pray to Aphrodite
> She's beautiful but flighty
> In her silken see-thru nightie
> She's good enough for me.
>
> We will pray to Zarathrustra,
> Pray just like we used-to,
> I'm a Zarathrustra booster,
> He's good enough for me.
dammit! Ya beat me to it!
> All the lyrics at: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4448
<...>
<stomping one petite foot and singing>
"We will pray just like the Druids,
Drinking strange fermented fluids,
Go dancing naked through the woods,
They're good enough for me.
"We will pray to the god Buddha,
Of gods there is none cuter,
Come in silver, brass or pewter,
He's good enough for me.
"We will pray to Ra and Ahmen
Just like Tutankhamen,
And teach our friends embalming,
They're good enough for me."
BTW, Mr. ER, shamey, shamey, yer *soooo* gonna burn in hell.
(Did ya get yer invitation to my "One Hell of a Party!" there?)
--
Sylvia <--- Thy Supreme Ruler
"For MIZ SYLVIA thy SUPREME RULER is a consuming fire,
an Irresistible Read, you cannot rEsiST thE URgE."
-- Sir Harvey 4:24
Sylvia
Echosyn <non_...@copper.net> wrote:
> Pies de Arcilla wrote:
> > On Dec 30, 7:29 pm,Echosyn<non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon
One.
> > > and all things wholesome and holy.
> >
> > El Elyon, Baal,
Two.
> > it's all just theological hairsplitting anyhoo.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ras_Shamra
> >
> > Also, and this might be relevant,
> >
> > "The most important of the great gods was Hadad, the king of Heaven"
Three.
> Yahweh - El Shaddai - El Elyon - Jehova Rapha - Emmanuel - Jesus
> Christ of Nazareth
<...>
Lessee... that's eight.
<making note of tally>
Only eight billion, nine hundred and ninety nine million, nine hundred and
ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety two to go until all of the stars
go out over the world of MW.
<blink!>
I'll have to stock the Emporium with flashlights! I'll make a mint!
<beaming!>
Well, not from the city folk, of course...
--
Sylvia (It's Obscure Reference Week in MW!)
Sylvia
> Sylvia wrote:
> > Mr. Pillock wrote:
> > > Echosyn<non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
.
> > > > Who are you to judge. However, I was speaking with love in
> > > > mathematically, historically and spiritually correct terms that only
> > > > those in His spirit understand.
> >
> > <staring>
> >
> > His Guy in the Sky speaks to him in *mathematical* terms?
>
>
> Mathematical, historical and spiritual, don't you know: intangible
> dialectical equations.
Oooooh! Scawy!
> > <whispering>
> >
> > Pssst! Mr. Pillock! I've seen this happen before to peeps who aren't
> > capable of handling differential equations--their brains fry.
>
> This is your brain on math.
> >
> > </whispering>
> >
> > > How do you know that?
> >
> > 'Cause he and El have got a monotheistic deterministic relationship.
> >
> > <rolling through mid-air in petite fit of laughter>
> >
> > Just a petite bit of mathematike humo(u)r there!
> >
> > > > Love the truth and sell it not.
> >
> > "What is the tithe? It is the 'gateway for the believer
> > into the covenant of blessings.' [...] The tithe is that tenth of
> > our income that we give to God" -- www.bible.com
> >
> > > Aren't you just making stuff up and calling it truth?
> >
> > Well, of course he is, Mr. Pillock! If we could take away the "making
> > stuff up and calling it truth" from religions, they'd all go "POOF!",
> > doncha know.
> >
> > Except for the Olympians, they're real. I know this because Zeus spoke to
> > me through a geometric corollary.
>
> Ganesh once set me a complicated speed-time-distance problem. I got it
> right.
Braggart.
<trying to peek at Mr. Pillock paper>
Whatcha get? Huh? Is it the one about Charon's Soul Train leaving Los Angeles
for the Elysian Fields and traveling at a 47 dolichos per hora equinoctal
speed? I know I got it right, but before I hand in my test I'm just curious to
see wot you got.
Move yer arm, dammnit!
--
Sylvia
Jackson Pillock
>
> > Ganesh once set me a complicated speed-time-distance problem. I got it
> > right.
>
> Braggart.
>
> <trying to peek at Mr. Pillock paper>
>
> Whatcha get? Huh? Is it the one about Charon's Soul Train leaving Los Angeles
> for the Elysian Fields and traveling at a 47 dolichos per hora equinoctal
> speed? I know I got it right, but before I hand in my test I'm just curious to
> see wot you got.
>
> Move yer arm, dammnit!
Just put infinity for everything.
Sylvia
Thanks, Mr. Pillock! Yer a pal!
<scribble! scribble! scribble!>
<figure! figure! figure!>
Wot the...?
<erase! erase! erase!>
<scribble! scribble! scribble!>
<figure! figure! figure!>
<blink!>
<suddenly realizing that "Just put infinity for everything" doesn't
mean that that's wot Mr. Pillock did>
HEY! Get back here, you! Lemme see yer damned paper!
--
Sylvia
Echosyn
> I asked for a puppy. Instead, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> posted
> innews:f114e0fd-3878-47ee...@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com
> :
>
>
>
> > On Dec 30 2008, 9:05 pm, gekko <Miz.Ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> It was a dark and stormy night in misc.writing. Suddenly, a shot
> >> rang out! 'AUUUGGGH!'Echosyn<non_lo...@copper.net> screamed. '...
>
> >> > Any person for Obama is against America, El Elyon and all
> >> > things wholesome and holy.
>
> >> hatred in the name of religion is the worst kind, earthloaf.
>
> >> --
> >> gekko
>
> >> Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil
> >> them first for seven hours, they always come out tender. -- W.
> >> C. Fields
>
> > Correctly define evil. El Elyon hates evil.
>
> Only God can really define evil. Mankind's attempts have always been
> more aligned with "those who are different than I am are evil" than
> with true evil, as history shows.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Phillipians 2.5-8 Let this mind be in you, which
was also in Christ Jesus.----
> > Who are you to
> > judge.
> Oh, snort. I am a child of God. God permits judgement, hon.
Butr not from a carnal mind.
> > However, I was speaking with love in mathematically,
> > historically and spiritually correct terms that only those in His
> > spirit understand.
>
> No, you weren't.
I will acqiesce when you can change a vine into a tree or vice versa
using only things from nature on nature's terms and at biological
level energy.
> > Love the truth and sell it not.
>
> Hatred in the name of God is the worst kind, pooks. Hating others of
> God's children is a sin against God.
I fully agree.
Love others, 'loaf. Even those
> who believe differently than you.
I do, but not their evil, per God's mind, deeds.
Who are you, but a flawed human
> who merely strives to commune with God's Spirit?
Striving is what the unwashed and naive do. You do not know my
history.
You cannot know God's plan, ergo you cannot know that Obama does not
perfectly serve
> His will.
Those words come from a carnal mind that has not the gifts of His
Spirit.
> Pray on it, babes, but this time, *listen* more than speak.
So the apprentice advises the journeyman.
> --
> gekko
>
> If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still
> call him vile names. -- Elbert Hubbard
Remarkable job of misunderstanding. For a rounded perspective on hate
consult Cruden's Concordance. Examples:
Psalm 97.10 Ye that love the Lord, hate evil: He preserveth the souls
of His saints; He delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
Psalm 139.21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, who hate thee? ---
Isaiah 1.14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul
hateth:----
And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbor;
and love no false oath; for all these are things that I hate, saith
the Lord.
The Word is a living thing that is to be understood and related to as
one relates to a friend who one has come to know after years of close
acquaintance. Cut it apart and it bleeds.
I labored 7 years to understand an anomaly that I witnessed in
nature. The best minds in government and in the universities could
not explain that anomaly. Through the Jews I found the answer, and
that answer was a portal into the deepest secrets of nature and the
ineffable beauty of our Creator. ONE divided by Phi equals ONE + Phi.
Study Solomon's Temple and t math in the Jewish tradition.
Earthloaf the Jachin, Guardian of the East Pillar
gekko
He who truly walks with God does not need to damn others on Usenet.
--
gekko
Opinions are like noses: everyone has one, and most smell.
Sylvia
gekko <Miz....@gmail.com> wrote:
> He who truly walks with God does not need to damn others on Usenet.
He doesn't get to say "fuck", either.
He who truly walks with a bucket of gasoline does not need to be carryin' the
Olympic Torch.
He who truly walks with Goering does not need to be sayin' "Ha! Hitler looks
about as 'Master Race' as my dog".
--
Sylvia
Stan (the Man)
news:sylvia-CE59AC....@newsfarm.nyc.highwinds-media.com:
Ok, this is all secret woman code, right? You know, like whatever
imperceptible thingie y'all do that makes y'all get up from the dinner table
at the same time to take a leak.
Right?
--
Stan
Sylvia
> Sylvia wrote:
> > gekko <Miz....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> He who truly walks with God does not need to damn others on Usenet.
> >
> > He doesn't get to say "fuck", either.
> >
> >
> > He who truly walks with a bucket of gasoline does not need to be
> > carryin' the Olympic Torch.
> >
> > He who truly walks with Goering does not need to be sayin' "Ha! Hitler
> > looks about as 'Master Race' as my dog".
>
> Ok, this is all secret woman code, right?
No, that would be: "The dog barks at midnight".
No, wait... *that's* secret agent code. I'd tell ya what secret woman code is,
but then I'd have to kill ya.
<perk!>
Did I mention that Zeus gave me a new cool Thunder SNFx Remote Thingy for
Christmas? So, wot are you doin' tomorrow at dawn?
> You know, like whatever imperceptible thingie y'all do that makes y'all get
> up from the dinner table at the same time to take a leak.
>
> Right?
Wrong. That would be you lightin' one of yer ceegars.
And, I have no idea why some women would have the urge to leave the dinner
table to head for the litter box with other women. If it's a rule, I didn't
get the memo.
I'm the one wot steals their chocolate cake while they're gone.
--
Sylvia (don't tell, 'K?)
Stan (the Man)
news:sylvia-EBE6E3....@newsfarm.nyc.highwinds-media.com:
Or feeds their very expensive and very unloyal Labs snausages.
--
Stan
Sylvia
Nonsense. I'd rather steal their chocolate cake.
I only slip Snausages (tm) to your Miz Casey, and she's *always* loyal about
doin' her part in playin' tricks on you when she accepts my bribes.
So, there.
--
Sylvia
"Walls make the room. Definitely walls.
Ask Fortunato if you don't believe me."
-- Mr. FRM
Echosyn
> He who truly walks with God does not need to damn others on Usenet.
So very very true, gek.
> --
> gekko
>
> Opinions are like noses: everyone has one, and most smell.
Please do tell me where I did that. Damnation is a self-imposed
thingie like the punk who killed one of our top cops yesterday.
My ONE thingie is to spur folks to quit being normal in the popular
sense and be normal in the original sense. On every continent there
are sand covered dead civilizations who sang "Vox Populi Vox Dei" in
their assorted languages. They were normal but not necessarily
natural.
Earthloaf
Stan (the Man)
news:sylvia-36DD88....@newsfarm.nyc.highwinds-media.com:
Yeah, well, Casey licked your piece of deep-fried turkey while you were
reaching for potato salad.
--
Stan
Echosyn
> Mr. Stan (the Man) wrote:
>
> > Sylvia wrote:
Touch my German chocolate and I'll garotte you below the last rib.
Where's the Chocolate Lady!!!
Echosyn
gekko
the number 42 in the Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy series, but DID
present the following for evaluation in misc.writing:
> Please do tell me where I did that.
At the top of this thread, hon. Do you need me to quote you?
You're intelligent beyond the point of being intelligible. You think
in circles beyond what human beings think. You have your perceived
connections to God. Be content with that and do not worry yourself
about earthly matters. Let people who support Obama and believe in
his message stay undamned by you. Let God work His will as he will,
without your flawed "help."
Seek the joy of the Spirit Within. Those who need God's help will
find it without your derision.
--
gekko
A banker is a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is
shining and wants it back the minute it begins to rain. -- Mark
Twain
Echosyn
> On 2009-01-03 06:34:17 -0500, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> said:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 31 2008, 9:40 am, gekko <Miz.Ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <...>
> >> Echo is not Geno. He formed his ideology independently and it
> >> happens to mostly align with Geno's.
> <...>
> > Geno has my respect though we differ in issues concerning:
> > environmental sustainability, keeping true science apart from
> > politics, dealing with stray domestic animals, value of true science,
> > political party allegiance, living one's professed faith and rightly
> > dividing race, ethnicity and character.
>
> I find this puzzling. If you differ in those areas, where do you agree
> with him?
>
> It's All About We! (the column)http://www.serenebabe.net/- new 12/27
Sorry 'bout the late reply. That's a fair question. We're both to
the right of moderate, but he is far right to the point of racism and
endorsing the white supremacist "manifest destiny" hogwash. We are
both against Marxism/ socialism/communism and know that those do not
have association with Christianity. We see the virtues and flaws in
capitalism as it is practiced and prefer capitalism as expounded at
www.fee.org. We hold that the American constitutional government is
the best form of government ever created by mankind.
Echosyn
serenebabe
I see.
> We hold that the American constitutional government is
> the best form of government ever created by mankind.
I wouldn't go *that* far. But, as it was intended to be originally,
it's a pretty fan-fucking-tastic form of government. Part of what makes
it great is that we're supposed to entirely reject it if/when it fails.
http://www.truepat.org/ is one of my favorite sites/organizations.
Patriotism is "progressive," not "conservative."
--
It's All About We! (the column)
http://www.serenebabe.net/ - new 1/2
Pies de Arcilla
>We are
> both against Marxism/ socialism/communism and know that those do not
> have association with Christianity.
Uh huh.
serenebabe
I think, though, that socialists can be any kind of religion they want
to be. That is, it's not Christian and it's not anything else. It's a
set of economic theories, yes?
--
boots
>On 2009-01-11 00:42:12 -0500, Pies de Arcilla <dear...@gmail.com> said:
>
>> On Jan 10, 6:47 pm, Echosyn <non_lo...@copper.net> wrote:
>>> We are
>>> both against Marxism/ socialism/communism and know that those do not
>>> have association with Christianity.
>>
>> Uh huh.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_socialism
>
>I think, though, that socialists can be any kind of religion they want
>to be. That is, it's not Christian and it's not anything else. It's a
>set of economic theories, yes?
Yes, economics is unrelated to religion, except when the hat is
passed.
--
Don't read this crap... oops, too late!
[superstitious heathen grade 8]
Sylvia
<...>
> We hold that the American constitutional government is
> the best form of government ever created by mankind.
<beaming!>
</beaming>
Of course it *was* pretty embarasking when our Founding Fathers got detention
for plagiarizing an ancient culture...
<chortle!>
Yeahbut, after they got caught, then France got in trouble for copyin' off our
FF's paper *and* Britain's.
--
Sylvia
Sylvia
Heather/serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Echosyn <non_...@copper.net> said:
<...>
> > We hold that the American constitutional government is
> > the best form of government ever created by mankind.
>
> I wouldn't go *that* far. But, as it was intended to be originally,
> it's a pretty fan-fucking-tastic form of government.
The Ancient Athenians thought so.
> Part of what makes it great is that we're supposed to entirely reject it
> if/when it fails.
<...>
Amazing. Where, exactly, does the US Constitution state that there's a
circumstance under which "we're supposed to entirely reject" our "pretty
fan-fucking-tastic form of government", Heather? I must have missed the Right
To Switch to Total Anarchy section.
<considering>
Heather, if you justify "entirely reject[ing]" our constitutional system of
government by claiming a duty to "entirely reject" our constitutional system
of government supposedly dictated by our Constitution, then you're *not*
rejecting our constitutional system of government, now are you?
[ <aside> NOTE: "Norman, coordinate!" </aside> ]
And, if you believe that, if an administration is running the country in an
unconstitutional manner, you are "supposed to entirely reject" our
constitutional government, wouldn't that necessitate your staging a coup and
instituting an unconstitutional system of government?
Now, how could it be right to remedy a ruling party that's run afoul of the US
Constitution by throwing out the entire US Constitution? Golly, that's not
very patriotic, now is it, Heather?
> http://www.truepat.org/ is one of my favorite sites/organizations.
> Patriotism is "progressive," not "conservative."
Oh.
--
Sylvia